"An Italian experiment has unveiled evidence that fundamental particles known as neutrinos can travel faster than light." 2011.
Some scientists call them "ghost" particles.
"We’re awash in neutrinos. They’re among the lightest of the two dozen or so known subatomic particles and they come from all directions: from the Big Bang that began the universe, from exploding stars and,
most of all, from the sun.
They come straight ***through the earth*** at nearly the speed of light, all the time, day and night, in enormous numbers.
About 100 trillion neutrinos pass through our bodies every second."
Neutrinos travelling -> speed of light = scalar wave
Neutrinos slowing down to exactly the speed of light = photons
Neutrinos slowing down to below the speed of light = electrons.
"We know that the clocks in rocket ships run at a different rate than those on planet earth because the
speed changes time.
Einstein said that if we travelled *at the speed of light* for 30 years, when we returned we would be
the same age as when we left.
This has been proven mathematically,
although we still have no technology that can actually stop time and space."
At the speed of light - time stops?
Scalar waves/neutrinos traveling faster than the speed of light = time reverses?
At the speed of light (neutrino -> photon therapy?) = time stands still?
Slower than the speed of light (neutrino -> electrons) = time goes forward (aging)?
Could scalar therapy actually do this:
Time-reverse diseased, damaged or aged cells back to an earlier healthy condition, including all the cellular genetics. Normal cells are just reversed to a slightly younger condition.
I think I need to make some more appointments! ;-)
Braking the speed of light barrier = "warp 1" for sci-fi lovers.
God just did it on a much bigger scale!
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Hiker, it may be even stronger this way. Just ask your healer and try for yourself.
The Austrian clinic articles I'm trying to translate here in this thread say they use a 'magic wand', talk about Tesla coils, high frequencies. I don't know exactly which device they use, but they also use glass electrodes.
They suggest to keep it far (I initially thought, just a few milimeters, so a cotton tissue would do it), but after reading another part of their internet site, I realized they were talking about 10 cm! It means, about 3 inches, if my counting is good...
But they see changes in the light that comes from the wand.
10cm is quite a lot for my little Tesla wand! Well, my wand at 10cm does not show any change in the light. But when I get to about 5 cm (1.5 inches), I see the light INSIDE the electrode changing, reacting to my body.
That is what I did. 5cm away. Initially, you think you feel nothing. Well, let it sit there for a while, and you may feel. I know it is doing something because when I use it over my abdomen, I get the same unbelievable noises, liquids moving, my intestine moves and anyone in the same room can SEE and LISTEN to it.
So it does act inside my body at that distance.
If you keep doing it this way, you will get to feel it better, and feel how deep it goes. Doing on the face or on top of the head may be easier to feel.
The Austrian clinic say that this type of treatment (from far) alkalinize the body. The close contact, acidify the body.
dr. K. says that the body needs to be ACID to be able to detox. Being alkaline the whole time is not a good idea, because of that.
But there are many benefits of getting alkaline too. So I think it would be a good idea to treat the body in both ways. One day from far, another day on skin, or something like that.
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Marnie many thanks again.
I'm reading your sites, slowly, as it takes me time to digest the new information.
Then in the 1889 Nikola Tesla (a prolific experimental physicist and inventor of AC) threw a proverbial wrench in the works when he discovered experimental proof for the elusive electric scalar wave.
This seemed to suggest that SW/LW (scalar wave, or longitudinal wave), opposed to TW (transversal wave), could propagate as pure electric waves or as pure magnetic waves.
Tesla also believed these waves carried a hitherto-unknown form of excess energy he referred to as “radiant”.
This intriguing and unexpected result was said to have been verified by Lord Kelvin and others soon after.
------------------------------- Brussels: maybe that type of radiant energy that we feel with Tesla coils / Tesla wand ?? -------------------------------
SW/LW (Scalar waves) in free space however are quite real.
Beside Tesla, empirical work carried out by Electrical Engineers such as Eric Dollard, Konstantin Meyl, Thomas Imlauer, and Jean-Louis Naudin (to name only some) have clearly demonstrated their existence experimentally.
These waves seem able to exceed the speed of light, pass through EM shielding (aka Faraday Cages), ....
....and produce over-unity (more energy out than in) effects.
They seem to propagate in a yet unacknowledged counter-spatial dimension (aka hyper-space, pre-space, false-vacuum, Aether, implicit order, etc.).
----------------------------------- Brussels: wow, this is so interesting. They produce MORE energy OUT that what went IN!!!
Remember my post in the first thread: I had that clear feeling that, while everyone else around me has to take their energy from breathing and eating, I felt I HAD ANOTHER SOURCE OF EXTRA ENERGY: my TESLA WAND!
To me, this is so clear today. And just read other posts, from other people outside lymenet.
Some people just use the wand when they feel tired and need an energy boost!
I also said somewhere else that I felt like LOADING my BATTERIES, the same way I load my MP3 player. I load myself with my Tesla coil!!!
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Continuing, same website above:
Because the concept of an all pervasive, material Ether was discarded by most scientists,...
.... the thought of vortex-like electric and/or magnetic waves existing in free space, without the support of a viscous medium, was thought to be impossible.
However later experiments carried out by Dayton Miller, Paul Sagnac, E.W. Silvertooth, ...
and others have contradicted the findings of Michelson & Morley.
More recently Italian Mathematician-Physicist Daniele Funaro, American Physicist-Systems Theorist Paul LaViolette, and British Physicist Harold Aspden ...
....have all conceived of (and mathematically formulated) models for a free space Ether that is dynamic, fluctuating, self-organizing, and allows for the formation & propagation of SW/LW.
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Brussels: This fact that such waves travel without a physical support is possibly the reason why such waves cannot be shielded. (?)
Not by Faraday cages, not by thick materials... The waves simply cross everything.
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All our technical achievements and knowledge are not enough to explain how the human body and biology in general manage their energetic and informational tasks.
Obviously they (the body) handle this more efficiently than our technology is able to.
When biological systems violate the law of energy conservation, as can be observed at migratory birds which travel enormous distances ...
... without losing weight corresponding to the energy they spend,
... or the fish that continuously swim against the current or
... even in the process of photosynthesis that can’t be reproduced by technical means,
... everything indicates that energy is ABSORBED FROM THE ENVIRONMENT, for example from the pervasive neutrino radiation.
Neither have we understood the biological information technology.
It simply works in a different way than what physics and communications engineering teach us.
Without doubt the action potential of a NERVE CONDUCTOR consists of electric signals which can be measured at the NERVE ENDINGS.
An ELECTRIC current flow does not occur because there is no return conductor.
And it CAN NOT be an electromagnetic wave due to the lack of antennae structures.
(Brussels: he means, I think, that what flows in our NERVES is NOT ELECTRIC, nor ELECTROMAGNETIC!!).
Furthermore it is well-known to vibrate transversally, while the nodes of Ranvier indicate that a longitudinal wave is transmitted here.
(Brussels: his English is a bit bad, but I think he means that what runs INSIDE our nerves is a longitudinal wave, meaning SCALAR wave).
In acoustics the corresponding standing waves are depicted as Kundt’s dust figures.
As the distance between the nodes of a musical instrument generates a certain tone, it can only be an electrical longitudinal wave with the corresponding wave length that is passed through the nerves.
--------------------------------- Brussels: if I understood well, he says that what we carry in our nerves that conduct impulses is not electromagnetic waves (which are transversal waves) but SCALAR WAVES, of the same type present in Tesla coils!!
If it is so, the Austrian clinic is probably very right: they say that these electrodes we are using are transmitting the impulses (in this case, scalar waves) to the organs!
And they speak the same language: I mean, we are giving to the nerves impulses (waves) that are of their same kind: scalar waves!
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NEUTRINO POWER AND THE EXISTENCE OF SCALAR WAVES, by Prof. Meyl.
Prof. Meyl talked about Tesla`s scalar wave transmitter in Colorado Springs, Colorado in 1899.
Tesla transmitted energy 26 miles at velocities greater than light.
Tesla measured the resonance of the Earth at 12 Hz.
The Schumann resonance of the Earth is 7.8 Hz.
Meyl shows how one can calculate the scalar wave of the Earth to be 1.54 times the speed of light.
Meyl presented a model that ties the expansion of the earth to be the result of the earth`s absorption of neutrino energy.
The ramifications of this model are that NEUTRINO ENERGY CAN BE TAPPED.
He took this the next step and postulated that Zero Point Energy is neutrino power - ENERGY FROM THE FIELD; available at ANYTIME, and EVERYWHERE present.
To show the place of neutrinos in conventional science, Meyl noted that the 2002 Nobel Physics prize was in regards to work on neutrinos. (it was won by M. Koshiba and Raymond Davis).
Meyl quoted a 1898 New York Times statement by Tesla that establishes Tesla, the "father of free energy" as also the discoverer of the neutrino.
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Thought I'd post to let you know I'm reading along. Brussels, thank you for posting all this, very interesting.
Marnie, the line for Soarin' was 2 1/2 - 3 hours long the entire day we were there. We couldn't get a fast pass. Next time we go, I'll get the fast pass in advance.
I've been using the wand for about a month now and my gut seems to be doing well (I'll be retested next week) and I have normal energy again. I spent 2 days at Disney World with a 17 year old and got no more tired than she did.
Also, I've been in Florida all month. I have blonde hair, blueish eyes ... I'm careful with the sun, but usually make a mistake and get at least a slight burn at some point. I never use sunscreen, I just time myself and avoid mid-day. Two days at Disney, no sunscreen, no avoidance, and not even my nose or my shoulders got burned. Also, it's 95 degrees here, feels like 109, and didn't have any trouble with that either.
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IceCube is a gigantic ultra-high energy cosmic neutrino detector in Antarctica. These neutrinos have energies between 10-100 times higher than the protons (+) colliding at the Large Hadron Collider, and their origin and nature are largely a mystery. One thing that IceCube can tell us about these neutrinos is their flavor composition.
The 3 types of neutrinos apparently can switch from one form to the other.
12/2014:
In a new paper accepted by the journal Astroparticle Physics, Robert Ehrlich, a recently retired physicist from George Mason University, claims that the neutrino
If neutrinos have mass (albeit a very small mass) and if they are tachyons...
it makes sense. Slower than light speed, at light speed, faster than light speed. Another way of looking at this is future, present, past.
Is the speed of light the "stop" time point, before time reverses at higher speeds?
If you look at the sign/symbol for infinity (the #8 sideways) is the middle - the speed of light/the change direction point?
If you map this out on a "clock" drawing...on the right, east = counter-clockwise = 432 (frequency of light)and on the direct opposite = 8,9,10 - clockwise. From light to darkness to light to...
When talking about light, I always think about this statement:
"There are but multiples of three in all My universe." (Quote from a book titled: The Secret of Light.)
If the Tesla wave is a longitudinal stationary bidirectional wave...2102 PubMed titled abstract =
DNA and cell resonance: magnetic waves enable cell communication.
"DNA generates a longitudinal wave that propagates in the direction of the magnetic field vector....
With this first introduction of the
magnetic scalar wave,
it becomes clear that such a wave is suitable to use genetic code chemically stored in the base pairs of the genes and electrically modulate them, so as to "piggyback" information from the cell nucleus to another cell.
At the receiving end, the reverse process takes place and the transported information is converted back
into a chemical structure.
The necessary energy required to power the chemical process is provided by the magnetic scalar wave itself.
Tesla cars run on direct current batteries. There are FREE (always) charging stations now around the country. (We are fortunate to have a Tesla store in Sarasota. They are amazing cars.)
It wasn't until late in his career that he discovered neutrinos.
Sunlight is the ultimate free power source. We've just made a far greater collector "cloth". It is graphene = a one atom sheet of carbons all linked together.
That should come as no surprise. Think about how a black asphalt driveway "captures" the energy of the sunlight on a hot summer day.
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Wow, what fantastic info being posted here, I'm still reading along as well!
Thank you Brussels and Marnie for the work and research you are putting into this!
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OK, Marnie, let me some time to breathe!
I'm a bit busy these days, and also finally sunny here in Switzerland, so enjoying the weather out.
Salty water burning like fuel??
Do you think our DNAs, that produce scalar waves, are reacting to Tesla coils scalar waves?
I wonder if I am not going to wake up tomorrow a cockroach....
------------------------------------------- SIXGK: I know what you mean by the sunlight and tan. For some reason, my daughter got the same effect.
I think it has to do with absorption of zinc, but it could be other things. One of the KPU symptoms is white skin, China doll kids.
Before summer came, before even sun came, my daughter's skin turned to tan color, her cheek rosy. It was mysterious to me.
But when I saw she was finally ABSORBING zinc, and VIT D3 started testing negative, somehow, I know that the wand was doing something to her.
It changes the way cells work. It either improves nutrition absorption, or gives energy to the cell so it can do whatever it couldn't before (detox, and absorption of nutrients).
How can she finally get D3 from food or from whatever thin sunrays so suddenly, when it was still cold?
How can the color of the skin change so much, so fast?
We take Vit D3 for about 8 years or so. In the last 5 years, it was a religious ritual to us: we took it almost every single day. It always tested good, and we felt better with it.
But her skin was not tan, was still white.
And hubby is white skinned, green eyes. His skin is also pretty tan too!!! No sunscreen either. And he rarely uses the wand on his face. He uses basically only on his legs (due to eczema).
I guess, no matter where you use the wand, it will cross anything anyway...
It is an amazing thing, to see both skin colors change so much.
As for the extra energy, enjoy it!! I know exactly what you mean!!
One thing I found out: it brings nothing to overdo. It seems, like a battery, we have a point that we get full of the Tesla wand (probably of scalar waves or neutrino radiation?).
Once you reach the point you get full, you do not get anything if you overload. Nothing positive comes out from overloading. It even feels bad.
At the same time, if you are down with that 'neutrino' energy, you can tap into the wand much longer than 10 minutes. Really like charging a battery!! That is just my experience, not based on what other people recommend (they recommend maximum 10 min a day).
I did up to 30 min, but then avoided it the next day(s). When I craved my wand, I did that!!
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Nikola Tesla is the father of the modern age. His inventions of radio, remote controlled devices, alternating current, and induction motors (among many others), paved the way for modern civilization.
Yet other of his inventions barely saw the light of day, despite their tremendous potential.
Such a severely under utilized technology is his wireless energy transmission techniques.
By producing scalar (longitudinal) waves, he could achieve superluminal (faster than light) communication, send signals through any material including Faraday cages, ...
... and wirelessly beam power to receivers. Researchers like Steve Jackson provide hope that by open sourcing Tesla's work, scalar wave transmission can proliferate and positively benefit the world.
-------- SCALAR WAVE PROPERTIES
You might be wondering what in the world is a scalar wave! It's actually pretty simple.
Unlike a transverse wave (like an ordinary radio or light wave) a scalar wave's amplitude does not fluctuate up and down.
Instead, try to visualize it more like a vibration of electric potential expanding and contracting in the direction of propagation.
Scalar waves are also often called "Tesla Waves" or "Longitudinal Waves."
All of these terms refer to the same type of wave which oscillates in the direction of propagation instead of perpendicular to the direction of movement.
These waves have many unique properties which have been tested and confirmed repeatedly.
1) They are capable of PENETRATING ANY SOLID OBJECT including Faraday Cages.
You can put a transmitter in a box of thick metal and a receiver outside of the box will receive the scalar wave frequency you are pulsing.
The potential here is for a transmitter that can penetrate any obstacle or perhaps communicate directly through the Earth from one side of the globe to the other.
2) They are capable of superluminal travel.
These waves are claimed NOT to be electromagnetic, but composed of PURE POTENTIAL ENERGY.
Due to this, the speed of light limit does not apply to them. T
he propagation speed of a scalar wave has been measured as FASTER than the SPEED OF LIGHT and thought by some researchers to be potentially of infinite velocity.
3) They are capable of TRANSMITTING POWER.
It can then be put to use powering motors, lights, vehicles, etc.
4) A scalar transmitter can wirelessly send power to a receiver THROUGH ANY OBSTACLE.
...
5) During the process of transmission and reception they can MAGNIFY POWER.
You can input a certain quantity of power into a scalar wave transmitter and yet the receiver can receive SEVERAL TIMES THE POWER.
6) Transmitters and receivers can communicate.
7) A conventional transverse wave transmitter cannot sense if a receiver has "tuned in."
However, in a scalar system the transmitter and receiver interact because they are in a STATE OF RESONANCE.
As you can see Scalar Waves hold many potential applications for communication, energy, and other applications.
To mimic a commercial for a popular brand of cell phone, "Scalar Waves do what Transverse waves don't."
They are fast, penetrating, connected, and can broadcast magnified power. These waves are begging to be utilized!
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I found this video of 1 hour, where Prof. Meyl speaks (in German) about MEDIA CENSORSHIP IN SCIENCE!
He speaks in the Anti Censorship Coalition 2013. See how many people in the conference!
So, not only in the medical field, also in pure science, there is a strong censorship.
He said that the reason for that is very easy to understand: science is ruled by financial interests, it is not free. (min 3)
At the time of Tesla, no one was willing to pay him to develop a free-energy project: who would profit financially from it?
At 6.53 he said, as a Prof of energy techniques, he can speak about inventions of Nikola Tesla (like assyncro-motor), but he was not allowed to mention the inventor by his name!!
He received a written letter by the rector saying he was not allowed to talk about the inventor, only of his inventions!
That goes against Article 5, German law, that says that research and science shall be free.
So the censorship on Tesla is still FULLY ACTIVE still today, in the academic world.
He finds it hard to get financial support to his scalar energy research. The industry (at 11.20) is not interested at all. Politicians neither.
12.3: he said that there was a clear BLOCKADE of research on the biological effects of EMFs (ex, from handy phones), so that NO research is allowed to go on that sense!
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Scalar Waves and Information technology in the Medical field 2015 conference from Prof. Meyl.
7.20 He speaks about how he proposes a model for cell communication. He sent that model to a nobel prize winner (he won the prize for researching a virus).
10.20. Experiments to fix broken bones, and cancer cells (done in Heidelberg in 2012).
11.13. Cancer cells talk to each other, through scalar waves. Like cell phone talk. Healthy cells also talk to each other. But cancer cells cannot talk to healthy cells, and that is why they degenerate.
12.08. They killed the cancer cells in one container in an experiment. Next day, the other cancer cells in the other container were dead too (as though they received the communication about death from the other container) (!)
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And I'm sure this is true and already in use here and there through homeopathy and photon treatment, as that is exactly how I made my borrelia dormant... with photon information ONLY.) ------------
12.15. pharma industry does not interest on this research, as it brings them no money.
Before, prof. Meyl speaks about the possibilites of killing cancer cells just by transmitting messages to the cells, from outside the body of the patient. But research has to be done. No money, no research....
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I've always tanned well for a blonde, but it's unusual for me to not at least get a little red on my nose, chest and shoulders. It does seem to offer some protection.
I have read previously that if we detoxed well and had proper nutrients to detox, we wouldn't burn because the body could handle the oxidizing. That makes some sense, too, especially in my case where I did tan, but usually after burning a little.
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I have a friend who had a hairline fracture in her hand that would not heal. After many months they were talking about what kind of treatment to do and I suggested using my Bionic 880. She used it every day for about 20 minutes and after a few weeks it was healed.
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Yes, it's amazing, isn't it? Now we are using again the PE1 as all my Tesla wands are borrowed...
Infrared is also wonderful, in those 880nm frequencies.
Wait a bit longer, we'll try to combine the two!
I wonder what is the relation between the two, as both treatments seem to do about the same things.
I was reading about prof. Meyl and how cells communicate with such scalar waves. I guess that infrared is not scalar, but normal transversal waves.
If cells communicate through scalar waves, and not EM waves (non transversal), how could my infrared transmit the message of the borrelia nosodes?
Good points on detox and oxidation. We also didn't get red, despite being under strong midday sun. Hubby got red though, a bit, but not as usual (he is the type : sun bath = red skin than peeling off).
No peeling off, so far. He's now horse riding EVERY SINGLE DAY, mornings and afternoons, intensive training in England. He had a TENDINITIS attack Sunday, before his classes began.
Tesla wand + magnesium + one pain killer on Sunday = that is all he did. He didn't miss one single class, so far. He said his tenditinis is practically gone.
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That's great! Not getting sunburned in England .... he must be really pale if that's a worry, lol. Just kidding!
I think a big part of the photon treatment was the vibrations. On the Bionic I used the 11.77 hz, and one of the articles said 12 hz was the earth's vibration. Dr. W felt being close to the earth vibration was important.
That's why a walk on the beach or other grounding helps so much.
Also, my understanding was the nosodes and the infrared did two different things. The nosodes transmitted their own energy while the photons separately did its work. Dr. W didn't want us handling the nosodes AT ALL if we weren't using the Bionic because he felt the nosodes were dangerous without it.
I had an acquaintance with Lyme come to my house. He had been to Germany but wasn't sure how to follow up treatment and stopped so he got worse. A year later and he didn't even have nosodes. I had extra, and I set them down in front of his wife and father who had brough him to my house (he lives 4 hours away).
He leaned forward and picked them up and immediately felt bad, so set them back down.
It seems that the photons are light and are powerful. I think of the scalar as more like electricity ... static ... the way it comes to the end of the tube when you touch it like static in the winter.
All this makes me realize there is so much more to sun exposure than just vitamin D.
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I think, what the doctors of the Zeileis Institute are using, is something like shown in this website above.
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Dr. Meyl just WROTE to me!!!
He answered my email. I'll let you know the content if I understand it better.
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I'm waiting for his second reply. First one, he says that photon from infrared also emit scalar waves as photons behave both like matter (particle) and wave (if I understood well).
That is how infrared photons can be used as a carrier of information.
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Interesting. I'm finding that I get benefit from both. Maybe it's the different ways I use them, but I seem to get different benefits from each.
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You are right Six. They are very different... At least, the effects. I can't say one is better or worse.
I guess, like other treatments, the more you get things that do good to you, the best.
I see them as complementary. Like you need minerals, but also proteins, and also carbs. You can't say, one is better. At a moment, one is better, the other less good. Next moment, it's the opposite.
I'm fighting a bladder / kidney infection. Too hot here, forgot drinking enough water.... Still I'm detoxing due to the wand, my urine was darker before this all started.
Still didn't drink enough, and yesterday my kidneys were in pain, I got fever, then I felt the bladder infection in the evening.
It's been years without bladder infection. I usually take abx on these occasions (bactrim or so), but just because I feel too bad to think of any protocol on my own.... Last time it happened during vacations, I had no choice.
Well, I tested Sanum nosodes, nothing came positive. Then tested MMS, came positive.
Well, I am on 15 drops MMS.
Yesterday I had fever!! I was freezing despite the heat wave here in Europe.
Well, I feel better after 2 doses of MMS. I mean, total 30 drops in less than 12 hours. That is massive (for me, that used to react with 1/2 drop MMS during lyme), but I feel next to nothing.
Which is good! It means, I have barely any infection in other places!! I mean 30 drops in the last 12 hours...
Now, about 18 hours since I started MMS + 1 hour or Tesla wand for the kidney /bladder pain + 30 min of infrared just to try to relax... I feel I'm coming back.
I'm so glad I do not have to rush down the doctor to get bactrim. First, it destroys my gut, makes me in bad mood. MMS feels like baby tea... I wonder why, I used to hate it too as it made me so sick.
Guys, the wand! I'm not herxing from anything, so far. Nothing, no increased pain, I just feel relaxed (yesterday, I got again anxiety. I know feels exactly like with active lyme...)
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A few years ago I got a kidney infection when I was doing a lot of detoxing and advanced Pilates. I always blamed it on getting rid of toxins too quickly.
Then with the wand, I felt like I did a day or two before my kidney infection. I got really dehydrated despite drinking a lot of fluids.
I got some Gatorade (the kind without bromine) and drank it for 2 days, then switched to coconut water after that. I find when I'm battling dehydration or when it's really hot, I need something with sugar in it or I don't stay hydrated. Water is not enough.
I kept hydrating, then waited until I felt better before I used the wand again.
It is possible to go too quickly and end up overwhelming the detox organs. I'm doing fine now. Still drinking a lot.
I hope you continue to feel better!!
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MMS can almost always knock a kidney and bladder infection out. Its also good for stress incontinence... which tells me that stress incontinence is likely caused by a low level infection.
MMS has also reversed the need to go onto dialysis for some folks.
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Carmen, thank you for the information. I was doubting MMS could hit this alone, but it is doing its job well. I find it amazing that I can take so many drops at once, without ANY side effects!!??
It works less fast than abx (like Bactrim), but it is clearly working.! Thanks for saying that.
I think next time I go on vacations, I will pack MMS and the wand then!!! -------------------
Six, thanks for the tip on sugar in water. I am craving a bit of sugar drinks (so I'm adding two teaspoons of sugar in one liter of cold tea).
So, you also had the infection! I never had kidney infection in my life, only bladder.
This time, I had real pain on my kidneys & bladder. Now all the pain is gone, with the MMS. I still have the infection though, but much smaller.
I never took MMS for such infections. It is slower than abx, but my tummy is reacting well, energy is back, I went swimming last 2 days in the lake.
I always got darker urine with the wand since start. It's been more than 4 months.
I guess hot weather and little drinking + dark urine due to wand = kidney infection. I'll be more careful now, certainly.
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What is also happening to me is a bit gross, but for women with trouble in the uterus / ovary, I think I have to say that...
As I said, my body went in detox mode after the wand, like it never did before. Never did I detox well through urine or through liver (stools). Liver was my worst organ according to many people I saw.
With the wand, things are much different: no more liver pain, and detoxing through urine. And now, I'm detoxing through my periods!!! I am truly detoxing!
I remember during lyme, I asked the naturopath about that, and she told me: when the body is too toxic, it will try to detox in any way: through sweat, through stools, through urine, through mucus, through menstrual blood, through vaginal discharges, through skin whatever it finds to put toxins out.
Well, I don't feel too toxic like during lyme or active candidiosis, but I am detoxing badly through bleeding.
It happened lightly before, during periods (smell was stronger). but, I didn't think it was due to detoxing.
But now, it's amazing what's coming out. It feels like I opened a little tap, and I'm tossing the garbage out.
My energy and mood are good, appetite too. I had many fibroids in the uterus. Long ago, I had policystic ovaries too (somehow healed with reflex massage, but left scars).
I guess many women suffer from uterus problems, as most women I know take the uterus off later in life.
Well, I am hoping the toxins come out from my uterus and that it slowly heals.
I had no real symptoms, really, only during pregnancy (as the fibroids got HUGE, and soooo painful, that is why I couldn't deliver my baby naturally, but only through C-section).
Now that I am doing more wand on my bladder, well, I guess I'm treating both uterus and bladder.... And I swear, it is a bit scary. Any normal person would rush to the doctor (and the doctor would certainly think there is something wrong, I'm certain).
I keep testing myself, and I feel good (I worked the whole day today, physically, no stop, really, I'm still fine now).
I think this is just one more trick the wand is playing on me. It tests: 'detoxing my uterus'.
I ask about ovaries: no. Infection: no. Fibroids being dissolved: no. Toxins coming out: yes.
Just writing that for anyone who may have the unpleasant experience, without knowing what it is. I wonder if other women are having the same issues.
The smell looks like infection, but I feel just nothing like infection. All ART tests I do, I'm fine there.
Anyway. I'm glad the MMS may do its job till the end, and that it causes me zero side effects, so far. When I ask, where it is acting in my body: I get 3 places: bladder, kidneys and small intestine.
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Brussels, I don't know that it got infected this time, I had a kidney infection a few years ago (the only one I had ever had) and started to have symptoms from the wand.
Back when I had the infection, I had pretty severe dehydration, so they pushed fluids in an IV. I had an IV for four days and pushed two of those days. That was why I upped the fluids when I started the symptoms. I figured I needed to flush it out.
Still going well with me. I use it 3-4 times per week.
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Great Six. It can be a bit addictive, I find. I catch myself enjoying my wand session so much that I can't turn it off. I'm doing MUCH more than 10 minutes a day, but not every day, and with middle intensity (it never buzzes too much).
I thought you had the kidney infection now. So it means, you felt some kidney symptoms with the wand? Like kidneys achy? Dark urine?
I have been having achy kidneys since I started the wand, but I can usually control that with binders... This time, it didn't work. Infection is under control with MMS. I am going swimming every day, so far, so good (energy, no more fever, barely any pain).
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No, the kidney infection 3 years ago is when my gut got infected with c diff that I've had ever since then. I have no idea how I could have it for this long, but that is why my gut is so unbalanced.
I started feeling the severe dehydration symptoms with the wand that were my first symptoms when I had the kidney infection 3 yrs ago. And other symptoms that I can't really put into words .... like a fog, but not like Lyme fog, fatigue, and light headedness. Intolerance to noise, which was a huge kidney infection symptom for me and confusion. I know it sounds like any infection, but it was specifically how I felt when I ended up in the hospital for 4 days with infected kidneys. It was a distinct feeling that I can't use words to describe.
Rehydrating got me to avoid infection this time. It took a couple weeks to flush them out of all the toxins.
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OK, so people out there using the wand: if your urine gets too dark, lower the time of treatment and drink tons of water, electrolytes!!!!
thanks for saying that, Six. I notice that my mouth gets dry after using the wand. And that my urine turned darker after using it too. I didn't change much my drinking habit, but now I'm drinking like hell. Really a lot, like I never did before in my whole life.
Not only because I know it is good, and because it is very very hot. But because now I realize I do not feel bad after cold water. I'm drinking cold water for the first time in my life! I always refused cold water, as it cooled my body.
I remember being 7 years old and refusing to drink cold water and sodas. I refused them, literally, and started cooking my own teas very early in life. Even in tropical Brazil!!
Now I do not feel washed out with so much water, like before. I guess that my cells had no minerals in, and refused to let me drink. I felt bad drinking liquids, and rather avoided drinking my whole life.
Now that I think I am getting nourishment in my cells, I feel really great drinking, sweating. I'm doing cold teas every single day, and stopped drinking warm drinks for the moment.
I can't remember one single week in my life that I didn't drink hot teas (recently coffee too). That is a first, ever.
Dr. K. says that drinking a lot of water is good for some people, but for others, you simply dump all your minerals off if you drink more than what you need.
he's really not for that drinking water in gallons theory for everyone.
I went swimming again in the lake, my skin got soft. I can see that not all my bad skin from my feet have gone out (as some parts got too white, like excessively white). It means, I haven't yet peeled off everything there.
OMG, how can someone peel off so much?
When I take shower and rub my body with my hands, I feel I'm peeling off MUCH more than I EVER did. I'm talking about whole body!
Has anyone getting that sort of peeling off effect? The skin that comes, despite so much water, showers, soaps, is still shining, oily mostly.
I'm not peeling off sun tan, as I can notice it happening on my chest, breasts, abdomen, more than on my back (that is really sun tanned now).
I was just wondering, what a body does when it gets what it needs (I do feel these electrons I'm getting as nutrition)!!!!
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Above my knees I had thicker skin that was rough. It seems to be softening and thinning out to a more normal level.
I'm always careful to drink enough or I get UTIs. When I was in FL I was drinking more because it's hot, but I don't think Ohio has realized it's summer yet.
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The kidney and bladder infection is much better, but MMS is not knocking it totally off.
Today, first time, it didn't test anymore. I took it anyway, and in fact, it didn't make any effect anymore (i feel a bit of pain during urination). No more kidney pains like before, no more fever, but I know the infection is here due to darker urine despite drinking gallons, and because of pain.
I re-tested my boxes of medicine, as I am stubborn and want to avoid abx. There were 2 products testing, one Polysan D (kind of magic Sanum treatment for certain conditions), and Ledum C30 (a killer, in homeopathic dilution).
I asked: is this enough? No. Well, I added the wand, 6 minutes on the bladder, plus about 6 minutes on the kidneys.
Now I ask: Infection? And I come with a 'no', which means, for me, that I am hitting the infection...
The wand, these days, makes me TOTALLY sleepy, as I do it before bedtime. I am fighting to keep my eyes open. It is like taking an injection of sleeping pills.
In the beginning, this wand could even make me anxious. Go figure....
Let's see if I can knock the infection down till the end with Ledum and the wand...
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Perhaps the wand is contributing to the problem. Perhaps take a break from it. The energy healer told me the wand helps my organs but too much irritates them.
Perhaps the same thing is happening to you. She told me to wait several weeks before using it again.
When I tested myself energetically I kept getting a "yes" for the wand to be used, but in reality I should have taken a break from it. Sometimes when something has worked so well, the emotions make the energy testing not valid.
Just a thought.
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I guess I'm still not ready to let it go... It's about the only thing that is helping me to keep most infections dormant.
I did 3 pauses with it (because I didn't have the wand with me). After day 10, my candida came back slowly, fatigue again...
When I stopped for 7 days, it was still fine, but kind of declining in energy... Again, I felt like my body craved those electrons.
It feels for me almost like food. I crave it, like I feel hungry.
I'm afraid of massive jawbone infections coming back, plus skin and GI candida, and then my life goes in hell again.
So, really, I'm not ready to let it go.
I do think though, like with FASTING, the body decides to do things that it couldn't do without treatment (wand or fasting). It is amazing how much detox comes only with fasting. Same with the wand, a sort of overboosting of detox reactions.
Not always fun... Anyway, I decided to test my infection nosode box, and found out what I have. It is cryptococcus neoformans, an opportunistic fungal infection.
I had that before, but I don't think it was in my bladder / kidney.
It is a very dangerous infection. Fatal if untreated.
It is either being cleaned up from my system (as it is not the first time I have it, as I remember the name clearly), through 'peeling the layers'... Or something else.
Well, I'll be using my PE1 and nosodes now. And order the higher dilutions.
Here a link for it causing kidney and bladder infection.
there is an antibiotic for it (fluconazole), in case my treatments fail...
In any case, MMS can't fight it completely. Fungi and candida are not very much cleared by MMS, according to my own experiences of 30 years with candida species.... It is rather good for viruses and some bacteria, in my opinion.
But it did help reduce symptoms fast, but not eradicate the infection till the end.
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Wow, Brussels, I hope that you will knock down that fungi soon. Do you think that it appeared being part peeling the onion thing? It looks like it since you say you’ve had it before.
I had similar experience as well. Few weeks after I had started the wand, I don’t test “infection” anymore. I mean I have symptoms and react on the wand strongly, but I can tolerate it much better than in the beginning. But when I ask “Infection” ? I get “No”. It happened for the first time since my Lyme escapade. My first thought was it is a good sign that infection stopped testing, but since I still have symptoms it makes it kind of little hard, how do you test it?
Last week I had old symptoms coming back, that I had 2 years ago and that went away when I started MMS. I felt feverish, tired, back muscle pain, sinuses pain. I got some round spots on my skin and the weirdest one, my nails on the fingers and toes got inflamed, painful and got dissociated in some places. So I was thinking parasites/fungi? It still doesn’t test as infection, that’s why it is hard to tell. I continue to take MMs and do the wand 2 times per week.
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Hey Anuta!! Watch out for detox reactions. This wand was one of the strongest treatments that caused me detox.
The strange thing is that, while the wand reinforces and cleans organs (liver, kidneys, gut), you feel parallel less toxic. Kind of opposite of what I 'm saying, but what I mean is that the WAY I felt toxic before the wand and AFTER IT, is VERY DIFFERENT.
It's like I have a new body. Before the wand, it was VERY EASY to know I was toxic. After the wand, it is VERY HARD for me to recognize I'm toxic. So what I do, I take binders even when they do not test.
If I feel better, it means I was toxic.
I had many skin reactions with it, for the whole time (even now) I've been using the wand. It is a full detox through the skin.
The oil that comes, my smell, the stinking urine, then funny points that appear specially on lymph nodes (like pimples), they appear on and on, even for my daughter.
I am giving DE to my daughter, and I'm taking chlorella more often than it tests. I feel like I'm new in detox, just because my body reacts differently to toxins.
The tests get harder, somehow, I do not know why. I would just increase binders and see how you react. Good luck!
My kidney infection is practically gone, with photon + nosodes. It tests coming from my cheekbone (reactivation? Peeling the onion?) and my gut. Whatever, I think I nailed it. The wand didn't help though, even though it helped with so many other jaw infections.!
Hope your nails get better. So crazy reactions we get....
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