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perfectly_healthy
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Hi,

Has anybody gone to the Infusio Clinic in Germany?

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Is that Dr W's clinic?

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No that is not Dr. W's clinic. His is in Pforzheim and deals with infrared treatment.

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Dr. W's BioPhoton treatment approach:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=125858;p=0

Topic: What is Photon Therapy?


http://lymebook.com/bionic-880-photon-woitzel-germany-pe1

BioPhoton Treatment with Dr. W -- Full Sample Chapter from book: Insights in Lyme Disease Treatment, by Connie Strasheim

Chapter 6 Bionic / Photon Therapy for Lyme Disease
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http://infusio.org/wp/en/english-test/

Infusio Clinic

- this site does not impress me as a place that is "lyme literate" or even literate in other tick borne / other chronic stealth infections.

They do have hyperthermia and detoxification but you could spend tens of thousands here for some overly aggressive approaches that might not entail all required.

If you happen to live there or be staying around there and also have fully lyme / TBD doctor treating lyme in some clear manner, some of the treatments at Infusio could be nice support if not approached too aggressively.
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If I were going to Germany, it would be to Dr W's clinic. He has a good track record.

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A person from our group in Texas Went there, she had tried everything else, was not doing well. She came back doing the best she had ever been, Infusi does some unique Cytokine bath treatment with the bloc, basically washing the blood and has been very helpful for some people.
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What does washing the blood mean?
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There is this treatment where they filter the blood through a sea sponge, and it removes toxic metals and toxins. The method actually is japanese
Apheresis I think

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Thank you for all the responses. I live in the US but my mom and other family live about 40 minutes from Frankfurt.

I did not know they do apheresis, which is controversial from what I have read. They do however withdraw blood, add oxygen to it, and then infuse the oxygen rich blood back in.

It is not a lyme literate clinic nor do they specialize in lyme treatment. What they do is to build the immune system by replacing minerals, vitamins, etc. that are missing, support and strengthen the body in other ways, and then also "treat" infections. So basically they are trying to help your body fight Lyme/infections on its own, which it was designed to do.

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quote:
Originally posted by n.northernlights:
There is this treatment where they filter the blood through a sea sponge, and it removes toxic metals and toxins. The method actually is japanese
Apheresis I think

That's scary!

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Let's not perpetuate Dr. W's treatment here.
here is my experience:

I went to see Dr. W in Germany for the biophoton treatment for a total of three trips and three months. Got worse each time. None of the lyme patients I talked to got any better afterwards. I didn't see a single case of improvement from about 10 patients I saw there.

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I got better with photon treatment.

Borrelia wasn't the only issue with me (or with anyone with Lyme) so I had to treat the other conditions including coinfections, parasites, heavy metals, nutritional imbalances, etc. If I hadn't treated the other things as well as using the photons for the borrelia, I wouldn't be well.

IMO, photons only treat borrelia. There is ALWAYS much more to Lyme Disease than borrelia alone.

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I also got better although not fully well with 3 weeks of photon treatment with Dr. W.

Different treatments seem to work for different people.

I also used a local energy healer and treated parasites and heavy metals. Am 90% well.

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I am not familiar with the Infusio Clinic in Germany.

My son had biophoton treatment done by Dr. W. in Germany and it did not help him.

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Infusio is also in Beverly Hills in the US.
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Also did a couple of weeks with Dr. W and did not recover. But he is a nice man and really go chiropractor. I lived in Europe at the time so it was convenient.

mary

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