I'm looking for some relative experience from others who have Babs and Bart.
According to Dr. B's Guidelines regarding Bart symptoms, the majority from that list has intensified.
Mood swings are rough, but I'm stable.
1) When you started treating Babs, did your Bartonella symptoms flare within a couple weeks? How would you describe it?
2) I'm noticing light red splotches on my face, It may be part of the process -- fine. Did anyone else get red blotches on their face or body? Did they resolve with treatment?
3) When you started treating Bart, did your symptoms resolve relatively quick with antibiotic changes -- as per Dr. B's opinion in the Guidelines?
I know some of this may not be clear for everyone; as it is difficult to associate specific symptoms with the disease and co-infections. I'm basing my experience off The Guidelines classifications.
If their are any posts that I might be helpful to me, please link so I may read them. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Never really had bart symptoms (that i could tell) but I think I got lyme & co-infections in NJ where there is a high rate of bart.
Anyhoo --- I treated lyme for 1 yr and got it under control, then over the last 2.5 months I have been really hitting babs hard and seen some progress.
Well out of the blue I have been getting these muscle twitches like crazy only in my legs & butt.
My LLND says that it is really common for bart symptoms to appear after treating & lowering the babs & lyme load. So she is adding some bart meds for me in a month or so.
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I treated babs, finished treatment, then a couple of weeks later, started getting the foot and shin pain. I had never had that before.
Started treating for bart and had to be taken off levaquin after four days.
Now we're doing some herbal treatments my doc has been investigating and having success with. I will start them within the next couple of days.
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Thanks Wolfed Out. My LLND is wanting to put me on Rifampin for the bart in a few weeks.
I should also mention that I use rife as part of my recovery and I am going to add Salt/C protocol next week.
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It is common that as you lower the germ load of one coinfection, the other becomes more noticeable.
My friends have spoken of this happening to them.
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Makes a lot of sense because of the improvement I've seen in the other areas.
More noticeable definitely, but I also think intensified applies to my situation. My doctor commented that this could happen.
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Wolfed, I'm after bart and have been for the last two months. Guess who is in charge of my body now? Lyme has decided he's king.
I had lyme down to cyst form (?) and just having monthly flares. I treat lyme only with my rife machine 2-3 times a month.
I don't know if the rifampin for bart has awakened lyme bacteria? It's amazing how focusing on bart has eliminated my GI issues, skin issues and insomnia issues.
Thank goodness I have a rife machine that can knock the lyme enemy back down. With all I've read about bart/babs treatment and rife lately on this site, soon bart is going to get fried too.
Pam
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What kind of Lyme symptoms flared up after you've been going after Bartonella?
Is Rifampin the only ABX currently in your regimen?
What dosage did you start with, and what dosage are you currently taking?
What other supplements are you taking for support?
That's GREAT to hear that you've had success in getting your GI, skin, and insomnia issues treated. I hope it continues to improve.
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Wolf, the Lyme Arthritis has returned. They had been during flare period. Now daily. Trouble with knees, ankles, hands, hip, back, neck and spine.
Rifampin is the only abx I'm taking. Started at 2-300mg and still at that. I take both at bedtime.
I take the normal vit & mineral, omega 3, D3, milk thristle, C.
Pam
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Good luck with treatment. Do you know what doctor is going to try for Bartonellla?
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