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Breaking up the above post so that it can be read by all:
Hey there. My wife and I have been battling immune issues and aches and pains due to lyme through herbs and diet, with little success.
I am now on lDN, which seems to have helped the aches, but I'm waiting on lab results to determine if my immune system has leveled out.
My friend who was so wrecked by lyme that she was at one point given 6 weeks to live, just was pronounced lyme free after using Frequency specific Microcurrent. She is glowing and vibrant after being bed ridden for years.
I am on a long wait list to see that doctor, when, In passing, my dad met a man who battled lyme for 30 years and then claimed he was cured by bio photonic light treatment, which I looked up and found encouraging lymenet discussions of the 880 and PE1.
Now, my afore-mentione friend has to use the FSM machine for about 6 hours a week, which is fantastic if the alternative is lyme.
It seems like the biophotonic success stories are much less burdensome than that though, which has me leaning towards that treatment instead of FSM.
So, can anyone tell me if i can do the treatment by myself at home if I buy the PE1? are there detailed instructions anywhere and are there instructions on how to use the Nosodes?
Is there a current way to procure nosodes in the U.S., or do you just use your own blood? I googled lyme nosode and found something, but it had lots of herbs in it too and I feel like I read on one of these forums that you want to keep herbs out of your body when you are using biophotons.
Thanks in advance and thanks to everyone who so generously shared their success stories. It's very encouraging.
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Maybe Brussels or lookup will chime in here . I believe deseret biologics has some nosodes ...and there are some euro companies that will ship ..
please keep is posted ...not many practioners here in the states i have heard of 2
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I know a lady near Salt Lake City who has the PE1 and know how to do the protocol (with energy testing and everything).
A bit far from you, though.....
It is easy to do, if you can take lots of binders.
Contact me through PM, we can connect through skype or so, if you'd like.
Your wife may have other issues to treat, for sure.
The Bionic /PE1 will mainly deal with Borrelia, but the rest, you got to treat in other ways...
We had already reached remission a couple of times, before the PE1. I mean, my daughter and I.
But we were going through never ending relapses, then reinfections, so lyme was haunting us forever, it felt.
The PE1 was the last thing we did against lyme and it really closed the book for us.
Our path had been though long before that (not in time, but in suffering and intensity and variety of treatments).
What is FSM machine?? I am curious! Can you give us a link?
Nosodes are disappearing in Europe too.
You can still find them, but legislation changed, forced by our 'wonderful' pharma lobbies.
Homeopathic makers cannot afford to pay for the permission to allow use of every single product in Germany. STaufen closed its doors then.
And in Belgium, they are also trying to end with homeopathy (one company bought all the homeo makers and now is producing products that do not work anymore).
But there is still Austria.
It's a shame what's going on with alternative treatments.
Send me a PM, if you'd like.
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Many people don't do treatments on their own. They are afraid.
Many do (like buying supplements, doing coffee enemas etc). It's a matter of style of life, I think.
PE1 treatment has no danger in itself. The only danger are HERXES, like with any treatment.
Any child can do the treatment. You ingest nothing, no nosodes, just light on the body, that's it.
But herxes will not stop, so you got to know about herxes and what to do, in case toxins rise.
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It is difficult to get the right nosodes in the US now, so the frequency machine sounds interesting.
I would find out what your dad's and your friend used. Can you please tell us what it was? Rife maybe and which photonic machine?
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I got better from Bionic 880 treatment. I had to do many other things, too, like treat parasites and heavy metals. Exercise and diet was also important.
If you can get Deseret Biologicals nosodes, that would be a good place to start. Then switch over to blood. Dr. W, the doc who developed this treatment, just had us use plain blood in a vial.
The succussed blood might be stronger, I don't know. I didn't understand all that homeopathic stuff like Brussels does!
Be careful with blood treatment though, it's a lot stronger than the nosodes, which is why starting with the nosodes isn't a bad idea.
Dr. W, back when I went in 2008, gave an IV afterward that had minerals and homeopathic in it. He also had us drink at least one liter of water during treatment to flush it out.
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I started doing microcurrent treatment, in a similar device you mentioned.
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Follow up: I got in touch with Dr C who is a chiropractor in my hometown. He had a random conversation in passing with my dad about how
he was cured of lyme. He was treated in Germany with Dr W. for a few treatments, but relapsed a bit when he returned home. He herxed really
hard in Germany and barely got home he said. After his relapse, he did a DNA test and found he was unable to process toxins and had a build
up of them. Mold issues. Once he took care of that, he tried Biontology with a practitioner in Marin Ca and cured quite quickly. Its been
2 years without relapse. He was sick for 30 years and spent about $100,000 dollars on treatments in that time. After a short period
of treatment with Biontology, he's totally cured of lyme. He goes to a guy who also practices Biontology for generally maintenance
once in awhile, but not for lyme. He said they used nosodes in Germany.....but his actual healing treatment in Novato did not
use anything but the machine. Simple. Effective. He said its something like $150 for a treatment of 1-1/2 hours and you probably
need about 6 treatments.
The machine used in that practice is called the Chiren. I saw a video of the diagnosis and treatment of a person by the founder of this practice and it was very simple. No nosodes or blood. Just the machine.
Now I'm a little torn, because i don't live near anyone who does this treatment. I'd like to buy a machine so I can do our treatments at home, but this machine (Chiren) is not for sale to non practitioners. I still might pursue the PE1, but I like the fact that the Chiren doesn't need Nosodes or infected blood to work.
Just thought I'd share this man's success story and how it relates to our conversation.
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steveo, you must have called and they said you have to be a practitioner to qualify to buy an instrument (?) because that is not what it says on their site.
I like that it has the capability to change the terrain of the body to a more healthy one.
You'd have to get good using the electroacupuncture probe to get accurate readings. I have a $10,000 vega machine and a heap of ampules sitting idle in my closet because I could never quite trust my readings with it. If anyone is interested let me know.
Having said that - there are people who get really good using them. The patient/client needs to be well hydrated and the pressure you use on points needs to be consistent.
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It looks like the inspirstar has programmable microcurrent frequencies you can put together into protocols. I would like to know if it has a database of frequencies, i.e. Labeled like as with other databases that feed into EAV/EDS devices. Putting together a good frequency program maybe what got the person healed and was specific for them. Anyone know more about this machine?
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Auto sequence random frequency select mode which automatically changes between the above 8 different Nogier frequencies every 7 seconds
I don't see it on the site but I know that there was an option to use rife frequencies with a model not listed. It used to be listed and it only cost about 300 dollars more. What a deal! I'd give him a call!
I ended up not going with it because I wanted to work with the GB-4000 as so many people were using it. But, having said that, the PE-1 developer is very available to answer your questions. He is a really great guy and used to carry exactly what you are looking for.
I'd give him a call as it will save a lot of money to get the PE-1 with the rife capability.
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Yep, Look up is right: the old model PE1, the one most of us have, has only fixed frequencies (the 10 listed above). You can see them in the website.
Larry does have an upgraded version where you can set a wide range of frequencies. He contacted me years ago to offer an upgrade of my PE1.
You just have to give him a call. He is really a great guy, and probably has some research papers with more lists of frequencies!!
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Brussels, i looked up the Spooky2 and it sounds pretty amazing, but waaay over my head. What is the difference between RIFE and Bio photon therapy?
They are saying that the Spooky 2 is many RIFE machines in one...plasma, contact, remote, PEMF, cold laser, audio, and more.
Do any of those cure lyme? I'm a little overwhelmed with all the new jargon
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Steveo, they must have switched back. There was a falling out, so Dr. W used a machine just like the Bionic 880. Maybe they reconciled.
The Bionic also has set frequencies. The frequencies are different between the Bionic and the PE1. Brussels and I did our treatments around the same time. I went with the Bionic, which was more expensive ($8000) because that's what Dr. W used and he was the one who developed the treatment. Now that there is a trck record for the PE1, I may have considered it, it's hard to say. I had a certain comfort in using what Dr. W used.
Biophotons strengthen the body so the body does the work. I think of it like a phone charger ... it "charges" us to make us strong enough to fight the infection ourselves. There is no treatment as strong as the immune system if the immune system is working properly.
The rife machine does the actual killing.
As far as "curing" Lyme .... I fit the medical definition of cured. I do nothing for the Lyme and haven't since 2009. I credit the Bionic for getting me into remission. Then I did PIlates, which oxegenates deep tissue, ate healthy, detoxed, rebuilt my gut, got enough sleep, etc., and eventually I wasn't in a shaky remission, I was just healthy.
You can kill the bacteria and even get your immune system to do it, but there's more to "curing" Lyme. The body has to be made strong again otherwise you're always beating it back down.
TF did a very different road than me to wellness. She used ILADS recommendations of treatment. She also exercised. I think exercise is essential.
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Thank you Six. I get pretty good exercise. I'm an organic farmer who works on average 85 hours a week, so it keeps me moving and trim.
Obviously by that description, I am one of the lucky ones in terms of symptom levels to be able to work that much, but I and my doc are
concerned about my immune system's poor function and I'd love to reduce my aches and pains. I really appreciate your breakdown of
RIFE vs Bio Photons! I very much like the idea of having a healthy immune system do the killing for me. I'm waiting to hear back from
Larry about the PE1 upgrade. If I learn anything else, I'll post soon.
Lookup. Thanks for the oil recommendation. I saw great reviews online and forwarded it to my dad. He's going to give it a try thanks to you! It's been difficult for him to be in
public spaces where loud noises trigger dizziness, headaches, disorientation, and nausea.
It was very kind of you to offer a possible treatment.
Thanks to you all for being willing to share and help!
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I ended up buying the Asyra to scan for information. I find it to be VERY helpful.
If doing rifing (the rife is for our family only- just have to say that for legal reasons) I run the scan for frequencies.
The scan takes about 15 minutes. Then I analyze it in 5 different ways. This takes some time and is much more involved than how one is trained to look at the information. I look at:
1) rating
2) repeated frequencies
3) names attached to frequencies
4) batches of frequencies that are very close numerically to each other (then I run a sweep to pick them all up)
5) I look in the GB-4000 manual at the Preset Programs to see if a lot of the frequencies that got hits are in one certain program.
That steers me to what is sitting on top of the case. Because! This is the challenge with Rifing. What frequency do you choose? Maybe it is not Lyme at all. Maybe it is EBV, etc.
Sometimes the scan will bring up some ridiculous malady that you know you do not have.
But, this is the thing- the name attached to the frequency could be the same frequency as another malady. Example: one frequency could be the same for a boil and sinus infection. When I figured that out then I didn't freak out so much about what was getting pulled up.
I then pull in my classical homeopathic training and look to see why certain frequencies are getting pulled up.
I ignored so often the frequencies for TB until one day I said, "Let's just run them, gosh dangit, and see what happens" and ding ding ding the session went right to the areas that were bothersome!
I thought, "Duh, the scanner was picking up what is called a inherited miasm or taint." Both great grandparents had TB. So interesting.
In the beginning of the journey I started out with a Hulda Clark Zapper with many drivers according to what I thought would have an affect. It did not touch the case. I have one sitting in the closet hardly used if anyone is interested.
I was looking at Spooky2, since Brussels brought it up, and it has a scan for frequency capability- I like that a lot. I'm half tempted to get it just for that so I can compare scans. But, hey, this all takes time and I am looking at hours of work doing that little experiment. Still it is tempting.
I am in full agreement with Brussels and sixgoofykids and others on lymenet that the most important thing is to make the body strong.
You are an organic farmer so that helps a lot! Diet is huge. We found that Paleo Approach to AutoImmune by Ballentyne was very helpful.
You are in agreement as you said you like the idea of letting the body help itself. Very wise. I came to that conclusion after a straight up learning curve on Lyme and after buying heaps of supplements that didn't appear to be helpful.
Milk thistle was good though and Hypothalamus pmg from Standard Process to calm down nerves. CORE, by Biopure was very good too (Klingharts compilation to deal with HPU/KPU) Some people can't do zinc very well - just giving you a heads up on that.
Restore (www.restore4life.com) is our number one against autoimmune by getting that cytokine storm (inflammation) down besides not eating things that inflame. This is where I would started if I would have known.
I did not know about photon therapy until Brussels told us about it. By that time we were pretty much cruising to wellness.
Still, you have to know what nosode to use with the session and that is where energy testing comes in.
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poor Steve...
I hope he's not getting nightmares with our posts!!
there are waaay too many options!
Once you get a device, until you master it, it takes time too.
Sometimes I never master fully a device (like the contact Rife I have). Specially when you get better and don't need them anymore...
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steveo- you can use probiotics with Restore but we don't use probiotics because:
Restore Function/ Usage Guidelines
"Probiotics and Enzymes:
We do not recommend long-term use of probiotics or digestive enzymes when using Restore.
We prefer that the communication network of Restore be allowed to balance the normal bacterial biome and enzymatic digestive process.
Oral introduction of high-dose enzymes by mouth changes the rate and location of digestive breakdown in the gut.
Similarly, long-term use of probiotics creates an oversimplified monoculture in the bacterial biome. Use of either probiotics or digestive enzymes for a couple of weeks after antibiotic exposure or a viral illness is reasonable.
Fermented foods are fine to consume when using Restore. Variety is important. In addition, I avoid dairy-based ferments — ie yogurt, kefir, cheese — instead selecting coconut milk or other non-dairy yogurts, etc."
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Hey Steve, you are by far much more open than most people I know.
I'm glad you are willing to try both the Spooky2 and the PE1.
The PE1 is very simple to use, really. It does work for Borrelia (to put it either dormant, or in low gear), but I'm not sure about other infections...
When my Borrelia finally stopped being central in lyme, most coinfections became less aggressive.
But I think it's a great idea that you take these 2 approaches.
And if the radionic treatments work, it will be MORE than great.
As for your biological farm problems, have you tried the ZERO cost self made nosodes?
You can PM me, if you'd like. Just collect the pathogens (fungi, bacteria...) and try to make a nosode (it usually takes you just minutes to do, if the amount is not too important).
Then spray it back on the plants.
I only do these things low scale, and I test plants energetically.
I usually cannot find solutions against insects, but I usually find a solution for 'infections' (fungi, bacteria, less evolved critters, I mean).
Of course, I just have a small garden.
I hope you come back to post about your experiences (both good and bad) with the PE1 and the Spooky2, for us to know!
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I had the same experience as Brussels. Once the borrelia was not a problem, my immune system was strong enough to fight the coinfections. I simply drank good tonic water to help with babesia symptoms. That would have done nothing when the borrelia was an issue.
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Nosode-making ideas:
- collect a bit of the fungi. If on leaves, just use a very wet cotton piece and rub on the leaf. The more variety you get the best (like collect from a couple of trees, instead from a single tree).
- Then squeeze the wet cotton on a table spoon or small container. Stir the 'dirty' liquid.
If in doubt, you can also use alcohol (like vodka), instead of water. Sometimes some 'pathogens' dilute easier in vodka than water.
The important thing is to get the 'pathogen' because this is the main source of the nosode.
- The least mixtures inside, the best, because it's purer (meaning, don't try to use different diseases in one nosode, if that is possible). Treat each disease, one by one.
- Take a clean bottle with a dropper. No smell allowed. Disinfect it with boiling water.
Take 1 drop of the pathogen soup, put in the bottle, and dilute it to 10 drops of water.
Succuss the bottle 100 times (it means, hit it against your palm, so that bubbles are formed).
- Add 10 times more water, sucuss 100 times, you got a D2 dilution.
- Add 10 times more water, sucuss 100 times , you got a D3. If infection is really bad, you got to start treating with a D3.
but usually, you start on a D6. The amount will increase 10x fold at every dilution.
D6 is for active infection.
You can just do a trial on one plant: spray on leaves to check.
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If that does not work, you can try a C centesimal dilution, more potent: instead of diluting to 10 drops of water and increasing 10x fold the amount of water, you got to dilute that to 100 drops of water, on and on again.
the higher the dilution, the more potent it is.
It looks a bit crazy, but that is how homeopathy heals humans too!
If you send me your leaves I can try to test them energetically for you, and give you the exact dilution.
I can't put my hand on fire this will work, but as it is totally not dangerous, why not trying?
If you are interested in understanding how to make own remedies, and what is homeopathy, etc, I think this doctor explains it well.
He said he never used any antibiotic in the last 40 years, due to homeopathy.
I think I bought one the last Borrelia nosodes from Staufen Pharma, but there are other nosodes in Austria:
take a look at remedia.at
I'll handle these nosodes to be copied through another technology (Vital Force Technology).
I'm not working for them (I mean, not for money) but I thought this would be a means to preserve the content of these nosodes for the future, because legislation here in Europe only supports the pharma and medical lobbies, and that is why all homeopathic companies are closing their doors.
they can record the 'content' of nosodes and then imprint in salt, water, whatever they want to.
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I am so confused...I don't understand this because of my neuro issues.
Who is Dr. W? Is he the doctor who runs the clinic in Germany where everyone is basically getting cured (or almost cured)?
Do these photon etc machines apply some kind of heat source? That appears to be the reason some people are getting better in Germany through hyperthermia treatments.
If ozone treatments work and are given to people in Europe and Texas A&M Lyme research studies show oxygen kill borrelia why can't we get that here.
Lastly what are "nosodes", if they are some kind of fungi wouldn't that be bad if we also suffer from mold issues (I tested positive for black mold and gliotoxin)
Sorry I used to be really smart!
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I'm sorry Etb...
No need to excuse yourself, PLEASE!
We all know what neuro lyme feels like.
I have to excuse myself!! ----------------------------
Dr. W = yes, the MD from Pforzheim, Germany.
Not all are cured from it, but many people feel improvement.
It MAINLY deals with Borrelia, basically.
Probably the ozone will deal with other infections and also with cleansing (toxins).
------------------------ Photon machines we mention here are infrared devices using 880nm wavelength.
The PE1 has other wavelengths besides 880nm.
The PE1 does not heat.
I suppose the Bionic neither.
It is not heat that treats, but the 880nm infrared is used to TRANSMIT the information from the nosode.
Nosode is a type of homeopathic remedy, made from pathogens.
Dr. W uses Borrelia nosodes, made from Borrelia, to treat lyme disease (in fact, it only treats Borrelia, not coinfections).
It does not require ingestion, because he uses infrared to transmit the information from the nosode to the patient.
You don't have to understand that all.
The treatment is rather simple. A 4 year old can easily learn it and do it, without understanding what s/he is doing.
The hardest part is to explain how it could work. --------------------------
I had ozone treatment in my mouth, and it did not really solve the problem completely.
But it helped.
Ozone is not really dangerous, but it is too cheap.
My tooth treatment cost me about 2-3 dollars only!!
It is not profitable, so why promoting it?
-------------------------- Homeopathy is also very inexpensive, no side effects, so it makes competition to expensive pharma products.
That is already a reason to eliminate homeopathy (and nosodes).
That is what has happened in the US in the 30s or 40s (homeopathy was practically killed),
... and that is what is happening NOW in Europe (homeopathy is being killed now, due to strict legislation that favors only big pharma).
------------------------------------- Nosodes can be made by any pathogen, such as fungi, mold, bacteria, bacilli, virus, etc.
Whether all of these nosodes work or not, is a matter of testing each of them, recording the results, then publishing them.
Homeopaths will then make statistics and decide weather the remedy (nosode) works or not.
That is what homeopaths have been doing for the last 200 ++ years in Europe.
That is how we know if a nosode of certain pathogens work or not.
Merely by experience.
--------------------------------- Sanum company has excellent fungi / mold nosodes and other remedies, that are used NOT ONLY against fungi and mold, but against other types of diseases.
The same way that penicillin is used against many other pathogens, so Sanum nosodes made of fungi (including many types of penicillin) CAN be used to fight viruses, bacilli, bacteria, candida etc.
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ETB, you ARE still smart!
As soon as treatment starts working well, your brain will start performing again.
You don't lose intelligence!
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ETB, Brussels seems to have covered it all!
There are places that do the blood ozone treatment in the US, but not many.
I did the photon treatment in Germany, but I did not get the ozone. I got a detox IV that really seemed to be good for me with homeopathics and minerals.
The photon and the hyperthermia treatments both happen to be in Germany, but they are two entirely different treatments.
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Once your body heals some, you can switch over to vials of blood. Dr. W just had us use straight blood once the borrelia was beated down some. He didn't start us with blood because it's much stronger since it has all the pathogens.
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In Germany, the bottles were separate, not all dilutions in one bottle. They were clear bottles, taped together in a row and we taped them to our solar plexus under our shirt.
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DesBio still has Borrelia, Bartonella, Brucella series I think they also have Babesia mixed with Borrelia nosodes
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I know the remedies you have and those are X dilutions which is the same as D solutions (D(decimal) and X (Roman numeral 10) are for the decimal scale.
The closest to D10 is 15X. 60x and 60D are the same.
The C (centisimal) scale is the hundred scale.
LM means Last Millesimal and the dilution rate is 1: 499 drops of water.
C is 1 in 99 drops of water.
D is 1 in 9 drops of water.
I'd write more but have to scoot.
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DesBio still has Borrelia, Bartonella, Brucella series I think they also have Babesia mixed with Borrelia nosodes
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Hi Steve, sorry I didn't know you didn't know about dilutions...
For the PE1/ Bionic, you'll need a bit more than what is written above:
Remedia.at does not have the lowest dilutions D5, D6. I can see if I still have one extra here for you, if you'd like.
You can also ask Meripharm.de. They sold the Borrelia nosodes from Staufen Pharma, the original nosodes used by dr. W.
They won't ship to the US anymore, but please contact them and tell you can ship to an address in Germany (I live next to the border and I can pick it for you).
Price was about 30-50 dollars, I can't remember... They will NOT have all dilutions, as Staufen closed its doors. They are selling the nosodes that are left in stock.
Buy from them, and I'll help you find the missing ones (or if you buy the D5, the MOST IMPORTANT ONE, you can produce all others by hand at home).
that is all dr. W used (for Borrelia).
---------------------------- The Borrelia - Antigen Nosode series from Meripharm (is also a Staufen product): D4, D6, D8, D10, D12, D30, D60
I highly recommend these Antigen series, to be used during or after dr W's treatment with the PE1.
I think Meripharm still have them all. It is worth to buy, in my experience.
It will deal with left overs from the infection, minor symptoms that came from the immune reaction.
I can't remember the cost, but shall be around 30-50 dollars too.
If they don't have all, remember, the MOST IMPORTANT is the SMALLEST D4. From this one, you can produce by hand all others.
Dr. W does not use these, as far as I know. ----------------------------------
The C nosodes are very important in my opinion, and will NOT be used with the PE1.
I would recommend: C6, C12, C30, C60, C100, C200
They will only be used ingested under the tongue, when the photon treatment above finishes.
Again, if you buy the C6, you can produce all other dilutions by hand. It takes though a bit of time and patience.
C dilutions are stronger than D dilutions, and will deal with less visible symptoms, the left overs, and will help you not to relapse (in my opinion).
These C dilutions are very much used here in Europe, for lyme or other conditions.
I would highly recommend these, or the infection may persist.
-------------------- C1,000 is a very high diluted nosode, and if you once need that, it will be only once or twice a year or so...
It's not a must, you can buy it later.
I do think it helped me, when I was in the very last phase of lyme, doubting whether I was lyme-free or not. The moment I took that, I felt an almost immediate reaction, like a relief. It acts also psychologically, I think, to clear trauma or something like that.
----------------------- LM6 (I just checked now, it's LM6, not LM4, sorry!)
LM6 is the dilution I learned from my lyme doctor here in Switzerland, who learned from a vet: he uses that for repelling ticks in herds.
The tick situation in some areas here is very bad, and sometimes, whole herds are covered in ticks. Farmers give Borrelia nosodes mixed in food or water so that their animals get less ticks.
I use that for about 11 years, to repel ticks. I'm still bitten, but not that often as before.
If I don't take that, I can be bitten almost every day from March to September. With these nosodes, the number of bites fall to 5 a year, in average.
You don't have to buy it, it was just a suggestion.
The only borrelia nosode I still use today is this LM6. I only bought ONE bottle once in my life, and I still use the same bottle, because I dilute it in water, succuss it and take it.
All products above are mostly a one time buy, except for the C nosodes, that you need to ingest.
I never bought these many times either (just once), but because I dilute them in water and produce my own homeopathic dilutions.
they are all very inexpensive, in that sense. The whole family can use the same products.
I hope this clarifies what each nosode does...
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remedia.at has many Borrelia nosodes,and will ship to you in the US, i think.
they do NOT have the Bb test-series in small vials, but they have it in bigger bottles, that is why each bottle costs more (because they were done for ingestion, in larger quantity).
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I'm going to send all these nosodes to a company in the US soon.
I'm already in contact with someone there, who is interested in trying to record all the frequencies of the Staufen nosodes using a 'plasma technology'.
That is why I bought these Meripharm-Staufen nosodes again recently.
I'll give the nosodes in his hands, and will pray that this plasma technology is able to record the imprint of these nosodes forever.
I no longer need them, but I find it a shame that lobbying is destroying all these amazing therapies!
It's still just a dream, I'm not sure it's going to work, but I hope these nosodes frequencies will not be totally lost.
And if they do work, it would be wonderful to have them back to being produced again! And you guys may buy them directly in the US!
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I recently bought Desbio nosodes at Naturalhealinghouse.com They have Borrelia X nosodes mixed with Babesia nosodes
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Dr. W did use those nosodes, but he added two other vials. One he said was the bacteria. He told us it was only allowed by law to be in doctor's offices and that in the US it was only allowed in laboratories with a special license.
Some have suggested that vial was a mother tincture, but that doesn't make sense since it is only allowed in special labs in the US and not even in doctor's offices.
I don't know what the other of those two vials was.
He let us take the nosodes home with us, but we weren't allowed to take the other two vials.
He told us when we got home that we could use blood since our Lyme load was lowered. I did, just straight blood (after a round of the borrelia/babesia nosodes from Deseret). I treated with blood for the year after I went to Germany.
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quote:Originally posted by steveo: thank you for the translation lookup! does that mean I can make my own D and LM from a supply of C?
Unfortunately, one cannot make a D from a C because a C has already been diluted too much.
You COULD make a D into a C though by adding more drops of water. Ok, it would not be "exactly" a perfect C but darn CLOSE enough. In homeopathy we have a joke and we would call that a "close-enough-icum."
Now you know WHY homeopathic labs are getting closed down. You could treat a whole epidemic for practically nothing as once you have ONE pellet of any potency you can have it forever.
Drop it in water and everyone from the neighborhood comes for a drop of the remedy water to be put in a glass or jar from home. Then add 1/2 cup water and stir 10 times and that makes a gajillion more doses.
Like Brussels said- if you can get the D5 you can make almost anything from that. It will take some time but it is possible.
You could use the Korsikov method which uses the same vial over and over instead of having numerous (even into the hundreds) of vials.
Example: you have a D5 "mother bottle", take one drop of that and put it in an empty vial and add 9 drops of water. Succuss it 10 times (some labs succuss (bang on your palm or soft book) it 100 times)
This is a D6 potency.
Then...pour it out and leave one drop in the vial and add another 9 drops of purified water and succuss 10-100 times (the more you succuss it the more energetic it will be).
Whatever you do- just keep it uniform so you know what you did. Let's say you succuss 50 times- then succuss 50 times every time.
This is a D7 potency, etc.
You could also use ratios to work with:
D or X is 1 part of "Mother solution" 9 parts purified water
I use a mix of alcohol and water to preserve it better. When I get to the last potency then I do it like this for a D or X:
1 drop of the remedy from a previous potency 6 drops of pure water 3 drops of organic grape vodka
You could use Brandy too- but that has gluten in it and some people are sensitive to gluten.
Succuss as usual. This solution will last a long time.
Normally, one does not need to jump through all of these hoops but seeing that these nosodes are hard to get in low potencies then one may have to jump through hoops.
Once you go through all of that work make sure to keep your remedies away from strong EMF fields. I keep all of my remedies at least a yard from any cell phone or computer.
We don't use a microwave but some people do so it would not be good to store the remedies in a cupboard next to the microwave.
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Great suggestions, Look up. Thank you.
You explain things so well!!!
I guess the problem with homeopathy is not the physical part of it (dilution, succussion, ingestion, etc), but the MENTAL part of it:
It is virtually IMPOSSIBLE to believe this stuff will work!!!
Most of the WEstern world cannot grasp what is a remedy that's got basically water! And only water!!
They classify that as placebo, so why learning all those TOO EASY techniques, that are practically for free?
Homeopathy just comes in front, when there are people claiming to be cured. Like we did, with the PE1.
They think: well, it's the infrared from the PE1 that healed her.
No, no, no... It wasn't: it was the HOMEOPATHY that healed!
The same water remedy: yes, yes, yes.
So every single guy that had been healed from chronic lyme through the Bionic or PE1, has been healed by WATER remedies, not by high tech infrared devices.
The infrared only TRANSMITS the frequencies.
The proof is simple: repeat the procedure without nosodes attached to your belly, NOTHING will happen!!!
Add nosodes, you MAY get rid of lyme!
And you don't even have to INGEST nosodes, only keep it on your skin. This is the power of homeopathy.
That is why what heals is not the water, it's not the molecules of water in the remedy that are healing.
Just think about the history of homepathy, that goes back to Hahnemann 200 years ++ ago.
200 years of history!! It's amazing, I find.
How can we be antibiotic free for so long, 10 years?
And how could I do 7 bone surgeries (cavitations) all of them fully infected, WITHOUT a single dose of antibiotic?
it takes a lot of placebo for that!!!!
People are so afraid about the end of the era of antibiotic. But if they knew how powerful homeopathy is, there is no fear at all, in my opinion.
I mean, of course, homeopathy cannot go against all pathogens, and not everyone will be healed with it, but after all these years using homeopathy against infections, I never needed to come back to antibiotics (unless I'm on a trip, and I do not have my home pharmacy with me).
it is very important to destroy homeopathy, so that we become slaves of drugs, that we all see, literally, are NOT working any longer!
The lyme community is a proof of how inefficient antibiotics became for any chronic condition.
In my opinion.
but I do see clearly: what blocks people to move into homeopathy and energy medicine, is that it 'sounds' quack, impossible.
Their minds are totally stuck and cannot 'believe', so they won't give it a try. And if you say 'it's for free', then they'll believe it won't work AT ALL!!!
Photon + nosodes is the proof that what heals in homeopathy is NOT WATER, but the frequency inside water. If it was the water, we needed to have ingested the stuff to get better. And no one ingested those nosodes!!!
It still marvels me, when I think about it.
I got a new tick bite again, yesterday. My 6th this year. Or 7th? Ticks are increasing clearly, in my region.
If I didn't have homeopathy, I wonder what choice would I have, than move permanently out of the country side.
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Six, when you said that "DR W. used those Nosodes" were you referring to the ones from Meripharm that Brussels mentioned in German?
Lookup and Brussels, I'm grateful for all the information on how to make different concentrations, but I am still curious why there is a need for the various concentrations.
Also, perhaps I can contribute something to this instead of just receiving help. My wife and I live and work on a farm in the southern
U.S. and have a huge infestation of ticks in our area since it is very hot and humid and
since we live next to a State Park that is filled with deer. For our first two years
here, we were covered in ticks constantly. We had ticks and tick bites almost daily.
Eventually we found pants and socks that had Permethrin in them. That helped alot. Even
better than that though was to establish a community of Guinnea fowl. It used to be that
I couldn't walk from the house to the barn (50 meters) without fear of picing up ticks. Since
the Guinneas though, I haven't been bitten on our farm and have only seen two ticks on our
property in the last 4 years. Our barn cats and our Great Pyrenees roam all 9 acres and
even into the surrounding woods and none of them ever has a tick. Our guinneas have
cleaned up our property and a lot of the land around us. My anxiety for re-infection on my
land is gone entirely. I highly recommend them. They are loud at times, but it is well worth the peace of mind.
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amazing story, Steve. Are your guinea fowl walking free? Do they come back to sleep inside? And what about care? Are they like chicken?
Do they give nice eggs like chicken? And reproduce themselves on their own, or we must help with infrared incubators etc?
I have just a small area, but would like to have a couple of Guinea fowls, they look nice!
Wikipedia talks about the fact that these fowls do love ticks!!
------------------------- dr. W used Staufen nosodes, as it was one of the biggest companies here (one of the most trustworthy sources of homeopathics in Europe).
As for the dilutions, that IS homeopathy!
It's a bit like a filter: you can look at the same image but if you put another filter, the image will look different.
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Homeopathy is DILUTION.
The more you dilute, the stronger it gets.
Why different dilutions?
You take the wrong dilution, there is no result. As simple as that.
Take an example at a simple cold: first symptoms are fatigue, nose runs like water, no cough, viruses are reproducing fast to colonize more of your body.
So you treat it with certain homeopathic remedies: - stronger anti-viral, possibly a nosode of penicillium glabrum D6, that helps with killing - you can use Allium cepa that is basically onion, to stop the running nose
..... In a few days, no more runny nose like before, but it becomes a cough, that is wet, sticky, with catarrh: - you can increase the dilution of the Penicillium glabrum to D12, D30 even D60 to stop the spread of infection. - you have to use other cough medicine..
.... 7 days after, the running nose starts to be sticky too, no more watery... Allium cepa will NOT work, so you change it to something else, that also helps stopping that heavy, sticky catarrh coming from the nose.
10 days after, the cough became so dry, you have no more fatigue (meaning, infection is off, symptoms remain)... but the dry cough does not go away.
Time to make it liquid, to put it off. You stop all nosodes (no more killing), then add only treatments to make the cough wet so that it goes away.
------------------------- Same with lyme disease:
it has phases. Bacterial colonies behave different in different phases. Sometimes you need more aggressive anti-microbial treatment, sometimes less aggressive treatment.
By the end of the treatment, you don't feel any infection anymore, even though you may have some left over symptoms to treat.
Different dilutions clear all levels of disease. that is how I understand it.
----------------------- A last example:
Borrelia nosodes C200 are the nosodes that are classic. MOst homeopaths will know these nosodes, and will prescribe to all lyme patients.
I took these in the beginning of my lyme history. Ingested, orally. It helped, but it did not solve my problem AT ALL.
Later in the treatment, when I finally found dr. W's protocol, I used very low dilutions first, that CLEARLY got rid of MANY symptoms, then added the C dilutions, including the C200.
Well, that did the job.
So, in short, taking only one dilution C200 because it's a strong dilution, does not mean you will clear lyme.
Same as antibiotics: some people may use 5 simultaneous antibiotics in high dose for 6 months, but that does not mean it will clear lyme either!!
Strong does not mean better.
In homeopathy, DILUTION makes the product. One dilution is not the same as the other dilution.
Each dilution is a single product, a single medicine.
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I think it's a bit like a frequency.
People using Rife know that not only one frequency will kill the pathogen.
The pathogen has many 'faces', the pleomorphic forms, so in no way one frequency will kill them all!
Think of each nosode dilution having a different frequency, and will then treat a different problem.
Like that, you can understand why is it better to go through all possible frequencies to 'eradicate' / treat the WHOLE problem, instead of treating one or a few sides of it.
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Dr W used Staufen Pharmaceuticals nosodes. Plus two other vials that he said contained "live bacteria" that were not allowed to leave his office. He said they are only legal in doctor's offices in Germany, but in the US they are only legal in special laboratories, doctors can't even have them.
He said at home we could use blood instead of those two vials because the blood has everything.
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