gigimac
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I am having bad tooth pain. I have an appointment tomorrow. I am guessing I have an abscess or infected tooth. I have not taken antibiotics in months and don't plan to. I have recently gone through a terrible personal tragedy and can not and will not endure herxing right now. Unless, of course, my life were in jeopardy.
An extraction or abscess can be dealt with without antibiotics, right?
Also, any tips before I see the dentist? I have been terrified of seeing the dentist for years now. I am only going because the pain has become more than I can deal with.
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Keebler
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- I can't fully answer the Rx questions yet do urge you to take whatever antibiotic the dentist recommends -- and also liver support so that it won't clobber you.
It may be that antibiotics won't be necessary. But if so:
The antibiotics would be on board before you go so they are well into your system.
You do not want any infection to get "loose" into your blood stream and go to heart or brain. This would be potentially life threatening &/or could cause serious debility. Seriously. Take the antibiotics if offered -- but back up with support.
A good ND would be able to tell you if a certain herbal might work instead such as allicin or olive leaf extract. But - various herbs can change the thickness of the blood so for this, it's best to have expert guidance as to what would work in all ways.
But, there could be some nerve issue and maybe not infection.
Ask for NO EPI in the numbing shot. see next post.
Have adrenal support on board and plan to aggressively rest before and after (for some time). Have good healthy foods on hand or a friend / family member who will help you with all this.
A good time for some deep colored veggie juices and Quinoa FLAKES that can be made with just a little hot water.
As for being "terrified" be up front with them about that (and then find a softer term that might still fit for your own brain -- as the brain will lock onto words and "hear" those as orders, so to speak),
maybe call ahead and ask if they might have some kind of hypnosis training or calming visualization sort of conversation.
Also start now REFRAMING how you expect this to go, emotion wise. Go to your "zen" place, do whatever calming kinds of breathing you can, keeping rhythm,
call ahead about what kind of background music they have and if you might take your own CD to put into their machine . . . or a personal mp3 player and ear phones.
Do you have someone to drive you? Hope so and I hope they are balanced with humor and compassion.
My guess is that some of the fear is wrapped up in the adrenal issues, the scope of what our bodies have to endure and not much room for anymore stress added . . .
maybe sound, lights, smells . . . you can practice with a movie in your mind as to how this might be more advantageous to you but also ask them to work with you on this. It's what you need, tell them.
Take a break if you can during the procedure - set on some kind of signal so they will stop for a minute or so if you need that - or if your ears need that.
Ear plugs are not advised as that can make sound worse inside the head but outer, smaller, over the ear muffs can help or a noise cancel set but if the muffs are too large the pillow can get in the way.
if you need your own neck pillow, take it.
as you can tell, I've not had fear issues but sensory issues. I've not even been able to go to a dentist in over five years and my mouth is a mess. But the sensory issues make it unsafe for me and for them.
When you talk to them about your needs, if they are more sensory, more exhaustion, more neurology -- or whatever, stress that. If actual fear, also let them know. But, so often, fear is not really the kind of fear so many think it is and the patient is then treated like a child.
For many with lyme, the concern is so much about how hard all this is for the various reasons stated (from my experiences) -- or other. The more specific you can be, the better they can be in caring for your needs and understanding.
And if you feel fear, also "check in" with your adrenals. What might soothe that system?
For instance, if you have tinnitus, it is common for patients to be told by ear experts to tell the dentist to stop when they need to so their ears can get a little break, when possible.
I'm glad you can go. See them, feel their presence as wanting to help you. Be sure of their expertise and that they are there with magic wands to correct and help healing start.
Picture them in Fairy Godmother outfits. Go for it. -
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- Epinephrine is in many anesthetics (not sure about anesthesia, though). Some discussion on why epinephrine (EPI) can be a rough ride for someone with lyme (especially if they have adrenal issues):
EPI & medical / dental procedures -
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- Backing up, they are unlikely to do any procedure tomorrow as it sounds like you aren't sure exactly what the "bad tooth" entails. They'll need to assess before scheduling an appointment.
So, tomorrow sounds like it's just meeting with the expert team who is there to help you - ? - the time set aside for the appointment might be a clue.
Treat your needs with the understanding that it's just what it is in regarding to your neurology, sensory and adrenal capacity. Lovingly, set in place what you need so that this can work for you. -
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LIVER & KIDNEY SUPPORT & and several HERXHEIMER support links, too. Timed away from Rx, though, so that the Rx can reach proper medicinal blood levels.
Topic: NATURAL SLEEP & ADRENAL SUPPORT -
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- These top my list of herbs with antimicrobial properties. Mentioned above, as some herbs can change the thickness of the blood that could hamper a procedure in a way. A ND would best know, maybe the dentist.
Best to know in advance how a particular herb will affect you. Many will increase urine output and that can be tricky when in the dental chair.
Of course, if you take allicin, your breath could knock them over but it might work AFTERWARD.
Seagate has a nice liquid OLE, too. Soothing for the mouth. -
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gigimac
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Thank you Keebler, it is so awesome of you to give such a detailed and kind response. I will be glad when I can get this tooth pain behind me.
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