fflutterby
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I have had a couple of these over the past 10 years. They are starting to come back with the Lyme. I swear I am dying and the fear is too much to bear. Could this be caused by the Acetyl L-Carnitine I am taking?
Although I hate to do it, I resorted to ativan today because I was in sheer terror. Anybody have this problem? How do you handle it?
I thought about the ER but assumed they would think it was all in my head.
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I am prob taking 750 mg CVS brand
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Could you go on a mild SSRI like Lexapro? It's really helped me with my anxiety. Like night & day difference!
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Make sure you keep breathing and try to slow it down, deep breaths. Repeat over and over: This will pass, I'm ok.
Acetyl L-Carnitine made me feel panicy and awful the one time I took it. Why don't you stop taking that?
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I know all about anxiety but caution you about getting on ativan because it can take years to get off of it. Any drug is going to cover up the problem.
Try Calm Forte from the health food store. And check out Dr. Claire Week's books/CDs on how to deal with anxiety.
Panic/anxiety is coming form adrenals/kidneys. Either your kidneys need help eliminating or the adrenals are run down. Supporting the kidneys esp. if you are taking detox remedies is paramount. A good acupuncturist/nutritionist should be able to guide you thru this.
Another consideration is EMF. Do you use a cell phone? Do you live near a cell phone tower? Do you sleep with a clock radio by your bed? Are you plugged into doodads? Are you always on the phone? Is your house an EMF hazard? Satellite antennae?
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I had terrible fear as well as anxiety (couldn't even watch "Lost" - too scarey - had to leave the room). After a blood test showed that my vitamin D levels were practically nonexistent (spirochettes eat your Vitamin D), a doctor gave me Vitamin D therapy. After that, my anxiety and fear were greatly reduced. When I was put on Minocycline which penetrates the blood/brain barrier, the fear just fell away from me and now I am free of fear as well as anxiety although I have other sporadic problems.
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Get your thyroid levels tested. This is way overlooked IMO. We KNOW Lyme effects the adrenal system. Your thyroid levels have a HUGE impact on anxiety. Controlling my thyroid levels made all anxiety disappear. Anxiety was totally new for me and I didn't know I had Lyme for a few months. This was extremely scary for me. Trust me. With Lyme treatment my thyroid levels have normalized and i have stopped all thyroid meds with no return of anxiety.
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Carol in PA
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quote:Originally posted by fflutterby: I am prob taking 750 mg CVS brand
Look at the list of ingredients. If it says magnesium oxide, then you need to get something else.
Magnesium oxide is more difficult for the intestines to absorb, but it is cheap, so manufacturers use it.
I'm using Source Naturals Ultra-Mag, which has magnesium citrate, taurinate, malate, glycinate and succinate.
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When the body is out of balance...lyme or no lyme...all systems effect each other.
so whatever you take, it changes your balance or hte good or the bad..
Drugs, may be needed, but knoiw they are changing your balance while killing pathogens....creating other issues that will always effect another body system. Especially emotions and mental. As all stems from CNS.
Start to clear off the drugs with detox type protocols after abx, drugs have done all they can do...then work on natural type protocols to get your body to balance itself...that would be he goal.
Look at Dr. K's 5 levels of healing chart...and see all he areas that are connected that will fall into place when the priority is addressed...liked peeling the onion. ART testing can help identify the starting point, what to take, or do, and what level to work on first and for how long, until another thing needs addressing so your immune system gets back into control and your body functins likeone...not addressed individually by different md's. Your body is a whole body...body , mind, spirit, within the environment.
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my heart goes out to you, i have had this as well to a crippling degree.i am now taking celexa 20 mg/day and this has hepled tremendously! it has minimal side effects and has really taken the edge off. prior to being diagnosed with chronic lymes/co-inf i thought i was going crazy. i have taken xanax and valium to help with sleep and have recently switched to melatonin at night and am suprised how much it has helped. 30mg at bedtime. i also take a very high quality magnesium supplemet 4 x day, my provider has stressed how important this is. i would rather not be taking celexa but a necessary evil, i would be institutionalized by now if not for this drug.i hope to be able to stop when things have "calmed down" best wishes for health on your journey. tessB
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fflutterby
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Thanks all, great info. It has stopped thank God. Haven't had one in 5 days. I tried Rescue Remedy and it helped some.
If this happens again, I will try to meditate, breath relax or last resort use my ativan.
lightparfait I do not like drugs. It took alot for me to take even an advil - "pre lyme". So I am trying my best to stay disciplined and use natural products whenever possible. I will look into the art testing for sure, when I get back to work $$
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In all honesty, a methylation protocol has helped me a lot with anxiety and tremendously with detox.
This is just a curious question, and it may have never been asked on LymeNet before, and it may not have any relevancy. However, has anyone else with this type of anxiety had negative reactions from epinephrine while at the dentist? Serious question.
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kday, I thought I would jump out of my skin after a dentist (the kind that pulls teeth...gosh can't think of what they're called) gave me a shot of novacaine with epinephrine in it before removing a wisdom tooth. My heart started racing and I felt very weird. It was so frightening. The dentist was not very good about handling it, kind of a "get over it" attitude so when my heart stopped racing I left. Needless to say the tooth is still there. Since then I have requested that there be no epinephrine in novacaine during dental visits. The reaction I had was from the epinephrine, not from Lyme.
But anxiety attacks are a symptom of Lyme. Flutterby it is a good idea to take magnesium and get thyroid levels checked but I would not hesitate to use anything that can help, including things like ativan, valium, etc. Those meds are very good for stopping an anxiety attack in its tracks. If the anxiety takes on a full-time job in your body, lexapro is a good med for many but there are others out there as well.
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quote:Originally posted by AlanaSuzanne: kday, I thought I would jump out of my skin after a dentist (the kind that pulls teeth...gosh can't think of what they're called) gave me a shot of novacaine with epinephrine in it before removing a wisdom tooth. My heart started racing and I felt very weird. It was so frightening. The dentist was not very good about handling it, kind of a "get over it" attitude so when my heart stopped racing I left. Needless to say the tooth is still there. Since then I have requested that there be no epinephrine in novacaine during dental visits. The reaction I had was from the epinephrine, not from Lyme.
But anxiety attacks are a symptom of Lyme. Flutterby it is a good idea to take magnesium and get thyroid levels checked but I would not hesitate to use anything that can help, including things like ativan, valium, etc. Those meds are very good for stopping an anxiety attack in its tracks. If the anxiety takes on a full-time job in your body, lexapro is a good med for many but there are others out there as well.
Of course it's a symptom of Lyme. I was just curious if those with this certain polymorphism are more susceptible to Lyme anxiety. A thought that ran through my head.
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kday, all I know is that anxiety can be a Lyme symptom and that epinephrine in novacaine can cause extreme symptoms like I described....whether you have Lyme or not.
I don't know anything about polymorphism and haven't even heard of it til now. What is this?
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