treepatrol
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I have had 3 kidney stones pass in the last 2 month period and its only been when I have had at least 8 to 10 beers. I am off all abxs since last december so a year is almost up I was on abxs for 8 years straight.
1. The question is has any one else (old timers) had this happen?
2. What do you think caused this the extended period of abx's?
I drink plenty of water I have been drinking milk lately. Or 3. Do you think it could be one of the probiotics that brought this on?
Probiotics were B12 complex,Magnesium,vitamin d,fish oil,cq10,multi vitamin,acidophilis,yogurt.
???
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Have you considered Gout?
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Pinelady
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Vitamin E will help kidney stones. There are
several articles on it for gall stones and kidney
stones. It prevents the formation of calcium
stones. For some reason it picks up calcium and
cholesterol in the blood and takes it with it. It
is a powerful antioxidant. I take 1000 after
ramping up from 200. I have read the best results
have been after getting rid of them in the prevention of them forming again.
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I've passed three kidney stones, and some sand. Resently my urine has at times been very red (gross hematuria). My urologist thinks the GH is from stone passage, not abx., but when the 3 passed last year I saw no GH. Interesting post.
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Carol in PA
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Comment: Although there was no control group in this study, the results strongly suggest that supplementing with modest doses of magnesium and vitamin B6 can greatly reduce the recurrence rate of calcium oxalate kidney stones.
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You're still taking probiotics? or did you mean to say "supplements" above?
I hope you get it figured out!! My husband gets those!
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treepatrol
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quote:Originally posted by amberini: Have you considered Gout?
When I was treating lyme i was border line gout and i could usually tell because either my big toe would get sore or my right knee which is the good one. And since passing stones knock on wood i have had know pain from gout?
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treepatrol
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quote:Originally posted by Pinelady: Vitamin E will help kidney stones. There are
several articles on it for gall stones and kidney
stones. It prevents the formation of calcium
stones. For some reason it picks up calcium and
cholesterol in the blood and takes it with it. It
is a powerful antioxidant. I take 1000 after
ramping up from 200. I have read the best results
have been after getting rid of them in the prevention of them forming again.
This is why I really wary of V e. Vitamin E consumption and the risk of coronary heart disease in men EB Rimm, MJ Stampfer, A Ascherio, E ... - New England Journal ..., 1993 - content.nejm.org Results After controlling for age and several coronary risk factors, we observed a lower risk of coronary disease among men with higher intakes of vitamin E (P for trend = 0.003). For men consuming more than 60 IU per day of vitamin E, the multivariate relative risk was 0.64 ... Cited by 1602 - Related articles - BL Direct - All 8 versions
Vitamin E consumption and the risk of coronary disease in women MJ Stampfer, CH Hennekens, JAE Manson, ... - The New England ..., 1993 - nejm.highwire.org Results As compared with women in the lowest fifth of the cohort with respect to vitamin E intake, those in the top fifth had a relative risk of major coronary disease of 0.66 (95 percent confidence interval, 0.50 to 0.87) after adjustment for age and smoking. Further adjustment for a ... Cited by 1645 - Related articles - BL Direct - All 9 versions
Direct observation of a free radical interaction between vitamin E and vitamin C JE Packer, TF Slater, RL Willson - 1979 - nature.com VITAMIN E ( -tocopherol) and vitamin C (ascorbic acid) react rapidly with organic free radicals, and it is widely accepted that the antioxidant properties of these compounds are responsible in part for their biological activity 1−5 . Tissue vitamin C levels are often considerably ... Cited by 741 - Related articles - All 3 versions
Randomised controlled trial of vitamin E in patients with coronary disease: ... NG Stephens, A Parsons, PM Schofield, F Kelly, K ... - Lancet, 1996 - ncbi.nlm.nih.gov BACKGROUND: Vitamin E (alpha-tocopherol) is thought to have a role in prevention of atherosclerosis, through inhibition of oxidation of low-density lipoprotein. Some epidemiological studies have shown an association between high dietary intake or high serum ... Cited by 1748 - Related articles - BL Direct - All 8 versions
►Meta-analysis: high-dosage vitamin E supplementation may increase all-cause ... ... , D Dalal, RA Riemersma, LJ Appel, E ... - Annals of Internal ..., 2005 - Am Coll Physicians Background: Experimental models and observational studies suggest that vitamin E supplementation may prevent cardiovascular disease and cancer. However, several trials of high-dosage vitamin E supplementation showed non-statistically significant increases in total mortality. Cited by 812 - Related articles - BL Direct - All 18 versions
Vitamin E supplementation and cardiovascular events in high-risk patients. The ... S Yusuf, G Dagenais, J Pogue, J Bosch, P Sleight - N Engl J Med, 2000 - grande.nal.usda.gov Record Detail. Return to previous page, Save: Title: Vitamin E supplementation and cardiovascular events in high-risk patients. ... There were no significant differences in the numbers of deaths from cardiovascular causes (342 of those assigned to vitamin E vs. ...
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treepatrol
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quote:Originally posted by Lymetoo: Maybe the calcium in the multi???
You're still taking probiotics? or did you mean to say "supplements" above?
I hope you get it figured out!! My husband gets those!
Maybe the calcium in the multi??? Thats what i was wondering?
Thanks everybody .
I know theres a corelation here with the longterm abxs because it shuts done cell groth in 80% of the abxs?
Anybody have more suggestions??
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not sure what causing them for you but drinking cranberry juice helps dissolve them my pcp told me this when I passed mine.
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Pinelady
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I have seen people take it and lower their cholesterol by half. It is a very powerful
antioxident and gets rid of a lot of junk in the body.
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treepatrol
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(cranberry juice) As far as I know is for killing infection and yeast pronlem.Thanks anyway.
Thanks Carol in PA Thats a good link!!!!!!!!!
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