I'm trying to figure something out. Any help greatly appreciated.
My main Lyme / Bartonella / Babesia symptoms are pain, notably in my feet. So I haven't been walking/running very much. I have never had any CNS symptoms. I started exercising more around December of last year and was able to slowly work up to a good amount of time on the elliptical and some strength training. I generally felt good and energized after.
Since April of this year, instead of feeling good and energized after exercising, I would feel very fatigued and lethargic for the rest of the day. Aerobic exercise seems to be easier, but strength training is very tiring. Also, whenever I've gone from sitting to standing, I'll feel lightheaded and get a bloodrush to my head.
I've been taking electrolytes (Super Silica and Citramins), which has been helping reduce the lightheadedness when standing. However, even after adding D-Ribose and Emergen-C, I still get really fatigued after even a little exercise, particularly strength training.
My mineral levels are borderline low according to a Spectracell test last year (uses RBC), and an EXA test this year (uses a tissue sample).
One member noted that it could be a progression of my Babesia? Which may be possible, since I switched from Cryptolepis to Nutramedix products during that time period.
One other thing I can think of that changed is that I switched some sources for Japanese Knotweed, Houttuynia, Cordyceps, and Cat's Claw in early April. I had been taking Cat's Claw and Houttuynia as tinctures from Nutramedix, and the Japanese Knotweed and Cordyceps were a different brand.
Most of the newer sources of herbs had a Prop 65 warning on them, though also they claimed that they had been independently tested for contaminants by a third party. (Not sure which testing facility is correct, in this case.)
It could be that the newer herbs were ineffective, and my infection progressed rapidly? Or maybe the newer herbs had contaminants like lead, which are giving me the fatigue? Not sure.
I've had Lyme & co-infections for 4 1/2 years and never had fatigue after exercising. In fact, it generally reduced my pain symptoms.
A few other changes were that I moved in January to an old house with possible lead issues.
Also changed some supplements between January and April. I.e. I did about 2 months of DMSA chelating, I stopped taking nystatin, calcium, methyl b12, folapro, and SLF forte, and reduced activated charcoal and other binders.
Though I've since added methyl b12 and folapro and it hasn't made a difference. So many factors could be responsible.. I don't know.
Any help appreciated, thanks!
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In the Dr. B guidelines he says not to do cardio when any level of fatigue is present. The idea is that it drains the adrenal glands and makes you more tired.
Try a lighter level of strength training for a longer period of time. I do Pilates on the apparatus with springs for resistance. Some prefer weights. Find something you like that is not cardio.
Don't add cardio until fatigue is no longer a problem for you.
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- Qi Gong or Tai Chi might be good. Are you getting enough food? Resting enough with daily naps, too? -
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I think I read in Dr. H's book that the Nutramedix products don't touch babesia in his experience.
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The supplement BCAA (Branch Chain Amino Acids) came to my mind reading your post.
Helps with muscle fatigue. Look it up. I exercise daily and take one fairly regularly.
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Six - I don't have fatigue unless I'm doing strength training stuff though. Never with cardio or any other time.
Surprise - cool thanks. I've also heard about atp fuel and pqq, will ask my doc about them soon.
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Kara - I have a similar issue, except strength training (supposedly good for us) puts me in intense pain. I wish I could say I've figured out something that helps, but I haven't yet. BCAA's helped me a little.
Something you could ask the doc about is DHEA. It's a hormone, so you have to be cautious. A doc told me to take a small amount and it gave me good energy for exercise, but the intense pain never went away, so I discontinued it after 6 months.
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Six - I don't have fatigue unless I'm doing strength training stuff though. Never with cardio or any other time.
Still, that's the exercise recommended. I found when I did Pilates (moderate strength training using springs), it mobilized sludge (toxins? bacteria?) and made me feel tired afterward for a day or two. I believe this is a big part of the reason strength training is recommended.
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I use BCAA and Rainbow Light Protein Energizer and NT Factor Energy but am not a doctor 😀
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