When I go to bed, my heart rate starts to rise. It is usually close to 80 bpm. My resting heart rate is usually mid 60's.
When my heart is going this fast, I can not sleep. I don't sleep very well normally, but this is something that is definitely making it so I don't sleep.
It has happened occasionally in the past, but it seems to be happening quite often recently.
Any thoughts? Adrenals? More magnesium?
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- ** Most important: Is there a smart phone in your bedroom? Any computers, notepads or any electronics? A charger? **
If so, they should be banished if smaller. Larger ones like a TV, the power strip should be turned off or the TV unplugged so as not to have any power surging through at happens even if off and still connected to power source.
Even unplugged or power shut off, TVs and computers still have all that flame retardant and plastic that off-gases. If in your bedroom, a fresh air flush before bedtime might help a little bit.
Still, best to have the best air quality in bedroom as possible. Be wary even of new decorative items for most textiles have flame retardant coating.
Cell phones and pads are the worst for brain and heart function. I cannot stress strongly enough how very important it is to be far away from these things when sleeping.
Were you able to turn off TV, computer, etc. All electronic light sources off and power sources off, too, an hour prior to bedtime and maybe just read a short story, look at nice photos or listen to gentle music - without a headset but with ears just open to sound from a small stereo a ways away from you7
SPECIAL GLASSES that block blue light can be found at www.mercola.com - he has an article about them.
Qigong, gentle yoga, looking out at night sky, drawing or other soothing hobbies are good, too.
Is your room as dark as it can be?
Do you have any scents on bed linens? Use dryer sheets, any air fresheners, etc? Scented personal care products?
Any new textiles in your room? Plastics?
Is your room as dark as it can be?
Any coffee - or black or green tea since 3 pm?
Have you tried progressive relaxation / diaphragmatic breathing? Forced yawns into that can move along the relaxation. That often helps me. -
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- You ask about taking "more magnesium" - that depends on what kind and amount you currently use. It needs to be 3 -4 x a day - always in divided doses. Too much at one time can harm kidneys and it does not hang around long so that's why it has to be steady throughout the day.
See post: Caution: Aspartate; Glutamine; and Phenylalanine (3 excitatory amino acids that can be wrong for us when added as supplements, beyond a normal dietary level)
Seaweed has its own natural MSG and can be very excitatory
Excitotoxins; MSG; Aspartame; & "Natural" Flavors (that are not likely natural at all). -
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- Any herbal or vitamin supplements that promise to "boost energy" - at any time during the day. Some of those can be full of the wrong things and then bother us more at night.
"Boost" is a term for any products that needs clarification in light of links in post above.
There is a device / computer program designed to measure dysutonomia, very simple, non-invasive.
Check Heart Rate Variability tests.
Many practitioners use that here in Germany / Switzerland to see the level of dysautonomia of patients.
This can give them an idea of the state of health of each patient.
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- Good Brussels put more detail to the rhythm part of it.
Dysautonomia is pretty much an effect that (most) everyone with lyme experiences at some time. For some, that time is longer than for others. It's good that Brussels posted that in case you'd not seen this before.
This can have various symptoms or sets of symptoms - and some overlap. POTS and NMH (neurally mediated hypotension) are two areas that many with lyme experience. The adrenal thread has more detail on what can help. In fact, adrenals are responding to lyme's toxicity and that's a big part of why the heart goes all over the place sometimes.
Liver support also required in addition to adrenal support to help reduce toxicity.
The various nervous systems really get all tangled up from lyme, too.
Be sure to talk with your LLMD about this for more specific things to help. They might order a TILT TABLE TEST - or other measures in case it's more complex -- yet there are still things to help along the way.
No matter what all is going on, or why, having a cell phone, pad or computer in one's bedroom is the number one thing to consider - and if so, to banish. -
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- Wonder if anything rings a chime for your "that might help" basket.
Another thought: some Rx can cause heart rate changes. Especially -- some kind of initials or numbers. there's a specific term here that I can't remember.
It's in here, somewhere, though, about some drugs causing a "blip" of sorts - more in some folks than others - with the electrical pulses of the heart. One antibiotic that is often used for lyme can do this, too.
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Thank you. Lots to think about. I will try putting all electronics in another room. Sometimes I like to use my phone for guided meditation when I can't sleep.
It comes and goes. It isn't every night, and I haven't changed much lately. I don't take anything stimulating because I am so sensitive to stimulants.
I've been tested for POTS and nothing significant there, but the majority of my issues revolve around the nervous systems....
Thank you. I'm going to spread out my magnesium a bit.
I'm wondering if it happens on the nights I take melatonin. That's the only thing that varies in my routine.
Anyone know much about melatonin and heart rate?
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Oh and I do have the blue light blocking glasses. They are pretty cool.😂
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"-Patient can have heart racing (autonomically mediated) usually short runs of tachycardia or premature ventricular contractions (PVCs), often at night, with a normal cardiac evaluation.
-Can have other autonomic nervous system disruptions causing shortness of breath (SoB), orthostatic hypotension."
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Hi, I noticed you are from Mass. I am too and was just diagnosed with babesia. Did you have this and also do you see Dr. H in Mass?
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