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anyone tried this? I tried it and felt awful afterwards.I have epstein barr and lyme..dont want to try again..
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I take liposomal Vit C, and this is even stronger than IV Vit C!!
It can hit like a hammer. You gotta start slow.
I think the secret of vitamin C is to do a multi C approach, not a single C approach, meaning, you got to mix other forms of vitamin C into your regimen, and that spread during the day, so that the killing effect of IV Vit C and Lipo Vit C will be easier...
Read this short article to understand why...
For some reason I can't post the link to the article.
Just google "Multi-C protocol dr Levy". The article is called
"Reversing disease with the Multi-C protocol"
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"The synergistic effect of a multi-C protocol, by dr Levy
In most significant chronic diseases, multiple areas of the body have increased oxidative stress and decreased stores of vitamin C and other antioxidants.
Since the goal of vitamin C therapy is to neutralize as much oxidative stress and damage as possible, taking as many different types of vitamin C as possible can give the positive clinical results not seen with one, or even two types of vitamin C.
2. Sodium ascorbate daily up to or reaching bowel tolerance (C-flush)
(Brussels: this cleans extracellular, blood, lymph, urine)
3. Ascorbyl palmitate, 1 to 3 grams orally daily
(Brussels: it acts like a fat soluble vitamin, going to fat soluble deposits, unlike 'normal' vitamin C).
4. Intravenous vitamin C (sodium ascorbate or buffered ascorbic acid), 25 to 150 grams, depending on body size.
Sometimes daily initially, and often several times weekly to monthly depending upon clinical circumstances.
(Brussels, this raises the level of Vit C very fast!).
The multi-C protocol is especially effective because:
1. The liposomes put vitamin C inside (intracellular) the diseased cells and the circulating immune cells without the consumption of energy.
2. The oral sodium ascorbate continues to saturate the extracellular areas with vitamin C while neutralizing the toxic products of poor digestion, shared by everyone to a greater or lesser degree.
(Brussels: if you feel miserable after IV Vit C, it means you need still a lot of SA during the day, multiple doses, to be able to cope with die off / herxes too)
3. The ascorbyl palmitate gets the normally water-soluble vitamin C into fat-soluble areas.
4. The intravenous vitamin C gets temporarily astronomical blood concentrations of vitamin C throughout the body."
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" Additional factors come into play, however, when treating chronic infections and chronic degenerative diseases, like LYME , cancer, and coronary heart disease.
While I feel that access to quality lypo-C is the best option if only one option is available, I strongly recommend motivated individuals take as many types of vitamin C that they can if they are not getting satisfactory results with just one form.
However, as is reflected on the multi-C protocol, using both lypo-C orally and vitamin C intravenously, along with regular vitamin C and ascorbyl palmitate, can have what appears to be a synergistic effect over just upping the dose of one form to as high as possible for as long as possible."
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"In order to successfully combat Lyme, one needs to employ different strategies for the different stages.
During acute flares, high- dose intravenous Vitamin C administered under medical supervision allows the blood levels to attain a high saturation point of the vitamin, which can effectively kill the spirochete and possibly the cystic forms.
Whether it kills the CWD forms is less certain.
During maintenance periods, most dosing can be done orally with liposomal Vitamin C.
Liposomal C is an effective tool against ENCYSTED forms as it has been demonstrated to penetrate readily through cell walls and even into organelles within the cells (Levy 2002).
Liposomal C is made by wrapping a phospholipid around the vitamin and creating a hydrophilic layer very similar to cell membranes.
Liposomal Vitamin C has about five times the bioavailability of regular oral forms.
My own clinical experience with patients is that oral doses are needed in order to deal with the endotoxins Bb emits when dying.
Vitamin C has a remarkable ability to bind with endotoxins of all sorts and render them harmless.
.... Even if a patient does not do intravenous Vitamin C, in milder cases liposomal C can be very useful in driving LYME disease into latency and in managing the Herxheimer effects caused by herbal or antibiotic therapy.
If spirochetes are dying an individual may be taking up to 60 g of liposomal C with no ill effects at all.
Once the acute phase is over, Vitamin C therapy can become oral only, although I often suggest one IV treatment of 125 g a month as a safety measure for several years.
I do not know if one can truly ever say that they have eradicated Lyme disease due to its ability to survive in a dormant state for long periods.
But as long as a person has a method for remaining asymptomatic, then they have, for all intents and purposes, succeeded in defeating the disease.
Vitamin C therapy can provide this, and with a minimum of cost and hardship."
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