bcb1200
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Hi folks:
Since dealing with my flare up from December I've been having some issues with post nasal drip and top of head pressure.
Googling, I've read this can be due to sinus issues, potentially the Spenoid sinus. I think the sinus issues I'm having is due to LYme & Co. Possibly Babs or Protomyxzoa. (Sinus pressure and Post Nasal is on Dr. C's symptom list for Proto.)
Anyway...about 2 weeks ago I bought a neti pot. I've used them in the past when having post nasal and it always worked well.
I used the neti pot around Feb 29 or March 1 using warm tap water (we have a whole house water filter than filters out bugs, etc) and the saline packet.
After using it, my sinuses swelled up a bit. I thought I got all of the water out and went to bed. The following morning I got up, bent down, and low and behold water dumped out of my sinuses. It had been in there all night.
I did a neti pot again a few days later making sure to get the water out completely.
Since that time, my sinuses have been feeling very bad. Pressurized at the bridge of my nose, or the maxillary sinuses under the left or right eye.
On top of pressure, I get frequent "clicking" noises in them. I'll be sitting at my desk at work and will hear them click click click as if air is moving around in the mucous inside. It sounds like Rice Krispies "Snap, Crackle, Pop!" Sometimes I feel it in my upper teeth, back molars.
Also, when I walk around I get a clicking in my left ear / upper left teeth sinus area. It seems to go away if I push on the bridge of my nose (ethmoid sinus?).
Has anyone ever had "clicking" sinuses?
I'm wondering if my neti potting made the situation worse?? Before using the Neti, I didn't have any pressure or noises/sensations in my sinuses at all. I only had post nasal.
Saw my LLMD 2 days ago and he is doing a culture of my nasal passages to look for bacterial or fungus. In the mean time, I'm off abx and on Diflucan and Flonase along with "simply saline" spray.
Good news is, since upping the Liposomal Artemisinin 2 days ago my hot flashes / sweats are GREATLY IMPROVED (as in gone for now) And I've actually SLEPT the past 2 nights. No insomnia. My brain actually feels clearer as well, although I still have top of head pressure (feels as if someone is pushing down with 2 fingers) and a woozy/off balance feeling.
I hope these improvements hold and hope I continue to improve. Perhaps this is Babs or Proto and I'm finally responding to the Ivermectin/Liposomal Artemisinin.
Has anyone ever had clicking sinuses / snap crackle pop? And how did you get it to stop??
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Xlear nasal spray is great for sinuses, as is the BEG nasal spray (compounded solution with abx and antifungals)
I never had much relief from the neti pot either so I stopped using it. If you try it again, I would use distilled water, not tap.
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That is great you are feeling better! Yes, I've had those clicking noises before in my sinuses but I'm not sure what it was.
I remember trying the neti pot too, but my sinuses were blocked, no water would go in on one side. I just thought maybe too much mucus (it's gone now).
Does your doc think it's babs? Are you still on the diet?
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Catgirl, how did you get it to go away? Did you only have it for a few days or was it weeks / months?
LLMD doesn't know what it is. He did a deep nasal swab and is sending out for culture (bacteria / fungus). It will take a month. If we find something we will treat, although I'm on Diflucan in the interim.
I think he believes this is just a layer of the illness I'm burning through and thinks my musculoskeletal system of my neck/ head/jaw is partly to blame.
Fungus could be a major part, as could Babs / parasite / Protomyxzoa.
I worry I somehow introduced a new variable into this mess with my Neti pot as my sinuses were not bothering me before and all I feel now is pressure on the bridge of my nose.
I'm no longer on the ketogenic diet but am still sugar free and reduced carb.
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I've found a better solution than a neti pot. I taped a dome shaped washer onto the tip of my dental irrigator and then I spray my nasal passages using a salt and xylitol solution.
Gets your sinuses cleared better than the neti pot. Don't know whether that would help your current situation.
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No idea whether these suggestions would help:
My sinuses cleared for 48 hours upon drinking mangosteen juice, an anti-inflammatory juice - various versions can be found at the health food store.
Also, I watched someone tape small 10-gauss magnets to their forehead just over the inside corner of their eyes and their sinuses cleared up.
Another idea is to get cranial work and see if that would settle your head bones more. It doesn't take that long to do - a skilled practitioner checks all the head bones to make sure they're moving and not stuck.
Off-balance feeling can come from top vertebrae being out of place. A good chiropractor can check.
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I did the nasal swab test too, and was later given a compounded spray which may be why it's gone. I can't remember, but I think the spray got rid of the noise right away, or maybe a few days later. Your doc will know more when the test results come back.
No, don't beat yourself up over the netti pot. The salt may have made a small dent there and that could have something to do with your reaction.
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My sinuses were totally blocked on one side with mucous from April 2015 to March, 2016. This is gross so forgive me: on the side that was totally blocked with mucous, whenever it got really full, I blew my nose with a tissue, using a milking motion on that nostril until I couldn't get anything else
To come out of it. Then I sprayed Xylitol into it as well as the other side and put my head way back and sniffed so that it would go as far into my sinus passages as it could go. I angled the nose dropper toward the opening of my sinuses. The Xylitol melts mucous so you will feel it running
down the back of your throat. Then once a week or twice a week I used 1 spray of Flonase in either nostril. The Flonase was key to finally drying up The sinuses but you can't over use it. Only one spray every 12 hours is recommended and there were warnings about it in the paperwork that comes with it but I don't think I could have beat it without Flonase.
And at night when both sides would be blocked, on the best side, I used 1 spray of Walmart's Equate Nasal Spray which has listed as the only ingredient - Phenylephrine HCI 1% which hasn't been habit forming.
Regarding the clicking and fullness, it sounds like you have water in your sinuses which is blocked with mucous. Melting the mucous with Xylitol should eventually clear it. It also might help to lay down on your side with a hot water bottle held to the sinus area which might melt the mucous and free up the water. I used a heating pad.
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I would NOT use tap water, no matter how good your filter is. NO way. Use distilled water. It's not that expensive and much safer.
I've had mild clicking that I can hear if I have ear plugs in at night and my sinuses are bad.
Go buy one of those Neil Med sinus spray bottles. Also... I react to baking soda, and it's in those packets they sell. Perhaps you are also reacting to it... hence the swelling.
On those booklets that Neil Med puts out, they even talk about people reacting to the baking soda. Their solution is to increase the amount, but that won't work for me. I am simply sensitive to it.
I use KOSHER salt and distilled water for my sinus rinses.
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