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kimmie
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Hi, I have an LLMD, looking to add an LLND as well. I am in the Jacksonville Fl area and can travel if needed. Thanks.
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WE don't keep an LLND list, but I'll send you what I have.

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Theres someone inNY who is well known and does phone consultations...im sending you info thru pm

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The closer you get to G-D The closer He'll get to you.

Be who you are, and say what you feel...the people who matter don't mind...and the people who mind , don't matter.

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HOW TO FIND A LYME LITERATE NATUROPATHIC DOCTOR (N.D.)

Of course, beyond the training and licensing credentials, any ND who works with a person with tick-borne infections should also be ILADS-educated (so to speak) and actively still keeping up with ILADS research.

You also need to know that many N.D.s also often incorporate antibiotics just as many LLMDs incorporate support measures.

Check the lyme support groups in the area to compare notes from those who have worked with some LL NDs.

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http://www.naturopathic.org/

The American Association of Naturopathic Physicians

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http://www.naturopathic.org/AF_MemberDirectory.asp?version=2

Find a Naturopathic Physician - by zip code or location

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http://www.aanmc.org/

Association of Accredited Naturopathic Medical Colleges

These colleges and universities often have patient clinics that usually offering sliding scale payment options. While the residents and interns may not be LL, they also may be.

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Individual states have their own licensing boards, different from MD boards.

http://www.naturopathic.org/content.asp?contentid=57

Licensed States and Licensing Authorities

Currently, 15 states, the District of Columbia, and the United States territories of Puerto Rico and the United States Virgin Islands have licensing laws for naturopathic doctors. In these states, naturopathic doctors are required to graduate from an accredited four-year residential naturopathic medical school and pass an extensive postdoctoral board examination (NPLEX) in order to receive a license.

Licensed naturopathic physicians must fulfill state-mandated continuing education requirements annually, and will have a specific scope of practice defined by their state's law. The states that currently have licensing laws for naturopathic physicians are:

* Alaska
* Arizona

* California
* Connecticut

* District of Columbia
* Hawaii

* Idaho
* Kansas

* Maine
* Minnesota
* Montana

* New Hampshire
* Oregon

* Utah
* Vermont

* Washington
* US Territories: Puerto Rico and Virgin Islands

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Many N.D.s are also licensed acupuncturists (L.Ac.) and there may be a few L.Ac.s who are also LL. Both N.D.s and L.Ac.s have several years of post-graduate education in herbal medicine. You can search the sites to explore the differences in their training - and ask the practitioner in person about their training and experience. They are usually glad to share that all that.

WHAT IF YOUR STATE DOES NOT LICENSE N.D.s?

Some states that allow N.D.s to practice in other ways - such as with a M.D.

Normally, you'd want a licensed N.D., however, in states where there is no licensing, if you find a state professional organization, USUALLY those who belong meet certain professional standards and have the appropriate medical degree from an accredited college of naturopathy.

Search at Google (Yahoo, or Bing):

State name, licensing ``naturopathic physician''

If no results, search: [state name], naturopathic (or acupuncture or Ayervedic, etc.)

you want to find some sort of professional organization.

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AYURVEDIC MEDICINE (D.Ay.)

www.ayurveda-nama.org

National Ayurvedic Medical Association

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You should also consider Doctor of Oriental Medicine (O.M.D.)

www.nomaa.org

NOMAA - National Oriental Medicine Accreditation Agency

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HOW TO FIND AN ACUPUNCTURIST (L.Ac.)

www.nccaom.org

National Certification Commission for Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine

http://www.nccaom.org/find/index.html

Find a Practitioner

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http://www.acaom.org/

The Accreditation Commission for Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine (ACAOM)

- the national accrediting agency recognized by the U.S. Department of Education to accredit Master's-level programs in the acupuncture and Oriental medicine profession.

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http://www.acaom.org/accProgAddress.asp

ACCREDITED PROGRAMS AND ADDRESS DETAILS

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Licensed Massage Therapists (LMT) also are very helpful. You can search for their licensing organization in your state and contact your local lyme support groups for those LMTs who are good with lyme patients.
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www.lymeinfo.net/alt.html

LYME DISEASE ALTERNATIVE THERAPIES

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http://www.webshopemporium.com/lymeandco-infectionAlternativeTreatments.htm

Alternative Treatments for Lyme Disease and Co-Infections

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To compare and contrast the work of authors regarding some of the most common complementary or integrative paths. Note that many still incorporate antibiotics.

This is not at all a complete list . . . just a start. It's far easier to have a LL doctor with lots of experience so that you don't have to do all the homework. Suggestions here are, in no way, intended to take the place of a good LL doctor. This is for patient education and also to serve as a basis for discussion with your LL doctor.

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www.lymeinfo.net/alt.html

LYME DISEASE ALTERNATIVE THERAPIES

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http://www.webshopemporium.com/lymeandco-infectionAlternativeTreatments.htm

Alternative Treatments for Lyme Disease and Co-Infections

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http://www.lymepa.org/html/dr__j__burrascano_september_20_0.html

Burrascano's Powerpoint SLIDE presentation 9-20-08

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http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/B_guidelines_12_17_08.pdf

Advanced Topics in Lyme Disease (Diagnostic Hints and Treatment Guidelines for Lyme and Other Tick Borne Illnesses

Dr. Burrascano's Treatment Guidelines (2008) - 37 pages

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As important as any supplements, sections regarding self-care:

Go to page 27 for SUPPORTIVE THERAPY & the CERTAIN ABSOLUTE RULES

and also pages 31-32 for advice on a safe, non-aerobic exercise plan and physical rehabilitation.

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This is included in Burrascano's Guidelines, but you may want to be able to refer to it separately, too:

http://www.lymepa.org/Nutritional_Supplements.pdf

** Nutritional Supplements in Disseminated Lyme Disease **

J.J. Burrascano, Jr., MD (2008) - Four pages

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http://www.lymeinducedautism.com/images/Lymewhat_is_it_part_3,_LIA.pdf

LYME DISEASE Considerations in Diagnosis and Management

June 26, 2008 Lyme-Autism Connection Conference

125 pages - Powerpoint presentation

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By the same author as above, Chapter 1 from the book "Insights Into Lyme Disease Treatment"

http://www.lymebook.com/steven-harris

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http://www.amazon.com/Insights-Into-Lyme-Disease-Treatment/dp/0982513801/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1272566632&sr=1-1

Insights Into Lyme Disease Treatment: 13 Lyme-Literate Health Care Practitioners Share Their Healing Strategies

Connie Strasheim (Author), Maureen Mcshane M.D. (Foreword), Thirteen Lyme-Literate Doctors (Contributor)

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http://www.klinghardtneurobiology.com/LymeProtocolOct09.pdf

A Treatment Guide: Lyme and other Chronic Infections - by DKt, MD, PhD

October 2009 - 87 pages

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http://www.klinghardtneurobiology.com/popups/PC1.html

Online Radio Interview

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www.lyme-disease-research-database.com/lymenutritionfile1_files/Integrated-Approach-DAN.pdf

HEALING LYME DISEASE: An Integrated Approach to Curing Chronic Infection by DKr, M.D. (2004)

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It's very important to have this book as a reference tool for self-care and support measures. It answers so many questions in detail that is impossible here on the forum.

http://tinyurl.com/6lq3pb (through Amazon)

THE LYME DISEASE SOLUTION (2008)- by KS, MD

You can read more about it here and see customer reviews.

Web site: www.lymedoctor.com

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http://tinyurl.com/5vnsjg

Book: Healing Lyme: Natural Healing And Prevention of Lyme Borreliosis And Its Coinfections - by Stephen Harrod Buhner

Website: http://planetthrive.com/2009/08/buhner-healing-lyme-program/

Forum: http://planetthrive.com/category/experts/buhner/

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Familiar with Buhner's work:

http://watercourse-way.com/lyme.html

Natural Healing for Lyme Disease

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http://tinyurl.com/5drx94

Lyme Disease and Modern Chinese Medicine - by Dr. QingCai Zhang, MD & Yale Zhang

web site: try www.sinomedresearch.org and use "clinic" and then "clinic" for the passwords or call Hepapro through www.hepapro.com

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http://www.dancingviolets.com/media/pdf/LymeDisease.pdf

Lyme Disease and Co-infections: Clinical Overview - by Rebecca Snow, MS, RH, (AHG), CNS, LDN

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http://www.steveclarknd.com/LymeDisease.htm

Your Path to Wellness - Lyme disease (by Steve Clark, ND)

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RAIN-TREE (Amazon Rain Forest focus)

(800) 780-5902; email: [email protected]

Main site: http://www.rain-tree.com

Best to also read the book: Healing Power of Rainforest Herbs -- by Leslie Taylor, ND - available at their site.

Customer reviews of this book can be read through this link over at Amazon (BOOKS): http://tinyurl.com/ye5bxqw

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http://www.rain-tree.com/spiro-extract.htm

SPIRO Extract (from RAIN-TREE)

A synergistic formula of 6 rainforest botanicals which are traditionally used in South America for syphilis (a type of spirochete bacteria) and other bacterial conditions.* This product was featured in an article by the Health Sciences Institute (see page 4).

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http://www.kroegerherb.com/index.php/products/combinations_product/2446

SPK Formula� (Formerly Spiro Kete�)

Ingredients: Nettle leaf, Yerba santa, Goldenrod, Monolaurin, Tobacco leaf. Other Ingredients: Vegetarian source capsule.

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www.townsendletter.com/FebMar2006/lyme0206.htm

February/March 2006

BIOCHEMISTRY OF LYME DISEASE: BORRELIA BURGDORFERI SPIROCHETE / CYST

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Methods mentioned in the article above:

http://www.beatinglymedisease.blogspot.com

http://www.hansacenter.com

Book & Author's Blog: Beating Lyme Disease by David Jernigan

And, the personal link posted above by Gary:

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/89968

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COWDEN PROTOCOL might be considered. That's easily found through Google & through LymeNet Archives search.

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RIFE MACHINE

http://www.lymebook.com/lyme-disease-rife-machines-bryan-rosner

Book: Lyme Disease and Rife Machines by Bryan Rosner

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http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/88778

RIFE Support Discussion Thread

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See the "Secondary Porphyria" post first.

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/91842?

PORPHYRIA Thread

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LIVER SUPPORT LINKS are 3/4 of the way down the page here:

Specific for LYME patients - lots of details about ears and what can help:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=065801

Topic: TINNITUS: Ringing Between The Ears; Vestibular, Balance, Hearing with compiled links - including HYPERACUSIS

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Methods mentioned in the article above:

http://www.beatinglymedisease.blogspot.com

http://www.hansacenter.com

Book & Author's Blog: Beating Lyme Disease by David Jernigan

And, the personal link posted above by Gary:

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/89968

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Incorporating TEASEL root:

An Overview of Lyme and Coinfections from a Treating Herbalist (by Wendy Snow)

http://tinyurl.com/yh6w892

Note -- The document is 81 pages long so it may take a couple of minutes to load.

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/pubmed

PubMed Search for Medical Abstracts (for pharmaceuticals, herbals and other nutritional supplements)

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ADJUNCT SITES for herbal study:

Not at all about lyme, but a good site for articles about supplements (mostly nutritional supplements but also some herbal ones):

http://www.vrp.com/articlecategories.aspx

Vitamin Research - Article Search

A fabulous library backed with solid 3rd party citations for every article.

9-12-10 note: They just redesigned their web site and their library seems to have gone missing. I'll leave this link, though, in case it comes back. They HAD a very good library.

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More specific to herbs and how they work in the body. GREAT BASIC BOOK just not about lyme (other than the page on Sarsaparilla):

The One Earth Herbal Sourcebook (Tillotson, et.al.)

http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/one-earth-herbal-sourcebook/

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www.itmonline.org

ITM - Chinese Medicine research site - They have good articles regarding "SAFETY" & "INTERACTION"
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Hopefully, you will find a LL ND soon. In the meantime, here some more tools to copy and paste over to your personal research file:

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As many sleep and pain meds (and even some over-the-counter products) have varying levels of toxicity and can be hard on the liver and kidneys, here are some suggestions for sleep support that can safely nourish & calm the body:
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http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/89790

Topic: NATURAL SLEEP - Links to articles & supplements

ADRENAL SUPPORT LINKS are included here.

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http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/91341?

Topic: Natural depression cocktail please?

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http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/3/24039

Topic: Looking for long term pain management

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CARDIAC SUPPORT - and energy support

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/77325

Topic: To everyone with cardiac symptoms please read !

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LIVER SUPPORT LINKS - 3/4 of the way down page one:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=065801

Topic: TINNITUS: Ringing Between The Ears; Vestibular, Balance, Hearing with compiled links - including HYPERACUSIS
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Welcome! I sent you a private message also. [hi]

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I'm sorry but I am no longer accepting any private messages due to my own battle with lyme.

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Looking for a LLND in NYC

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First Symptom 9/09
Multiple docs, negative Labcorp test
LLMD: 1/10
Positive Igenex/CDC test
Treatment 2/10
2/10-8/10 Amox, ceftin, zith, flagyl
Currently: Bicillin, Minocycline, still dealing with severe breathing issues

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You can use the same formula as above:

* Ask your LLMD

* Contact your local support groups

* Work through the professional organizations' links to find a ND and then request a short phone interview to discuss the degree they are (or are not) LL.

Ask first if they are a member of ILADS or have attended any ILADS functions, etc. That can tell you a lot.

Short phone conversations of five minutes or so are usually complementary. However, longer (or with questions regarding how they work), there may be a cost. Be sure you know the parameters of all that before you get very far into a phone call.

* REPOST a separate thread here with your own headline for individual PMs from those who have worked with LL NDs in NYC
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Kimmie, your question about a ND (and the same request from a few others) prompted me to collect my file notes and build a new thread so you can have your thread back.

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http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/2/13964?

Topic: How to find a LL ND (naturopathic doctor), acupuncturist, etc.

Includes how to find an ILADS-educated LL ND, an Acupuncturist, a doctor of Oriental Medicine (O.M.D.), or a doctor of Ayurvedic Medicine (D.Ay.), certified herbalists or nutritionists, etc.

Includes many articles and books on complementary / integrative methods - & RIFE links.
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