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ok...this whole time i thought i had a negative on my test but know i am not sure. but, still thought i had it.
after reading from fatigued to fantastic, it says that if you have a high count on C4a anything over 3000 (mine is 7937) and C3a also high this should point one to lyme.
i had these tested for mold ( shoemaker) but my doc didn't put these as positive towards lyme.
i had the western blot that was negative and my doc said, well you could still have it but after reading a thread here a postive band on 41 is said to be enough....right?
i had Igm 31++, 41 ind, 66+ Igg 41++ 58+
so,even if ingenex thinks this is negative it is still positive to lyme humans? add my C4a and C3a along with symptoms do you think this is enough to say lyme for sure? i can't keep testing since i no longer have insurance.
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Pinelady
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Igenex should say positive on IgM on 2 bands. I would say yes you do.
-------------------- Suspected Lyme 07 Test neg One band migrating in IgG region unable to identify.Igenex Jan.09IFA titer 1:40 IND IgM neg pos 31 +++ 34 IND 39 IND 41 IND 83-93 + DX:Neuroborreliosis Posts: 5850 | From Kentucky | Registered: Dec 2008
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IckyTicky
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66 is a specific band.
-------------------- IGM: 18+, 23+, 30+, 31+++, 34+, 39IND, 41++, 58+++, 66+, 83-93IND IGG: 31+, 39IND, 41+ Also positive for Mycoplasma Pneumoniae and RMSF. Whole family of 5 dx with Lyme. Posts: 1014 | From Texas | Registered: Jul 2009
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5dana8
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#7) From the above article About the Western Blot and band 31 ~
" Of patients with acute culture-proven Lyme disease, 20-30% remain seronegative on serial Western Blot sampling.
Antibody titers also appear to decline over time; thus while the Western Blot may remain positive for months, it may not always be sensitive enough to detect chronic infection with the Lyme spirochete.
For ``epidemiological purposes'' the CDC eliminated from the Western Blot analysis the reading of bands 31 and 34. These bands are so specific to Borrelia burgdorferi that they were chosen for vaccine development.
Since a vaccine for Lyme disease is currently unavailable, however, a positive 31 or 34 band is highly indicative of Borrelia burgdorferi exposure.
Yet these bands are not reported in commercial Lyme tests."
hope this helps
*the above is not medical advice...just copied n pasted article from The International Lyme and Associated Diseases Society. Please see link
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I have never tested positive for anything at any time over the past 15 years. However, I had lyme 14 years ago, and contracted it again 4 years ago. I remain convinced that one can be seronegative because of how one's immune system is.
My neuropathy slowly progressed over 2.75 years. There seemed to be no hope. I got on antibiotics for lyme. Over the past year, my neuropathy has not progressed at all.
I'm sold.
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thanks for the feedback. i have been treating... doing what i need to do to "prepare" for treating...getting rid of mercury fillings, methal vitamins, etc.
i have started bruners herbs 3 weeks ago.
what do you think about the c3a and c4a? showing that one could have lyme? i haven't seen anything posted about that. Thanks again
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