springshowers
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SO Blue.. Was it just a surprise ?
For you?
What will you do? Dont you have two rife machines now? Have you been using them at all?
Thats a lot of machines..
Let us know how it goes.
I might be wrong about what I said about you having two rife machines.. but that is just what I somehow remember you saying..
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Hey guys -- question -- for the frequencies all posted here -- do these apply to all machines we are discussing or not? Mine is EMEM DT and I don't have it yet. I'm looking for frequencies for the Fry mystery bug, bartonella spp, and mycoplasmas in particular.
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CD57--- i've been doing a Bartonella channel from the CAFL list, which seems to give me the feeling that i think it's working: frx:
364 379 645 654 786 840 842 844 846 848 850 857 967 6878 634 696 716 1518--- however, i run that as groups on a GB-4000; i think the EMEM doesn't do groups. It would take a lot of time to run all those separately. But Dan says the EMEM adds its own harmonics, which the GB-4000 doesn't do.
Springshowers says 72 and 120 for Fry Labs mystery bug. I didn't get a reaction to those, yet i did get a photo from Fry Labs showing a ring-form in or on a red blood cell.
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I wasn't feeling a reaction to 612 or 2016 recently, so i started doing sweeps. I've done that several times and i do feel reactions to those. I'm doing sweep 611-613, and sweep 2015-2017. ----
I have information for R62 about hypercoagulation--- too bad she's incommunicado--- what happened to her?
On p 353 of Nenah Sylver's book, she quotes Dr Richard Loyd saying that treatment with an F-Scan, often at 62,000 Hz and 63,000 Hz, cleaned up hypercoagulation in the blood so that the RBC under a microscope weren't all clumping together.
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quote:Originally posted by tick battler: Wow Metallic, how exciting....It guess it's time to do some research!
Keep us posted!
By the way, have you tried rife yet?
tickbattler
I still have not. I'm finishing up loose ends.
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quote:Originally posted by springshowers: [b] SO Blue.. Was it just a surprise ?
For you?
It was surprising, but it isn't for me. It's for my girlfriend. Indirectly it's a potential option to consider. I still plan on pursuing Rife until further notice.
quote: What will you do? Dont you have two rife machines now? Have you been using them at all?
I own one, an EMEM3D2, and my girlfriend owns the Pulsed Technologies contact device. Now the Bionic will arrive shortly.
quote: Thats a lot of machines..
Let us know how it goes.
I might be wrong about what I said about you having two rife machines.. but that is just what I somehow remember you saying.. [/qb]
S'ok, I share these machines to "some" degree when Erica visits.
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All of the frequency machines being discussed here are essentially the same as far as frequencies that are used.
They operate off of the same principle, so the same frequencies are interchangeable between different brands of machines.
It is my opinion from using quite a few different Lyme frequencies, that 2016 Hz is probably the only frequency needed for Lyme. It should be one of the frequencies used for sure. There still could be an even better one, so I have no problem with using others, but 2016 is the best I have used so far.
I used to recommend 612 Hz and it still does kill Spirochetes very well, but 2016 Hx appears to kill everything 612 Hz does and more.
2016 does need to be run in a sweep also. My best guess at this time is 5 Hz above and below 2016. It has become apparent that the Lyme exists in a range, and this sweep does hit Lyme from my experience.
Without this thread, I may have never found that 2016 Hz was such a critical frequency. Thank you all for that. It has been extremely important in my results.
Those with a GB-4000 should consider programming a Harmonic autoprogram as I have described earlier and start with short run times, working up to longer ones.
I have made a great deal of progress using this method for a month. Far more than in the past year. The harmonic autoprogram should use gating and be run in the channel sweep mode for best results. I do not think the gating rate is too important, but I have been using 75, only because it is as high as my machine will go. Newer models go higher.
The Bionic is a whole different technology, but that operates off of light frequency. Not directly related to Rife inspired devices, but some of the effects could overlap.
This thread has been what I needed to break through previous barriers. I really do appreciate it.
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Dad
Wow thats a huge statement and wonderful to hear that you have made more progreass in the past month than in the whole past year!!
Thats so great..
I think that this thread has become quite a collection and it is still growing.
I so encourage everyone to keep on posting and adding your specific trials and ideas and responses.. good or bad..
its all a learning experience and I have learned from all of you as well.. ....
Also .. posting any other resources and sites.
The 2016 came from reading on another site and then I posted some of those links and quotes here.
If it were not for Dans experience and his new trials and posting then that information might have just been gone on by. I am too new myself to always grab onto information that I myself even come across.
So another great point as to why working together on this site is a great resource.
I have noticed as I read through this thread that of course we all react to different things differently. Of course we have different bodies and different loads in types and amounts.
But the basic trails for LYME and its CO INFECTIONS I have not found anywhere else on the net. If anyone has any other resources of lyme patients trying to rife and sharing that would be great if those sites were shared as well.
I was asked recently and I only know of the rife forum and it is not lyme specific even though there are a couple lyme people there.
Thanks everyone..
Keep on...
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Rife is amazing.
My dog had ear mites. Took her to the vet, we put meds in her ears for almost a month. The mites came back a few weeks after stopping the medication, she started to lose hair around her right eye this time and it was progressing rapidly. She was shaking her head constantly which indicates that she had the ear mites again.
We decided to use rife to see if we could get rid of them. I've been using rife on her for 20 minutes every 3 days for about 3 weeks and she no longer shakes her head and the hair is coming back around her eye. I'm using 970 via muscle testing. We weren't using anything else to deal with the mites except rife.
For mycoplasma for myself, my herbalist tested these frequencies. 19, 777, 6600, 7270
She also has me doing these frequencies.
retroviruses 7270, 880, 8450, 8020
ebv 10,000 172, 274, 667, 825, 1013, 7660, 1865
echo virus 625, 922
cmv 656, 7958
papilloma 1051, 767
and a general antiseptic 1550
I was in a big flare before that but these seem to have brought me back out of it. I'm doing them every 3 days. She expects that the times between sessions will lengthen in another week or so and I'll need them every 4+ days apart.
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Spring, re toenail fungus--- the GB-4000 list doesn't have a listing for Toenail Fungus or Onychomycosis, so i thought they didn't have anything for it.
Now i find they do--- it's under "Trichophytie nagel"--- 3 whole channels of numbers! All different from your BCX Ultra numbers.
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I just want to echo what has been stated in some recent posts. I cannot express how helpful this thread has been to me when it comes to using my rife machine.
I am so thankful that everyone takes time out of their busy day to answer questions and post info on their rife sessions.
So THANK YOU!
All of the frequencies that I have been using, I have gotten from this thread. With every post, I learn something new.
I am currently using a DT machine, but would really like to be able to run groups & sweeps that a lot of you are talking about.
I am excited to soon purchase the Ultimate B3 in order to achieve longer rife sessions & run bigger groups of frequencies.
I have been stuck at 85% -90% for some time now. My only remaining symptom is fatigue. My gut is telling me that I am missing something in my treatment.
I am thinking that I should use the retro virus frequencies or the DNA frequencies for XMRV or the EBV frequencies.
I currently run frequencies for Lyme, Bart, Babs, Parasites & Malaria, and Detox for liver, lymph & kidney.
Does anyone else have any other suggestions?
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TerryK -- thanks for posting those numbers, I think I am going to try them out.
Polly -- Thanks for the hypercouglation numbers, I will be adding them to my list as well.
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Summer---- There are other ways to deal with hypercoagulation! I don't know if rife is the best way! I don't know how long the un-coagulated state from rife lasts!
If you take nattokinase, for example, you might have more basis for knowing how long you'll be normally coagulated--- i've read that nattokinase lasts 8 to 12 hours in the body.
If you are seriously hypercoagulated, a hematologist could give you some advice.
I don't know anything about validity or safety of the numbers i posted!
---Polly Polygonum ---or Nilufar Knotweed
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For fatigue, I would run some Strep frequencies.
Strep infection is real common in even healthy people.
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Question -- when people here post frequencies, are these applicable to ALL machines or do you specify? I'm not my EMEM (dont have it) will run all of these.
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Has anyone seen babs improve using rife?
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Some machines may not have the ability to run extremely high frequencies that are sometimes used, but most of the frequencies in this thread are useful and effective with most machines. The Doug Coil, I believe, still does not climb beyond 2K or 2.5. Still, that allows all the typical numbers. I bet you could get 2016kH out of the coil.
Anyone know the general limitations in frequency range for the most popular machines?
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Polly.> Thanks for those nail numbers.. I would be interested in hearing how it goes? So you did not have a reaction this time like you did before with those bumps and problems after rife with the new numbers?
I hope it works out ..
I added those numbers to my "to try" list.. which is growing lately.. : )
Thanks Terry for those numbers too you listed.
What has people used for Strep?
??
I think its a great idea and I have yet to try it and I know it has been talked about on and off here and in other places to remember about strep.
Fatigue is holding on for me as well.... and pain..
So .. since i have been sick for so long I know as my body is treated that my body needs some time to adjust and for things to normalize. I think if it was all immediate I would not even believe it anyway..
Keep on keeping on....
Glad that this thread is so supportive and loving too.
Polly. I am still working on the homestead and well.. it does not look good.
but as I said to my mother today who said "it will all end up being ok"
I said to her "it is ok now" I have to live that way and not with that "it will be" concept.
For me that is just the mindset I have to keep.
Thanks for asking and thinking of me. It is hard to deal with any disruption or stress with this disease so I am trying my hardest to stay focused and to not allow myself to stress.
I keep repeating to myself .. that stress does not get me anything but inflammation which equals more pain.. and is surely does not bring any results in life..
So.. no stress..
Any frequencies suggested for stress relief?
You know no matter how much we tell ourselves we are not going to stress our bodies take on some anyway... .
I have a program called General Well Being. .. that is supposed to calm the body and brain ...
It helps a bit... mostly for the next couple hours so I do that one sometimes before bedtime.
We have not talked about things like that .. that I think rife can surely help. Stress.. Insomnia.. Inflammation..Tension.. Pain.. etc
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I was just reading my new Lyme and Rife book tonight. It is from 2004 so I assume a lot has changed since then.
Question: book says the machines discussed therein are not known to be effective against the coinfections (maybe not in 2004. He also says that herbal abx will hinder progress. So: -- who is treating with success the co's with Rife, or are you using herbals and/or abx also and having luck? My problem is that something grows back *fast* and I need to keep it at bay while I work on the Lyme. Its' probably the bart/Fry/myco bug, it's very debilitating (brain).
Input appreciated!
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Polly -- thanks for your suggestion about nattokinase. I was on Heprain for 7 months. It was supposed to help with fatigue, but I didn't notice a change. I have been off for 2 months.
Dan -- Thanks for the suggestion of running strep frequencies for the fatigue. I will add this to my list.
annxyzz -- I have been rifing for babs 2 times a week, and I think that I have seen improvement. I sure do herx when I use the frequenices.
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quote:Originally posted by CD57: [b] I was just reading my new Lyme and Rife book tonight. It is from 2004 so I assume a lot has changed since then.
Actually, I haven't noticed that. From what I've observed the machines are still basically the same, except now Laptop interfaces are more common for running frequencies. I still think the plasma tube devices are best.
quote: Question: book says the machines discussed therein are not known to be effective against the coinfections (maybe not in 2004. He also says that herbal abx will hinder progress. So: -- who is treating with success the co's with Rife, or are you using herbals and/or abx also and having luck?
This is a very good question. The answer is that yes, there is success for some people treating Babesia from what I've been hearing. I have also heard about success with Mycoplasma infections. I do think that antibiotics impairs Rife therapy, but this is only theoretical in my mind. However, I believe Rife will still work while using antibiotics or other chemical agents which toxify the environment for the infection. Since many parts of our body are difficult for the antibiotics to penetrate, I suspect doing an "Overlap" of Rife and antibiotics can be useful for cases that need a transition. To get off antibiotics, this gradual progression may be key.
Simply put: Rife will kill less effectively but it will still kill some, thus it may take longer to get better.
quote: My problem is that something grows back *fast* and I need to keep it at bay while I work on the Lyme. Its' probably the bart/Fry/myco bug, it's very debilitating (brain).
I would probably try using your conventional treatments that you're used to, and add the Rife to it. See how you respond over a month or so. It's an idea to see whether you have Herxheimer reactions that are present, but perhaps not severe, especially if you're targetting Co-infections instead of Lyme.
Remember, the theory behind Lyme and Rife is different than that of co-infections. Co-infections may not change form in the presence of treatments, so the "cyst and L-form" concept might not apply. This means you can try treating faster as long as you pick frequencies that won't antagonize the Lyme. Maybe try a Babesia frequency or Fry Bug -- stick with one or two, and give it whatever time period you feel is best.
-------------------- I am not a physician, so do your own research to confirm any ideas given and then speak with a health care provider you trust.
Polly, I would like to know how the toe fungus frx work out for you, too.
Fatigue - have you checked your pH? I know mine is low, so I am going to have some baking soda tonight. I hope that is the source of my fatigue, because before Christmas I was doing so much better in that area. I should've recovered from Christmas by now.
I rifed for 2 mins. using 2016 and didn't herx and 2 mins. using 10,000 and didn't experience any unpleasant symptoms (or improvements) from detoxing.
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You can increase the time, if you are quite sure you are not going to have a delayed reaction to the earlier treatment.
I have treated Babesia, but I am not 100% sure my wife had it. She had symptoms of it, and the symptoms went away quickly with treatment. She did react very strongly to these frequencies.
It would come back months later, and I would treat it again and it would disappear for a few more months.
The last time I used the DNA Babesia frequencies and I have not seen any symptoms of this since.
I just used the listed CAFL frequencies for Babesia the first couple of times. I never identified any particular frequency that works well for this, but ran all of them.
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I see no evidence that rife is less useful while on abx and there is certainly no proof of that. I know that the author of the book postulates that but I'm not at all convinced that he is correct. I've used the machine both on and off of abx. I didn't notice much difference. I can still get rid of the burning feet in one session of rife whether on or off abx.
The key is getting the right frequencies for your particular population of pathogens. The frequencies will likely be different depending on whether you are on or off abx.
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Terry,
I'm curious, what frequency gets rid of the burning feet? Sorry if you already mentioned this earlier! Do you think this is a bart symptom?
Thanks, tickbattler
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tick battler, I would assume the frequencies needed by an individual would vary depending on which pathogen is causing the nerve damage or whatever is causing the burning feet for that person.
I use muscle testing and so frequencies vary but the frequency for wolhynia fever (a type of rickettsia) is always involved for me. It is 547.
I also often need zygomycosis (fungal infection) frequencies - one or more of these 942, 623, 733
AND
Zearalenone (a potent mycotoxin found in grains) - one or more of these 4978.71 and 247.88
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Thanks Terry! Very interesting. I just read some things about rickettsia...it is not mentioned much but I think more of us have this than we know. I read some things about rickettsia by Dr. Jardin who finds it is the cause of many chronic fatigue-like illnesses. She pulses abx to get rid of it.
By the way, does anyone have D.T.'s telephone number? I misplaced it and need to inquire about my rife machine!
Thanks,
tickbattler
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What a cool thread this has become!
The last time I posted I felt awful from the long run I did last time. I'm feeling better symptom wise but I can't shake this fatigue and it's absolutely crushing. I did not have this before my last session. I'm not sure what to make of it.
I've been really lazy with my diet and supplements lately and I think this may be a factor. I typically take turmeric, milk thistle, high dose C , multi-vitamin and digestive enzymes. I haven't taken any of this stuff in about 6 weeks - maybe that's contributing. Anyways, happy rifing!
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Please be careful and make sure you wait ample time before assuming you had "no reaction"
For me the detox and positive reactions happen faster such in immediate to hours or that day...
Negative reactions of herxes and increase symptoms or new symptoms or reactions from the treatment usually happen for me more than 24 hours later and usually 48 hours and sometimes 72 hours.
IF I make it past 3 days I usually can assume then that I had no reaction..
THis still is after rifing only one time a week at first for months and could track that I never had a reactoin past that 3 day mark.
WE are all different... But .. just a reminder to make sure you do know.. you have to test it out and I would recommend at least no more than 1 x a week to start if not 1 x every two weeks..
I have heard of some who herx even later than I..
Sadly you do have to put in the time of testing even if it feels like you have to wait a lot inbetween to really see how "you" will react..
It does take a lot of time and patience. .but I think it is well worth it. OTherwise it is hard to tell what is going on and what is what... etc.
If I ever did DNA or make other changes I would again back off frequency of treatments.
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Thanks - I got D.T's number!
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I read something fascinating--- about the F-Scan:
Nenah Sylver writes :
Able to analyze which frequencies the person needs, it scans the body for resonating frquencies, or "hits", and then delivers them to the user.
---"The Rife Handbook" by Nenah Sylver, p.352
Does this F-Scan really work?
It's priceless if it does work!
I'd like to know how the F-Scan agrees with someone's muscle testing or other tests.
---Polly Polygonum ---or Nilufar Knotweed
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It's been 10 days since I used the 2016 frx. Only 2 for the cleansing. It seems like a life time ago. LOL Whoever said it's hard to be patient was right! Don't worry though, I will exercise patience.
Should I run both frx at one session like somebody else posted or is it too soon for me to do that? I don't want running 10,000 hz to interfere with me (waiting time between sessions)running the 2,016.
Should I wait a full 2 wks. or can I do it at 1 wk. this early in Rife treatment? Maybe because I am on abx and have been a long time now (yrs) I can do it once a wk.
With the abx I only ever had mild herxes anywhere from 3-5 days. Unless you count the insomnia that occurred the same night.
With the rife, before abx, I had either mild or no herx. I don't recall how long I used rife, but it wasn't long. I can't find my lil notebook. I believe I didn't get any further than 15 mins and my method wasn't a good one.
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I would think if you are on ABX you likely can treat more often, as you are not going to have much in the way of Spirochetes, and that is what is most easily killed.
I am assuming 10,000 Hz is a frequency for something other than Lyme, so you can run that whenever you want, if that is the case.
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10000 should not interfere with anything that I know of. I actually have that number only on my general cleanses and pain relief etc.
IT is a very nice and calming frequency that is supportive and not out there ti kill...
So you should be able to run that one each time you rife..
Like I have written if you find the supportive numbers and cleansing numbers you can (or I have been able to) run those each time or anytime I want.
It is the killing numbers for the bugs that I have to be careful of rotating and monitoring the times etc.
I tried Strep numbers for the past two times and did not herx but have noticed some improvements in energy and less fatigue...
Just a note.
I have not done it enough to know for sure if that is a direct ongoing connection.
It is that time of the month starting today so I used all my pain relief numbers directly on my abdomen and put the plates on my abdomen and on by back so that the frequencies ran between and into that area more directly. Also running the ray tubes and holding them directly on each side left and right.
I was in so much pain today and after an hour or so of the frequencies I am amazed at the relief. Not fully gone but bearable now. I was near in tears.. As I did the treatment I could feel movement in and around my uterus and it was like gurgling and literally could feel movement in there. Hard to explain. THings were moving that is for sure.. and as they moved it felt as if things were breaking up and breaking down and maybe it was the blood or inflammation. I kept moving the ray tube positions and each time a new feeling and movement directly in that spot.
Pretty amazing I would say.
The first 30 minutes I was just thinking "I at least have to try but maybe rife will not help with such acute pain"
But it did work...
I am not onto a heating bottle just to sooth and follow up... and of course any combination of tretments that help together.. Is always good to try.
I always feel horrible on the day my period starts. It is just the way it is. I knew the minute I woke up this morning it was going to be a bad day and I knew why.. It just is.
Luckily I can pull out of it in one to two days.
It used to be a week to 10 days. So Thats a good sign. >No matter how bad that one or two days is I will take it.
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I'm finally dropping in on this thread - I just started rifing. The number of posts on this thread is daunting - I can't read it all, but I did finally skim. So please forgive me if things I say have already been discussed.
I am off abx now and intend to stay off and focus on rife.
I'm lucky to have met some people who are experienced with the machine I have - GB4000 with amplifier - and they've been coaching me. Thank God because I now get it that this thing is STRONG. Like, nuclear.
I am running it with the amplifier on and with the power output dial turned all the way down to LOWEST setting, for short periods - and I'm having major herxes.
I hope people who get GB4000's will be very careful to start. I was surprised to read that somebody is using it daily - yikes - til I saw that they're not using the amplifier. Phew. It made me worry that people might see that and not realize its with amplifier off, so I will beg everybody - please always state if amplifier is on or off when discussing your treatments. Newbies might read and misunderstand.
I know of people ending up in emergency room from overdoing it with this machine. Sorry, I worry....
That said, I LOVE this thing. Wow. It appears to me I am going to be doing alot of herxing for a long time. That feels right for me.
The first time I used it, amp on, I did 15 minutes of sweeps (a little bit each of alot of frequencies), lowest possible power output. I was ZONKED for 2 days and was still feeling it a week later. Please note! - my experience is not a recommendation to others --
a) I am not a doctor or an expert, and in fact, brand new at this, b) 15 minutes was suggested to me, specifically for me, based on my case of Lyme, by someone really experienced, c) having the amp on might be way too much for other people.
We are all very different. Please do your own homework so you don't hurt yourself.
Oddly, I did have a particularly good day, the day after one of my later treatments, and then over the following days the herx picked up speed til I was in bed all day HURTING on around the 4th/5th days. So, I'd also say, beware the delayed herx.
GB4000 can run groups of frequencies and sweeps so that's what I'm running - no single frequencies yet - could be way too strong if I hit a "live" one, so I'm told.
Wondering if everybody is aware of the frequencies listed in appendix of Rosner's Lyme/Rife book, pg. 163 - lists for specific coinfections and Lyme. I would never have noticed it if someone didn't tell me.
So that's my story for now. Woo hoo and yikes!
Dancer
* My comments are based on my individual experience with my body and my Lyme. I am not an expert by any means. Please educate yourself and talk to other experienced users so you don't hurt yourself. *
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Welcome Dancer, I look forward to reading about your experiences with rife.
SS -- Like you, I suffer with awful menstrual cramps. When I started rifing, I was on Heprain at the time. With Heprain, you are not allowed to take any type of asprin or ibprofen.
The pain was so bad one time, I thought I was going to pass out -- so I took out my machine and rifed for 5 minutes on the Dysmenorrhea setting of 727 & 880.
And what do you know -- my cramps went away. Ever since then, I rife for cramps and it works.
I am excited to hear that your rifing for strep gave you some energy. I am waiting for my new machine to rife for strep. There are so many numbers that it is daunting, and I want to be able to run sweeps with it.
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Beginning progress report on Toenail Fungus frequencies (listed in the GB-4000 manual as Trichophytie Nagel):
so far, some positive indicators.
I've done those frx (which i posted) twice.
I ran those 3 channels on Sunday for a total of 9 minutes, and on Tuesday the same.
The toes have been the same since the first session--- blotchy, but not red all over. That's one improvement.
The other improvement-- there were some sore cracks in the heel and toe ends, that hurt when i put vinegar on , and had me limping. I had to apply fresh aloe several times a day to make the cracks heal for a few hours.
The cracks weren't so sore and open yesterday; i didn't have to apply any aloe. Definite improvement.
----Polly Polygonum -----or Nilufar Knotweed
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Strep is so common in people and its effects are largely unknown. I think it is a good idea to treat for it as just a general practice.
Just my opinion.
Dan
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Or instructions for building a Rife and knowing how much it would cost?
I am trying to get info for an online friend.
Thanks, liz
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Good news guys, the Bionic 880 arrived safely today. So I've got my Rife, and this to get started on. I'm still dragging my feet, but I will get to it.
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The Norirife product has the potential to work, but I do not recommend it to someone who does not have experience with frequency treatments, because it will not work well as it is advertised.
It needs amplification and it also would need a sound card that can accurately produce frequencies in the range you would be using. How is the newby going to overcome these potential problems?
It is deceptive advertising in my opinion.
You are not going to get any kind of effective frequency device for $100.00 period.
If you want to use a software program to monkey around with you can get a limited version of the Frex program for free. It has the same limitations but at least you are not paying for it. If you want the full version it is $30.00
Since you could buy an EMEM near cost anyway, that may be the better option.
Good Luck
Dan
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MB, you're not ready for the Bionic 880 till you get the homeopathic nosodes! You're not going to run it alone, are you?
Wow! Nenah Sylver's book has a whole lot of Candida frequencies and excellent treatment advice. I'nm glad i bought the book, "The Rife Handbook".
What are the copyright rules? I'm not allowed to divulge her lists of candida frequencies, am i? I'd at least have to ask written permission first, i'm sure.
It's a gold mine and i'm going to try them.
---Polly Polygonum ---or Nilufar Knotweed
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If the frequencies are in the CAFL also, they are not proprietary.
If they are not listed, you had better get permission.
Dan
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Polly. I have the book as well. There are no rules around not sharing anything in the book. It is not like the DNA site. IT is a printed book and you can share the numbers amoung friends and others online like this..
What you can not do is copy what she writes and use it as your own words to write your own book or booklet etc. and then ask to be paid for it or distribute it.
The frequencies she writes about are already posts all over and she just has brought the numbers together for us..
Iwas given copies of chapters of her book by people before I bought the book.
Dan. I do not agree with you on this one and do not see why anyone would need permission to give out information in a written book that is just sharing and not for profit..
Its like when you copy a Video for someone .. that is legal.. When you make a copy for profit or various copies and sell them it is illegal.
I have posted frequency numbers she suggests such as her idea that the two numbers 72 and 120 will work for 75 percent of parasites out there.
She probably after hours of research adn reading figured out that those were two common numbers as well as talking to many people who have used the rife for parasites etc.
So that is great information to pass on.. I did not and do no need permission to share it.
She even posts parts of her book on her site... to show you what its like and give you some examples before you buy it.
What is and has become very hard for publishers of books and ebooks and musick is the internet. If you buy and ebook and share it with a friend then it can start getting passed around much more quickly and easier than a real bound book.
That has really hurt the industry and there has had to be adjustments to how they market and how they make their money now.
If there is something I do not know about the legalities would someone please post it ...
THanks
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I was originally going to post this question for TerryK but then I just noticed that Polly mentioned it as well.
So I am just going to copy the message that I was going to send to Terry here, and see if this applies to anyone else.
Hi TerryK,
I just read one of your posts about your cracked heels and how after using rife for a while, your cracked heels got smoother.
The SAME thing happened to me...
I have always had the most dried/cracked heels as well as the side of my toes. My husband was in awe of my feet b/c he couldn't understand how that would happen.
Every month I would get a pedi to try and help it and I would put lotions on my feet then sleep with cotton socks ect...
About two weeks ago, I happen to look at my feet and I couldn't believe how smooth they were. And I started thinking...could this be from rife?
My gut was telling me YES, but I didn't know how to prove it. And I was wondering what frequencies were helping the skin on my feet.
Do you have any idea which frequencies helped? Could it be 10K?
Sorry, I just got so exctied when I read your post, b/c I thought I was crazy.
I really feel these machines have more power than we realize.
Thanks
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quote:Originally posted by pamoisondelune: MB, you're not ready for the Bionic 880 till you get the homeopathic nosodes! You're not going to run it alone, are you?
My girlfriend is the one doing all the research on that. I'm doing all the research on Rife. She'll be the one to help me. I'm pretty strong, I can handle drops down to 25% function usually. I will need to get a solid detox routine down. I feel right now that I may use Cholestapure with Heel Homepatics, Baking Soda (In the water I drink). I'm still up in the air about whether to buy Distilled water and then introduce the trace elements into it or to use filtered water and add the trace minerals. Either way trace minerals are crucial. I'm also juicing fruit and vegetables.
quote: Wow! Nenah Sylver's book has a whole lot of Candida frequencies and excellent treatment advice. I'nm glad i bought the book, "The Rife Handbook".
What are the copyright rules? I'm not allowed to divulge her lists of candida frequencies, am i? I'd at least have to ask written permission first, i'm sure.
It's a gold mine and i'm going to try them.
---Polly Polygonum ---or Nilufar Knotweed ]
You can list the frequencies regardless. She encourages it actually in the book. Sharing the information she says is crucial for the community to recover.
-------------------- I am not a physician, so do your own research to confirm any ideas given and then speak with a health care provider you trust.
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Dan
Your wrote "None of the Rife Labs machines come with the ability to program a sequence of frequencies to run automatically."
Maybe I am not understanding what you mean by this and it is back on page 3 of the thread.
But.. My machine is capable of programing a sequence of frequencies and running it automatically. I think?
Unless I am not understanding what you mean by this?
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I have been asked over and over to give these programs out to people as well as getting feedback that they are very useful esp to those with detox issues and who feel they need that support.
So I am putting it back here at this point to help people find them..
I put these at the end of every single session I do and sometimes at the beginning and at the end. I am at the point where I can increase the times now and want to point out that I started with JUST These programs for a month 2 x a week and upping to 3 times a week before I went to Killing frequencies .. For me this really helped learn the process and watch my reactions and also I had a good response and it helped me make a basis for which to continue and depend on.
Liver Support (1 min each programed) 337-463-574-668-787-803-912-1862-3337-5546
Lymph Support (1 minute each programed) 146-346-428-596-767-982-1078-5176-5443-8846
Kidney Support (1 minute each programed) 248-463-522-622-658-917-1865-3374-516
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Has anyone used freqgen113.exe and if so HOW? thanks...
I tired this thru a small amp and the output to my left and right hand. Not sure if that is how is it supposed to work or not?
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Herxing/reactions seems to be the golden rule here......but what about these bugs that in theory don't cause a herx when they die? How do you know that you are killing them -- you just feel better?
I want to Rife for more than just Lyme -- in fact other infections are likely more problematic -- but those bugs dont necessarily cause a "herx". Thoughts?
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CD57
Yes if the bug does not cause a herx so much you should just feel better.
I have noticed some things causes a herx and some I just feel better.
So track your reactions as you start to treat and that will let you know where your at.
If no change.. Maybe you do not have it at all If herx you may have to feel worse before better andI IF just better right off the bat and onward then you are getting rid or doing something right. keep going : )
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Dan and Spring, my machine Beam Ray will run programs with any number of freqs and it also can be programmed to sweep or pulse each freq.
Pam
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I did not think any of the Rife Labs machines could run automatic sequences of frequencies. Mine does not, but if you have a model that does, I was just unaware of it.
It is a handy feature to have.
Dan
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I am wondering if they are not catching that you are saying from Rife Labs. Not rife machines in general.
That site I saw for Rife Labs seems to be one that is offering them to buy it and they are offering to anyone that wants that domain. Too bad. I wonder what's going on, if the son is going to take up building the machines or not.
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Hey Rifers! I have a question for you.
I ran the four frequencies that DT recommends with his machine last night. Today, my stomach is having the WEIRDEST pains. It's almost like an itch inside my stomach.
Has anybody else experienced this?
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Hi. I was wondering if you could use a rife machine on a young child. Where can I find information on rife machines and pediatric lyme patients? My child is currently on IV zith, Mepron and Minocycline.
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In Sylvers book she says that Rife machines are useful for many kids, but that the parent should be aware that children respond differently than adults and that the parents should monitor the condition and go slowly.
That's all I remember.
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I updated my Rife Frequency list here on Lymenet. Please feel free to add commentary on the Frequencies I have (whether they helped or didn't for that particular problem).
Feel free to give listings of your frequencies as well.
I started a new post/thread to help all us beginners and also help some of you veterans save some time when responding to us newbies.
I am asking for all rifers input so I can put together something to help us all help each other.
Please take the time to visit the post "Rifer's: Favorite freq's......"
I believe it will be a valuable tool for all of us but, I need all of your input. Please take some time, write the freq you most value and have seen the greatest benefit and how long and how often to get someone started.
Thank you for all your help Blessings Dr.Dave
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More about Toenail Fungus:
I did the 3 channels for Trychophytie Nagel in the GB-4000 manual (which i posted) on Wed, but it didn't stop the cracked heel from hurting. It didn't work as i wanted it to work. I had to apply aloe.
Then there was a 72-hour power failure when i couldn't rife. During that time i took 3 doses of antibiotics, for protection and partly to see what the reaction would be, since i've been off abx a month.
The sore crack in the heel stopped hurting! This indicates that there was a bacterial component to the infection along with the fungus.
In fact, my doctor did mention a possible bacterial component of some Trychophyton infections.
----Polly Polygonum ----or Nilufar Knotweed
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where is your new thread Dr Dave? Over in general support?
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I think it is great to have so much interest in rife and a support thread that is staying alive!!
Also others who are starting other threads. I though might suggest that you keep your questions in this one because the others may end up being lost down the line because the rife subject has been very hard to keep ongoing as a subject that stays this strong. As a matter of fact this has been amazing that this thread has so much life and activity.
The reason I am say this is so that valuable information that might be in those other threads (though good intention and maybe a specific subject matter or topic) may be totally lost and not included in the reading.
I myself to end up going to look for these other threads and one day I was lucky and the other day not etc..
Just an idea.. If you could also post the same question or idea or information here as well? If it is not tooo much trouble?
Just throwing out the ideas.. its all up to you of course.
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CD57
How are things going for you? Have you been starting the rife yet or still reading up?
Let us know ok?
Blessings
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I agree with SS -- I had no idea that there were other rife threads out there. I remember that MB had one a while back, but haven't seen it in a while.
It would be great to have all the questions & frequency postings on this thread so it is easier to keep track of everything.
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676 hz for H-Pylori needs to be run five or six days in a row to permanently get rid of H-pylori in the stomach. It may take longer to remove it from the whole body.
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Thanks Dan! We started...and we will do it for a week and see what happens!
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If burning Stomach pain is the symptom, which is what I had, you should notice relief shortly after treatment.
I accidentally found out the right pathogen by running a group of H-Pylori frequencies, which were the only frequencies that made the symptoms go away.
I later came across the method to get rid of it permanently by reading Aubrey Scoon's article in the link below.
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Thanks Dan...my daughter describes it as her intestines feel like their twisting and very painful. Little heartburn. The reason I thought we would try an H Pylori frequency is because she tested positive for it back in November and was treated for two weeks.
I thought perhaps it was never fully eradicated and it wouldnt hurt to try. That feeling is better except for she has always had a lot of GI issue since dx.
Thanks for the help..
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(We can add to this every time we find a new frequency to use:
612 is the best frequency we use. that is a ten for sure.
You bring up a good point, in that certain harmonics of 612 may work better. We have used 306 which is a lower harmonic of 612. It never worked as well as 612. Your higher harmonic of 1224 worked better than 612. To try a higher harmonic simply keep doubling the frequency 306, 612, 1224 are all different harmonics of the same frequency.
The second most effective is 432 hz. It is about a nine in effectiveness. Other than that, I just ran all of the listed frequencies in the CAFL. I do not know which are effective or not.
I only have really tested frequencies in the Mhz range designed to affect the DNA of Lyme. These are more experimental and do not appear to work at lower ranges of frequencies. They do affect the bacteria, but that does not mean they are damaging or killing them. I will know more over time.
started out using my machine (I have a DT EMEM5) twice a week for babs. The first few times I did 570, 20 and 27 for 2 minutes each. After like the 3rd time I increased each frequency by one minute until I worked my way up to 5 minutes each frequency. Then I heard that 76 was a possible babs frequency so I added that one to the mix. I would say it took me about 3 months to kick babs this way.
We use 125 Hz, 570 Hz, 612 Hz, 832 Hz, 942 Hz (1 minute each)
EMEM5 dual tube machine from rife labs.
Lyme Program (3 minutes each progamed) 799-803-640-847-1087-1112-1455-2016-2050-4320-6870
I then do
Liver Support (1 min each programed) 337-463-574-668-787-803-912-1862-3337-5546
Lymph Support (1 minute each programed) 146-346-428-596-767-982-1078-5176-5443-8846
Kidney Support (1 minute each programed) 248-463-522-622-658-917-1865-3374-5162
I didn't feel any herx, so 5 days later I went up to 1 min on each frequency - no herx. 5 days later 1.30 min - no herx. 5 days later 2.00 min and finally a herx. Babs frequencies: 570,20,27,76,5776,753,432,1584,1583 all 2 mins. I do this every Monday & Thursday. Then every 2 weeks I do the lyme frequencies. Babesia - 76, 570, 1583, 1584, 432, 753, 5776
I added in the 72 and 120 and it hit me with the biggest punch yet... Reminder about 72 and 120 ... Nynah Silver writes that those two numbers kill 75 percent of parasites.
2016 Best frequency yet: Dan B.
For fatigue, I would run some Strep frequencies.
Strep infection is real common in even healthy people.
I use muscle testing and so frequencies vary but the frequency for wolhynia fever (a type of rickettsia) is always involved for me. It is 547.
I also often need zygomycosis (fungal infection) frequencies - one or more of these 942, 623, 733
AND
Zearalenone (a potent mycotoxin found in grains) - one or more of these 4978.71 and 247.88
The pain was so bad one time, I thought I was going to pass out -- so I took out my machine and rifed for 5 minutes on the Dysmenorrhea setting of 727 & 880.
And what do you know -- my cramps went away. Ever since then, I rife for cramps and it works.
Liver Support (1 min each programed) 337-463-574-668-787-803-912-1862-3337-5546
Lymph Support (1 minute each programed) 146-346-428-596-767-982-1078-5176-5443-8846
Kidney Support (1 minute each programed) 248-463-522-622-658-917-1865-3374-516
H.pylori 676
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A woman I know sent me this message. I'm wondering whether part or all of her opinions are valid and if so, have these concerns been dealt with in any machines? When I get my new roof paid off, I plan on buying a machine. ----
"You might want to know my hubby has researched and tested Rife quite a bit, the problem with most (all we have seen) rife "machines" is that they now use transistors instead of the original gas tubes that Rife used. These "back enginered machines" give "results" however they are not beneficial in the long run as they cause more problems than they treat. Much like a harsh "medicine" that gives results yet has side effects. Even the machines with "tubes" have computers and transisters supplying the power to those tubes, so you end up problems. Rife DID have a great machine, healed some, (even killed a few because it worked too well & fast and the toxins of dead cells were too much) A "true Rife" will have only one line to the bulb, it will be cold - no heat to the bulb, and a longitutidal wave instead of transverse wave. (ie Teslas's one line power transmitter )"
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It is partly correct, in that the new machines do not completely duplicate Rife's original machine.
The side effects mentioned are unknown to me, but it is true that the new machines are not as effective with Cancer in particular, as the original. I know of no side effects from any frequency treatment for any condition.
No one was ever killed from a frequency treatment to my knowledge, although lab animals were killed in finding the correct frequencies and general testing.
I have never had a hot plasma tube. The power levels of most machines are not enough to produce heat.
The longitudinal wave is speculation. Even its existence is not well accepted. You cannot even test for this type of wave, so its presence certainly was not known in the thirties. It is not measurable today.
There is a new device that will be available in April that will work with the GB-4000. It is as close to a original Rife device as is possible without using a Faraday cage to contain stray frequencies.
I will likely be getting one of these devices. I will let you know what my results are then.
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