Topic: Local News Story re Hyperthermia Treatment in Germany - Cured!
bcb1200
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Thought I would share this news article which aired on a Boston station last night about a girl with chronic lyme who had made zero progress despite years of oral and IV abx. She traveled to Germany to get Hyperthermia treatment and is now cured.
When I was a patient of the famous Dr. H, he also spoke highly of Hyperthermia treatment as one of the only potential ways to kill every (or the vast majority) of the bugs.
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The video is good to watch as they show details of the Hyperthermia treatment. But for those who can't view, here is a transcript of the video from WCVB Boston:
BELMONT, Mass. — After years of sickness, a Belmont teen was diagnosed with Lyme disease and her family took what some might call drastic measures to help her get well.
For Sara Mulhern, nine years of sickness started at summer camp on the Cape.
"Kind of like flu-like symptoms. I had a very high fever and I knew something was wrong," Mulhern said.
A local doctor thought it was a virus. But in the years that followed, Sara would be diagnosed with dozens of ailments including obsessive compulsive disorder, chronic fatigue, arthritis and depression.
By high school, she was missing more than 100 days of school.
"It was really the school psychologist that said, "God, have you looked at Lyme?" Sara's father, Bob Mulhern, said.
Testing revealed Sara had nine of the 10 markers indicating a Lyme diagnosis; a conclusion that motivated her parents, Bob and Tina Mulhern. For months, doctors tried several antibiotics, both oral and intravenous but they weren't helping.
"That whole entire year, I was just researching. I'd be up until 3 in the morning," Tina Mulhern said.
That research led them to the St. Georg Klinik in Germany. Doctors there believe whole-body hyperthermia treatments can rid the body of Lyme. A patient's body temperature is raised above 105 degrees. The clinic said that kills off the bacteria making them sick.
After much thought and consulting with Sara's doctor, she decided to try it.
"I was like, 'Wow, I really do want to continue my life and I think even though it's scary, it's totally worth it," Sara Mulhern said.
A fundraising website helped with the costs, raising $60,000 in 30 days. Sara prepared with sessions in an infrared sauna and IV antibiotics. In January, she made it to the clinic and through two rounds of hyperthermia treatments.
"I literally felt like I was on a new level. I was like, I feel so good," Mulhern said.
She felt well enough to make a trip to Paris with her mother without any of the symptoms that had been dogging her for years.
"We had so much fun. This part of her personality was just tucked away," Tina Mulhern said.
Now, Sara is still recovering and said she feels amazing. She plans to start college next spring. Her parents almost can't believe the change.
"She now has the energy and she has the appreciation of being healthy and being able to do the things now that she couldn't do before," Bob Mulhern said.
Chronic Lyme disease is not officially recognized by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. There is controversy as to whether the condition really exists. In the United States, hyperthermia has been tested in cancer treatment clinical trials, but it's still considered an experimental technique at this time.
Sara and her mother, Tina, have started a non-profit to help others dealing with similar symptoms. For more information, click here.
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Thanks for posting this. Has anyone else had success with this? Seems expensive. Would love to hear more success stories! Yay for this young lady!
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There is a lot of scientific basis to think this could work. Many bacteria that can inhabit the body are sensitive to temperatures above 40 C. This is one reason why the body gets a temperature when we get sick. It fights infections.
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It makes sense to me too. I would just like to hear of more success stories. My bet would be part of it is the cost of going over.
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Interesting that Ty Bollinger's series on treating cancer naturally also included hyperthermia treatment.
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At the very least, I think saunas and infrared spas can be helpful for many. They do increase the effectiveness of antibiotics. Research has shown they can be more effective and higher temperatures.
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I saw that too bcb! The girl looked great, she was so happy. I think heating the body helps cut them back too, at least with a sauna. She used a sauna and IV before getting the hyperthermia.
I remember reading in the book: Tickslayer that the author, Perry, didn't have a sauna but used her car in the summer as one. I don't know how she did it. She would sit in a hot car with the windows up, lots of water and sweat. I tried it and could only last a few minutes.
She also would wear sweats and go on long walks to heat up and sweat. She did get rid of lyme but she did other things too. I do believe heat is a factor. It's another way to hit them.
That may be why exercise helps to kill them too. The muscle burns all the time raising internal temperature. I think I better go work out...
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I went to Germany for hypothermia treatment last year, when I came back started feeling better, unfortunately a couple of months later all symptoms were back. It is only suppose to kill lyme not co infections. The teats for babesia and bartonella through igenix were negative, but Dr. S says I have them both from symptoms. If you have co infections it is not the answer and it is expensive. I met people there that went to get treatment from Australia, Israel, and London who were being treated for lyme. The girl from London had been there before at the beginning and had gotten better but three years later it was back so she came fro treatment again. it did not work for the people from Australia or Israel.
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quote:Originally posted by lymehope: I went to Germany for hypothermia treatment last year, when I came back started feeling better, unfortunately a couple of months later all symptoms were back. It is only suppose to kill lyme not co infections. The teats for babesia and bartonella through igenix were negative, but Dr. S says I have them both from symptoms. If you have co infections it is not the answer and it is expensive. I met people there that went to get treatment from Australia, Israel, and London who were being treated for lyme. The girl from London had been there before at the beginning and had gotten better but three years later it was back so she came fro treatment again. it did not work for the people from Australia or Israel.
Thank you, lymehope, for your feedback. Although it may help for some, as we all know, there is no magic bullet for all of the infections and other factors that need to be addressed.
After seeing this thread, I got interested for myself, but with all of what I have going on, it just would only do so much at best, I'm sure. I'm tempted, but it just doesn't sound realistic for me (and likely for many).
I'm curious, lymehope, did they do IV abx with you, too? And other modalities in conjunction with the hyperthermia?
It just is a long-term, multi-pronged effort for most of us, so the quick magic bullet isn't likely to work. Sigh, I wish.
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Hi Rumigirl and willbeatthis It was two weeks of iv antibiotics (they don't believe in long term) antibiotics. It also included IV glutatihon / IV vitamin C/ionic foot baths/ light therapy / vitamins every day/ 2 Hyperthermia/ 2 colonic therapy sessions. It also included 2 months of email support, however they only seem to answer you back when things are positive. If symptoms appear or get worse they do not answer or say this had never happened.Not included in the price of $16,000.00 US were the meds of IV vitamin C and Glutathione/ or the list of vitamins you purchase in Germany, some are available in US which you can get here. Like Rumigirl said I was looking for the magic bullet, did not work for me. I went inspired by some of the stories I read. But you don't see how many people are not helped by this treatment. I spent about $24,000.00 in this treatment including ticket and meds. If you have the money to spend and only have lyme than it is definetely worth giving it a try.
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I have a friend who traveled to a clinic in Germany. I know when he came back, he felt great. They also did the IV lipids at the same time. Unfortunately, he did experience a relapse a year later.
So, if you cannot have antibiotics, or have the money, I think it would be a great treatment. I know I'm hesitant to pay $20-40,000 with no garauntee of success.
What I wonder about it is, the whole body is heated, except for the head obviously. What if you have some spirochete's in your brain or upper neck? Do you also take antibiotics to clear everything?
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Neko, The treatment they do id the same for everybody. Everyone gets two weeks of IV antibiotics. They do not believe in long term antibiotics.
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So, if I'm getting this straight, lymehope you went for hypothermia, not hyperthermia? If that's the case, then the hyperthermia may still be promising (BB hates heat).
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There is a you tube video of people who went to Germany and were successfully treated. I saw it when i first became ill and was researching treatment.
Who has the money however to do this; A friend of mine called me right when she heard I had Lyme and told me that her step-brother had gone to Switzerland for HYPOthermia treatment, It killed the Lyme but not the damage it already caused and he lives with significant amnout of pain.
A woman from LA is going there for treatment after years of being diagnosed with MS, she was finally diagnosed with Lyme,
I wonder how both HYPER and HYPO thermia treatments can cure this> Why are treatments that seem to work so darn expensive we can't afford them or they aren't even available.
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Hi all, The place I went to is Klinik St. Georg, in Bad Aibling, Germany, headed by Dr D. I went also after hearing of people that got well in the internet, but for me is was to good to be true. I have done two expensive treatments to begin with as I was afraid on being on long term antibiotics. I am now going the antibiotic route and doing better than I had in two years. St. George Clinik treatment consist of receiving 2 hyperthermia, treatments (NOT HYPOTHERMIA) along with daily IV's of antibiotics / vitamin C/ daily vitamins/ colonics/ light therapy/ ionic foot baths and Glutathione, The uncomfortable side effect ( I have burn marks in my stomach from the hyperthermia. They also provide support for 2 months email communication I started to feel better when I just came back, but unfortunately I started having a massive amount of symptoms 2 months later. I hope this helps, unfortunately there is no one shot treatment for everyone.
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ICHT may not have worked for YOU because:
DNP upregulates MnSOD (manganese superoxide dismutase) in the liver.
Bb and Cpn (C. Pneumoniae co-infection in lyme and MS) have genes for MnSOD = SOD2, a mitochondrial superoxide dismutase (breaks down the powerful superoxide free radical). That gene in those pathogens looks to help them from being "fried" by the powerful superoxide free radical.
"Enhancement of mitochondrial, cyanide-resistant Superoxide dismutase in the livers of rats treated with 2,4-dinitrophenol"
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LymeHope- I'm newly diagnosed and new to this site. Could you please share with me where you got your information about stem cells treating just lyme and not coinfections? I have Mycoplasma Pneumoniae, Cocksackie,and Chlamydia pneumoniae. Do you mean those or the more common Bartonella, Babesia, etc? Thanks!
quote:Originally posted by lymehope: I went to Germany for hypothermia treatment last year, when I came back started feeling better, unfortunately a couple of months later all symptoms were back. It is only suppose to kill lyme not co infections. The teats for babesia and bartonella through igenix were negative, but Dr. S says I have them both from symptoms. If you have co infections it is not the answer and it is expensive. I met people there that went to get treatment from Australia, Israel, and London who were being treated for lyme. The girl from London had been there before at the beginning and had gotten better but three years later it was back so she came fro treatment again. it did not work for the people from Australia or Israel.
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Many here are relatively new to Lyme horror stories...ICHT killed and American doctor who we for treatment in Italy. Marnie, Lymetoo,Tincup, Tabby tamer, and others were around at that time. I think the Doctor's name who ran the clinic was Bachinsky [SP]. He was running weight loss clinics in the US before he was shut down. Many athletes used DNP to raise their internal temperatures and some died in the process.
Don't even THINK about this.
Peace, Love, and Wellness, JRWagner
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JRWagner, was this the patient Bryan Rosner mentioned in his rife book that died in the room next to him?
I believe from what I have read, Germany does the treatment differently than Italy. Some places inject Malaria to cause a high fever, others use real heat to increase body temperature.
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DNP was used, not malaria. No idea about Rosneft's book.
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DNP is not being using at the treatment facility being discussed in this thread. It's a totally different treatment than the one used in Italy. It is not ICHT Intracellular Hyperthermia Therapy and will not cure one of Lyme Disease. The body cannot be heated to high enough temperatures to kill off the spirochetes for sustained periods of time by way of external heat without killing a person. ICHT, did not heat the body, but increased the patient's metabolic rate to create heat in every cell in the body. The patient never ran a fever, as it was not a central nervous system response and it did not induce a fever, as in Malaria therapy.
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