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terv
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What does it mean if the abx alleviate symptoms but you don't herx? It seems like I would be killing something if abx make me feel better but there should be a herx afterwords.
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It's actually a good thing, a better thing when there is no herxheimer reaction. It's best to feel better and I'm really glad to hear of this positive action.

Herxheimer reactions are highly over-rated as a badge of "required" suffering. They are best to avoid, or at least to minimize by certain supportive measures prior to taking medications.

It may be that if you were / are doing supportive methods, they helped your body stay stronger. Could be you just got lucky.

It might be that the doctor was careful in matching the Rx, the dose, the combinations (?) or even just the timing with your particular body at this point in time. All the variables were in your favor.

And, since you are feeling better, there is no doubt, it's a good thing. This does happen for many along the way when the right medicine is finally found / obtained, etc.
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What does it mean if the abx alleviate symptoms but you don't herx? It seems like I would be killing something if abx make me feel better but there should be a herx afterwords.

Antibiotics are anti inflammatory.
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I should have mentioned this in first post.

I am on maintenance of 1 week a month. Told LLMD I couldnt take it anymore and needed a break. I gradually started feeling better. But then cognitive issues and fatigue came back and I couldn't stand it anymore and went back on at 10 weeks. Everything improved with no herx

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Antibiotics are anti inflammatory.
Does this mean if I took anti-inflamatories my cognitive and fatigue would improve?
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Good point that many abx are also anti-inflammatory so you could be seeing good results for other good reasons in addition to help against lyme.

To answer your question:

Any efforts that help reduce inflammation safely can help reduce cognitive and physical fatigue.

Anti-inflammatory action, alone, might not be enough with infections are on board but it's a "required" part of any treatment. And it also requires many facets of attention.

Inflammation causes lots - and lots - of trouble for any body.

However, many (most?) of the pharmaceutical anti-inflammatory drugs can have some terrible side effects, starting with damaging the lining of the GI tract / stomach, etc.

NSAIDS (non-steroidal anti-inf.) can cause leaky gut and that leads to serious damage.

Ibuprofen can be really hard on kidneys; acetaminophen really hard on the liver. Even a normal doses for some people.

An anti-inflammatory diet, clean air, good water - and avoiding things that cause / contribute to inflammation for YOUR body is a good idea, though.

Of course,

soy, corn, gluten and dairy, sugar, processed foods

are the first food groups to consider avoiding but also those that contain too many oxalates (certain vegetables) and lectins (mostly in grains, beans).

Lectins - search that term at YouTube with "Paul Mason"

Oxalates - search at YouTube with "Elliot Overton"

You might also need to avoid Histamines and Salicylates. (sp?)

You might need to assess your foods, even if "good" for any that might cause your particular body trouble.


Canola oil and the like: Seed / Vegetable oils, too, are very toxic and cause terrible inflammation. At YouTube, search "Nina Teicholz" + "Vegetable Oils"


Certain herbs can be excellent help also with other proactive measures.

. Berberine is one that comes to mind and is fairly easy to take. It really helps me a lot regarding many symptoms, especially inflammation.

OLE is also helpful for many folks.


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=121034;p=0

BERBERINE – LINKS SET


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=030549;p=0

OLIVE LEAF EXTRACT – LINKS


If you are on a treatment plan, be sure to consult with your LLMD first, before taking any supplements. And discuss with them "ways they might address ______ "
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