Tincup
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This is quite disturbing.
Long list of some of the vaccines using aborted fetus cells.
Biotech's Dark Promise: Involuntary Cannibalism for All
QUOTE- "A good portion of the CDC's immunization schedule requires the use of these [aborted] human fetus-originated vaccines, and these include:
rubella, measles, mumps, rabies, polio, smallpox, hepatitis A, chickenpox, and herpes zoster.
Additionally, so-called "abortion tainted vaccines"... are in the developmental pipeline, including:
"flu, Respiratory Syncytial and parainfluenza viruses, HIV, West Nile virus, Ebola, Marburg and Lassa, hepatitis B and C, foot and mouth disease, Japanese encephalitis, dengue, tuberculosis, anthrax, plague, tetanus and malaria."
Fetal tissue has been used since the 1930s for vaccine development, and more recently to help advance stem cell research and treatments for degenerative diseases such as Parkinson's disease.
Researchers typically take tissue samples from a fetus that has been aborted (under conditions permitted by law) and grow cells from the tissue in Petri dishes.
Many of the uses of fetal tissue -- and much of the debate -- are not new.
"It's just that the public is finding out about it," said Insoo Hyun, associate professor of bioethics at Case Western Reserve University.
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Keebler
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- There are multiple ingredients to consider regarding health and safety:
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My little brother or sister was aborted in NYS shortly after abortion became legal.
The thought that I could conceivably be vaccinated with my dead siblings cells is horrifying to me.
My sibling was denied a chance to live, and I was denied the joy of having a younger sibling. My sibling would be about 46 years old today, if my math is right.
The horrible pain some of these fetuses go through when their little arms, fingers, toes and legs are snipped off--- and their head-- some with full heads of hair--- is brutally pierced to ensure that they are not born alive --- is nothing short of satanic. Some are born with screams on their little faces.
If women really understood the mass murder they are committing they would stop killing what is most precious.
Using or selling aborted fetal cells or body parts is evil and uncivilized.
Sadly, women are responsible for the greatest mass murder in history.
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Keebler
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- The issue with this thread should be limited to the ingredients in vaccines. As to the medical complications that a woman might suffer at any point, that is between her and her medical advisers.
Not every woman - or even girls in their teens or younger - had any say at all in becoming pregnant. Not every woman is able to go through childbirth nor everyone who has previously blessed with a child is able to duplicate that.
The U.S. has the highest rates of complications and deaths in women from childbirth of all developed countries. While many come through fine, many do not. It's can be a life-threatening experience at any stage for some.
There are so many considerations that we just cannot know. I trust women to make the right medical decisions for themselves, in private. For most, it's a heart wrenching matter. Simply heart wrenching.
Again, here - in this thread - it's best to focus on the safety and health of vaccine ingredients. This is not the place to debate matters of philosophy or religion. -
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This dr gave a very nice lecture on heart diseases and how drugs cause them (the same drugs people take against high blood pressure are CAUSING deaths, not preventing them).
He shows papers after papers proving that.
Well, in the end (last minutes), he speaks about the 'new flu vaccine'. The video is from 2013, so it was talking from a flu vaccine for 2014, probably.
Well, this flu vaccine was made on 4 'new' mediums: - green monkey kidney (mono-cell lines, meaning, these are neoplastic cells = cancer causing)
- dog kidney cells (mortal cell line)
- caterpillar larvae ( this is brand new!!! What an innovation)
- aborted human fetus.
Yep, you gain ALL those DNAs with JUST the price of one flu shot!!
Never ever tested in humans at that time (now, millions of people must be walking around with caterpillar larvae DNA).
What would we do without science?
I'd rather get 10x the flu than these shots... I'm going to try to find the nice video of the dr explaining how they CULTURE vaccines in chicken eggs, in human fetuses and caterpillar larvae.
Sounds exciting!
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- Medical treatment must be available to manage possible anaphylactic reactions following Flublok.
- If Guillain Barre syndrome has occureed within 6 weeks of receipt of a prior influenza vaccine, the decision to give Flublok should be based on careful consideration of potential benefits and risks.
Read that yourself. Page 1 of Package Insert.
They do know about Guillain Barre Syndrome caused by flu shots.
------------- Page 11 comes the caterpillar:
'It contains purified hamagglutinin (HA) proteins produced in a continuous insect cell line that is derived from cells of the fall armyworm, Spodoptera frugiperda (related to moths, caterpillars, butterfiles)'.
Have you read this right?
Yes, if you got this flu vaccine, you were injected with proteins and DNAs from an insect.
In my opinion, this is even more awful than aborted human fetuses.
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There a no cells or and significant DNA grown from the cell lines described above in vaccines. It's an issue that creates large differences in opinion. Brussels info above is correct. For me, that some benefit comes as a result of the vaccines that have saved many lives and improved the health of millions versus cells that would have been destroyed otherwise acts as some consolation.
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quote:Originally posted by Keebler: - The issue with this thread should be limited to the ingredients in vaccines. As to the medical complications that a woman might suffer at any point, that is between her and her medical advisers.
Not every woman - or even girls in their teens or younger - had any say at all in becoming pregnant. Not every woman is able to go through childbirth nor everyone who has previously blessed with a child is able to duplicate that.
The U.S. has the highest rates of complications and deaths in women from childbirth of all developed countries. While many come through fine, many do not. It's can be a life-threatening experience at any stage for some.
There are so many considerations that we just cannot know. I trust women to make the right medical decisions for themselves, in private. For most, it's a heart wrenching matter. Simply heart wrenching.
Again, here - in this thread - it's best to focus on the safety and health of vaccine ingredients. This is not the place to debate matters of philosophy or religion. -
You are entitled to your personal secular opinion as you have outlined above. I would never try to shut your opinion down, even if I believe your belief is immoral.
I just wanted to share that I would be horrified if I were vaccinated with my aborted sibling's "ingredients"-- i.e. her precious tissue. My sibling lost a chance at life in part so that others could take advantage of her "ingredients" in their vaccines. She was a life that I would have loved--- not an "ingredient." Her blood is probably crying out for justice..
I know she would have been so cute and lovable-- but today she may well be a vaccine "ingredient."
I also do not want a murdered human being's DNA put in my bloodstream via a vaccine. Foreign DNA can cause major allergies, and to millions of us-- it is immoral. It is a form of organ transplant by deception..
Humanism is a religion which states that human beings know what is best--- and that the creator of life does not know anything.
Snail darters receive more legal protection than a fully formed human being.. Something is wrong with this picture.
The market for tissue from 20 + week fully formed fetuses is growing and profitable.
This is my personal opinion to which I am entitled. You are entitled to your personal opinion.
Let's not shut each other down-- especially since our opinions are relevant to the vaccine debate..
The sad truth is that Planned Parenthood does actively profit off of, and sell aborted children's organs--- precious livers, pineal glands, intact brains, bones, thyroids and fetal cells for vaccines. Its all documented on youtube.
PP actively markets abortion to poor women, and then sells the dead children to vaccine companies ---- all for hard cash.
This is a conflict of interest-- which many believe is immoral-- and its also deceptive to those who are unaware that their vaccine may include fetal tissue, a form of organ transplant.
The majority of the 50+ million abortions performed in America to date have been done for convenience' sake--- not because of life threatening complications to child rape victims. For example, all of the abortions in my family were committed for convenience sake-- and today my family is much smaller because of this death culture.
In my humble (and relevant) opinion --- NO vaccine ingredient should be comprised of murdered human beings -- for the reasons I have stated above..
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Keebler
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- "PP actively markets abortion to poor women, and then sells the dead children to vaccine companies ---- all for hard cash. " (end quote from post above)
Absolutely not true.
Some other statements are also not true. It's one thing to voice opinion yet another to make false statements. There are various false statements in post above. Here's a correction to just one:
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