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Karensky
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6 months ago I came home from a 3 mile walk with what felt like shin splints .

I didn't do much to begin with as it was the holidays & a busy time.

1 month later I went to an orthopedist who took x-rays & told me to rest,ice,take advil & it should be better in 4 weeks.

4 weeks later I went back to same doc & he said give it another 4 weeks ... etc , etc ... now 6 months later I am told I need surgery for degenerative cartilage that has 0 % chance of regenerating .

Until now I did not think it may be related to lyme disease but now I wonder if it is ... if anyone has had a similar experience and/or advice please share , TY !

[ 05-05-2016, 02:09 PM: Message edited by: Karensky ]

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It has gotten to all my facicia and some muscle too..bb loves soft tissue... regular ducs are so neglectful.

.my friends 17yr old daughter is being told her back cartilage is a result of juvinile arthritis. ..sound familiar ie lyme conneticut.i am mad for you..

are you still treating ?

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Hey KS,

Not sure if you are familiar with bartonella? Specifically Bartonella quintana, also known as "shin-bone fever". I am putting some links below for you.

I ask because I developed extremely painful shin splints- extremely painful. I was walking 2 miles a day and had to stop totally.

I was told by a good doc shin splints can occur on all 4 sides of the legs. Mine were on three sides at the time. I've barely walked since.

Bartonella can "eat" bone, making it appear like swiss cheese. Lyme can "eat" ligaments/collagen (its favorite food). Please excuse my word "eat". A better word would be "destroy".

I also have chondritis which is an inflammation of the cartilage (caused by chronic infections) and it can be very painful too. Lyme causes inflammation as does Bartonella and other tick borne diseases.

There is a whole lot of things I am trying to put together to share with you, but my brain is on vacation and this is coming out jumbled. Hope you can read thru to get my points.

My main point is I would like you to consider the above information BEFORE agreeing to having surgery.

If, after reading the links below, you have questions, please ask and I'll try to give you more info and answers.

Bartonella information
https://sites.google.com/site/marylandlyme/tick-borne-diseases/bartonella

Chrondritis
http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/conditions/aches-and-pains/a2864/costochondritis-tietzes-syndrome/

Inflammation and Cancer, Cysts, etc.
https://sites.google.com/site/marylandlyme/lyme/cysts-tumors-lesions-cancer

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Homeopathic Ruta is good for shin splints.
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Karensky
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Thx Tincup , bluely & lookup ,

I checked out the links & now my heart is racing ! [Frown]

I had thought I may have left lyme behind me with only a few

" mopping up the mess " issues left to deal with , such as candida

along with a possible thyroid problem . I stopped ABX TX 4 years

ago when I switched to a natural course of TX & I gradually felt

better & better to a point I felt " cured " .

Until now , since this ankle biz .

Now you have me wondering whether I have been remiss /

mislead in thinking this way and instead , unbeknownst to me ,

damage has been continuing inside my body all along .

In the chrondritis article it mentioned specifically the ribcage

area ... would you know if other areas also can have chrondritis ?

Strangely enough , 2 years ago I thought I was having a heart

attack in the middle of the night & ( don't judge please ) drove

myself to the ER . They said no heart attack ongoing but that did

not mean I had not had one prior . Possible chrondritis ?!

Oh vey ... just when I thought I had this darn lyme licked !

Thx so much for the info ... will delve deeper now !

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Ive had many trips to er for heart attack that always turns out to be either costochondritis(between ribs) or reflux. So now when i feel the pain i take a muscle relaxant and/or reflux meds

I stopped going toer for that pain...one of those two drugs always make it better

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I have problems like that related to taking levaquin (a fluoroquinolone antibiotic) for Lyme-related co-infections.
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Karensky
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@Tincup ,

So what helps & or reverses or stops the damage to soft tissue &

bone due to bacterial infection ... more ABX ?

My orthopedic surgeon said that cartilage has zero % chance of

regenerating , once it is gone it is gone . The surgery he

suggested entails drilling holes in the bone to "bleed" into the

damaged area in order to stimulate new cartilage growth ,

though this regrowth is of a more fibrous nature than our

original cartilage and not as thick or durable . If indeed a

bacterial infection is the cause then that must be addressed 1st,

would be my guess, as it will only continue to destroy further

the new cartilage produced ?

I have no idea really where I am @ with the lyme & co. any more

so maybe I should be tested again since it has been many years

since my blood last was sent to IGX . What would you advise ?

Is there anything I can do as a self help measure ?

Thank you for any & all help ... glad I cam back here to check in !

It is a complicated disease & one I thought I had put behind me .

Perhaps I need to see a proper LLMD again ... [confused]

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