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GretaM
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Anyone have kidney disease develop as part of disease progression?

In the last month I have went from awesome kidney function to CKD 3.

I am covered in bruises, literally peppered with them, have strong fatigue (worse than usual) and back pain in the kidney area.

My bloodwork reflects the CKD 3.

Any advice much appreciated. Thank you,
Greta

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Carol in PA
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Greta,
Is your urine foamy?
This indicates that the kidneys are filtering out too much protein, which means they are inflamed.


Do you have a SOTA Magnetic Pulser?
Using PEMF on the kidneys should reduce the inflammation.

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Maybe you could check the side effects of your drugs?

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Yes, do check ALL your medications. And skin products, too.

Have your hands been in any chemical solutions lately? Even typical household cleaners or even typical kitchen soap?


Might IBUPROFEN be a consideration?

Just in case you may have taken or are taking ibuprofen, that is best avoided. It's in many OTC products (and may be in some skin products used for joint pain, too).

Ibuprofen constricts blood flow. This constriction of blood vessels can really damage kidneys and can also pose problems not just for kidneys but for the whole body.

Those with lyme already have major considerations regarding liver & kidney function due to the toxicity of borellia.

http://kidney.niddk.nih.gov/kudiseases/pubs/analgesicnephropathy/

National Kidney & Urulogic Diseases Information Clearinghouse (NKUDIC)

Analgesic Nephropathy (Painkillers and the Kidneys)

Excerpts:

. . . Analgesic use has been associated with two different forms of kidney damage: acute renal failure and a type of chronic kidney disease called analgesic nephropathy. . . .

. . . Some patient case reports have attributed incidents of sudden-onset acute kidney failure to the use of over-the-counter painkillers, including aspirin, ibuprofen, and naproxen sodium. . . .

. . . A second form of kidney damage, called analgesic nephropathy, can result from taking painkillers every day for several years. . . . .

. . . Ibuprofen may also increase the risk of chronic kidney damage, . . .


http://www.nytimes.com/1990/04/16/us/kidney-peril-found-in-the-pain-reliever-ibuprofen.html

Kidney Peril Found in the Pain Reliever Ibuprofen

(AP) April 16, 1990 - The New York Times

Excerpts:

The popular pain reliever ibuprofen can cause kidney failure in people with mild kidney disease, according to a new study.

A three-year study on the drug was reported today in the journal Annals of Internal Medicine. . . .

. . . gave participants above-normal doses of 800 milligrams of ibuprofen three times a day - the equivalent of 12 ibuprofen tablets - for up to 11 days.

After eight days, three women developed kidney failure, which reversed when ibuprofen was discontinued. The remaining nine women, who received ibuprofen for 11 days, showed changes in kidney function but did not develop kidney failure.

After recovering, the three women were given 400 milligrams of ibuprofen three times a day, equivalent to normal doses of the drug.

Two of the three again developed kidney failure but recovered when the ibuprofen was stopped.

Ibuprofen relieves pain by interfering with the body's production of prostaglandin, a substance involved in inflammation. But at the same time, the drug constricts blood flow.

Normally, the change poses little risk if used for a short period.

But for those whose blood flow to the kidneys is already reduced by kidney, heart or liver damage, flu, or aging, ibuprofen could lead to acute kidney failure. . . .
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I think you have a naturopathic doctor, so be sure to talk to them. While I'm sure they will have a fuller picture of what can be done to help, this is just one avenue to consider in your conversation with them.

I know someone with severe kidney damage who has seen consistent and wonderful improvement in her test scores with this.

http://www.itmonline.org/arts/salviarenal.htm

THE USE OF SALVIA (miltiorrhiza) FOR PATIENTS WITH RENAL FAILURE

by Subhuti Dharmananda, Ph.D.


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/3/30956?#000000

SALVIA miltiorrhiza LINKS
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Not sure if the application of this would suit your needs at this point in time but this is another good question to consider - and talk about with a ND (preferably a LL ND)

CHANCA PIEDRA - Phyllanthus nirurii

also called Stonebreaker or Stone Breaker

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GretaM
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Thanks so much Carol, Lymetoo and Keebler.

I don't have a Sota. I have a tesla arriving shortly.

I checked all my meds and none were indicated as being nephrotoxic.
But to be cautious, my doc pulled me off all my antibiotics.

Normally I take a lot of NSAIDS but I have not had the head pressure for two weeks so have not taken any.

I was wondering about that chance piedra.

I am worried to try anything new until the repeat bloodwork and the ultrasound ? come back.

I was exposed to a pesticide at work about a week before the bloodowork. Does anyone know if pesticides can cause kidney failure via inhalation? (not sure which one it was, I was standing beside the field and the farmer drove by with his tractor spraying something. It was either a pesticide or a herbicide. I got out of there as soon as possible.

Also I have been reading babesia causes kidney failure sometimes, which is what I was treating at the time of this reduced function.

Keebler that link is very promising I am bookmarking it.

Thank you for you support you guys. This is very scary for me.

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Q: "exposed to a pesticide at work about a week before the bloodowork. Does anyone know if pesticides can cause kidney failure via inhalation? "

Yes. Kidney disease is a sadly common occurrence for farm workers - with certain KINDS of chemicals.

First, as you were "standing beside the field and the farmer drove by with his tractor spraying something."

it seems that you might live right there or frequent the place for some reason (why else do you hang out beside a field?) so you may have long-term exposure

EDIT: Oh, you said " at work" so, then is this a usual thing?


You have the advantage of knowing where, you might contact the farm and inquire as to what they were spraying. First, see if they have a website to clue you into their practices. Could be safe practices, we hope.

Find out what that was first. But take care in how you approach the topic and the people.

Still, never good to stand by when you see a sprayer coming if you can hop on your horse and gallop into the sunset.
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Thinking again how you were exposed to spraying at work, you need to contact OSHA for advice on this.
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What is your creatinine level? What are the results of your 24-hr urine?
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Any doc who suspected kidney disease would have have ordered a 24-hr urine test. And he/she would have ordered routine bloodwork, which includes creatinine and BUN.
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Hello <<<<< Greta'Pac-Sis' >>>>>,

Sorry to hear of the kidney problems, and Keebler is definitely correct. Many of the chemicals sprayed in farm fields, grassy lots,and even golf courses could cause problems for we humans,and often animals too.

My TxCoord love, has herbicide exposure related Diabetes and Stage III Kidney disease.His exposure occurred while he was serving in the military. His DX was thru lab tests as well as clinical diagnoses.

Hopefully as Beaches was asking about, you can get results of at least most of your tests. It was good that the Doctor has taken you off most meds for a time.

TxC' has to take one med' that isn't good for kidneys, no choice w/o the anti-inflammatory, he is literally bed ridden w/in 48 hrs [severe systemic arthritis]. So they test his blood frequently, and do kidney scans too.

Greta' hang in there and don't let this discourage you. I also think that some of the co-infections as well as the LD itself are extra hard on our organs.

We will be keeping you in prayer, for answers to help ease the kidneys. Perhaps some of he herbs mentioned may be of help. I will be checking on some too, if it will help us that would be great!!!

Jus' Silverwolfi here

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Greta. Good to hear from you but so sorry about this ne probem. It does sound scarey. You are getting good new info.

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I'm taking herbs for a kidney cleanse and they are from "The Liver and Gallbladder Miracle Cleanse" by Andreas Moritz. I have some bleeding in my urinary tract. I did a 6-week cleanse using these herbs and it did help a lot but symptoms have returned so I'm giving it another try.

The herbs are: 1 ounce each of marjoram, cat's claw, and comfrey root as well as 2 ounces each of fennel seed, chicory herb, uva ursi, hydrangea root, gravel root, marshmallow root, and golden rod herb. Mix them all together, soak 3 tablespoons in 2 cups of water overnight. The following morning, bring to a boil, strain, and drink a few sips in 6 to 8 portions throughout the day.

I went to a women's clinic where my urine was checked as well as vagina. Nothing was found amiss but I had been on the herbs and symptoms were there but certainly attenuated. Anyway, so I'm my own doctor now. D-mannose was helpful as well.

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Lymenotlite, bleeding from your urinary tract is not normal! Please see a nephrologist and get testing done to determibe the cause of this.
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