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maps
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I have three cavalier king charles spaniels.

Every night at bedtime they share a hanful of cat food as a treat.

Last night getting ready for bed I had my 15mg of immovain and 1 requip in my hand then i grabbed for the cat food, same hand. I had this vague sense that this was not smart but figured i would remember all i was doing was walking upstairs.

I gave them the cat food and turned around to take my sleep meds from the table and realized that i had givin everything that was in my hands to the dogs and they had eaten everything.

I did not know if one dog got all the medications or if each of them did. Was on the phone to animal poison center and while waiting I took my sleep meds.

They came back on line and told me to take them to an emergency vets which i called and they wanted to charge me $150 per dog just to walk in the door then treatment charges would have been on top of that.

I had no one to call so would have had to get a cab and they don't like taking dogs.

This all took about 25 minutes and i new that i could not do anything about it, there was no way i had the speed or brain power to sort it all out.

By this time one of the dogs was showing signs of having eaten them. I mixed up a lot of salt and warm water and gave it to him I took him outside and he wobbled and fell down all over the place.

He finally threw up but there were no tablets so I just had to go to bed.

I live in this fear everyday my brain just does not seem able to logically track things. If I go out and try to cross the road I have to keep looking both ways as I never feel like i have the whole picture.

I am so devastated, this is a whole new horrific low.

[ 03-06-2010, 05:36 PM: Message edited by: maps ]

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1999 CFS, 2002 CMV Myco pneumonia
1 year antibiotics on and off
2002 EBV, 2009 Positive Igenex Borellia and Babesia, Brain mri severe white matter disease
Monoclonal Gammopathy. On and off antibiotics since sept. March 9 started iv antibiotics

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OMG!!! are the babies ok?

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ARE YOU OK?
My second concern is the dogs.
ARE the DOGS ok?

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good idea to keep hydrogen peroxide on hand for such emergencies. YOu can give dogs quite a bit and make them vomit. cats you can not give it to. IF a dog ever eats meds best advide is to make them vomit asap then call the vet. Not all things they eat you want them to vomit back up but meds are not caustic and should be vomitted.

are they a live? are you ok?

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That is scary Maps.

I assume the dogs are OK.

I have learned to put the stuff I use to go to sleep on the top shelf over the TV.

That helps me.

And like you...I can't hold two thoughts in my head at a time.

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That's scary! I have to make a point of doing one thing at a time or I get confused and can't remember what I've done. [bonk]

I've wanted a cavalier for a long time. They are adorable. I hope all is well for you and your furbabies. [group hug]

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Sorry, I should have said they are ok. I checked to see if he was still breathing at midnight, 3 and 5 am.

He seems to have had a really good nights sleep [Smile]

Apart from the emotional trauma it is just so devastating to realize how far down i have come. It is not that I am careless all the medications are sorted by time of day etc but knowing that the most simplest of tasks is beginning to be out of my reach.

My symptoms are a revolving door, I have a so much pain, tingling, disorentation, sweats, sound sensitivity there is not one single momment of any day that i feel even remotely normal.

I can't even think things through clear enough to get the help I need. I have appointment with neuro this afternoon to go over spec scan (which was normal) I don't even know what to say.

I can't seem to get these docs to understand how sick I am. I need pain medication but no one wants to take on that responsibility.

I start iv antibiotics next week and I know it is going to cause severe nerve pain and if someone does not give me something i know that i just won't be able to stay on it.

The only hope I have is that a nurse will come every day to start the iv and she will be reporting to the doctor so maybe if someone sees me every day they will realize something is really wrong.

I don't think I ask the right questions, I have never asked if it is even possible to get better while having Monoclonal Gammopathy, other than being told I have it nothing more has been said.

Sometimes I wonder why they are not suggesting stem cell treatment now instead of waiting for multiple mylomas to show up, surely that would help if i had normal blood cells. It is all too much.

How can we exist and get better when most of the world denies lyme exists. Even in myself thier are days that I think it is my fault if only I had more up and go or maybe I am just not trying hard enough.

Sorry for the vent, just feeling very ragged right now.

regards
maps

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1999 CFS, 2002 CMV Myco pneumonia
1 year antibiotics on and off
2002 EBV, 2009 Positive Igenex Borellia and Babesia, Brain mri severe white matter disease
Monoclonal Gammopathy. On and off antibiotics since sept. March 9 started iv antibiotics

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I'm sorry about your dog, I know you feel awful.


quote:
Originally posted by maps:

I don't think I ask the right questions, I have never asked if it is even possible to get better while having Monoclonal Gammopathy, other than being told I have it nothing more has been said.


MGUS = monoclonal gammopathy of undetermined significance
This is an abnormal protein in the blood.

Regular monitoring of MGUS is the most important part of treatment.
No treatment is required for the abnormal protein, unless the condition progresses to multiple myeloma or another form of cancer.

In the majority of patients this progression does not occur.

The protein is produced by a group of cells in the bone marrow called plasma cells.
They produce the antibodies that help the body fight infection.

...over time, 20 percent of people will experience an increase in the amount of abnormal protein in their blood, which may develop into a more serious condition, including some forms of cancer.

Source: http://www.mayoclinic.org/monoclonal-gammopathy/

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I looked this up because I was not familiar with it.
They don't know what causes this condition.
They don't treat it, they just follow it.
"It is important to have blood tests every year."

I'm not even sure if this condition is causing any of your symptoms.


And then I found this:

Common Blood Disorder May Not be Linked to as Many Serious Diseases, as Previously Thought
Tuesday, August 25, 2009

ROCHESTER, Minn. -- A symptomless blood disorder, monoclonal gammopathy of undetermined significance, known as MGUS, is not linked to as many serious diseases as previously thought.

This finding may save patients from undergoing unnecessary workup and treatment...

MGUS has long been thought to be a precursor of serious disease...
MGUS is a fairly common disorder, affecting roughly 3 percent of the U.S. population.

Source: http://www.mayoclinic.org/news2009-rst/5396.html


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This disorder has no symptoms.
It is associated with other serious medical problems, including osteoporosis.

I'm willing to bet a buck that MGUS is due to tick borne infection.

Carol

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Have you trieed
1. lyrica-for neuropathy

2. gabapentin... can work up to taking massive amounts for neuropathy without fear of over dosee. I take 600mg x 8 and am allowed more. comes in generic. fairly cheap

3. flexeril-helps the weird flu like muscle aches that nothing else helps . also comes in generic

4. Iwas diagnosed bipolar and Depakote helps that, but I found it mellowed out my hypersensiivity. \might be just me.

5. cymbalta-i take it mainly for depression but it helps with th neuro itching

6. namenda- it's an alzheiemers drug, but it improved my cognitive abilities. I am not normal but I feel like I ha ve me back. I noticed a difference within three days/3 doses. very new med. likely to be pricey depending on your insurance

as you can tell I don't have a problem taking meds. as long as it improves the quality of my life, I'll try it

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maps,

I'm sorry that you are feeling so terrible and that you went through that with your dogs.

I'm so glad that your dogs seem ok now.

I am praying that your IV antibiotics go well for you and you notice some improvement.

The visiting nurse should be able to advocate on your behalf if you need something like pain meds.

It is her job to assess the entire situation and report to the Dr as needed.

It is my opinion also that you really need babesia treatment....Mepron/Zithromax/Artemesia.

I really feel for you, being alone with no one to call.

If I lived near you, I would help you.

Since I don't, I will pray for you.

Blessings to you for many better days ahead.

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Thank you all, I really appreciate the help.

Was sitting here typing when I realized my neuro appointmnet was in 30 min. Had to rush get dressed and get a cab.

Pretty useless appointment, my lesions do not compare to any other disease but all he can say is it wont do anyharm to try the antibiotics. Acutually should not say totally useless as he gave me a 40 lyrica to try.

Bubbarb, i see this is one of the medications you suggest.

I don't know a lot about it and i will have to find out if thier is any interaction with other stuff i take but at least it is a start.

Deckrator48, i know you are right about treating babesia, i have ordered some books from amazon. My infectious disease doctor has already told me he does not do co-infections and as i have not been improving i can see that he is thinking of giving up.

He said he has lost a little faith in igenex and the only justification he has to put me on iv are the lesions. So i am treading on thin ice as i do not want to loose him, travelling right now would be impossible.

Going to try to research lyrica and maybe post to see if anyone else is taking it. It would be awesome if i could get some improvements, at least in my quality of life.

Carol in PA, you have the same thoughts as i have, i think lyme has something to do with the blood disorder. I remember six years ago having a live blood anyalyzed and the guy pointed out how the white blood cells were very sparce and hardly moving.

Joalo, the dogs are all doing fine, I have two bleinham and one ruby, they are great little dogs especially when you are sick as they can lounge around all day and yet be perky whenever I brighten up.

All your posts have helped, thank you.

regards
maps

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1999 CFS, 2002 CMV Myco pneumonia
1 year antibiotics on and off
2002 EBV, 2009 Positive Igenex Borellia and Babesia, Brain mri severe white matter disease
Monoclonal Gammopathy. On and off antibiotics since sept. March 9 started iv antibiotics

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Glad your dogs are OK!! Now I just wish YOU were doing OK!!

Do you not have access to an LLMD??? Inf Disease drs are so lame and practically useless... as you are beginning to see.

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maps - I completely sympathize. I made the mistake about a month or so ago of leaving a part of an Armour Thyroid tab out on my kitchen table, only to find it gone when I woke up the next morning. Well, naturally, thought it was me misplacing it, till it happened again!

My silly fat cat was chewing them up! (Fortunately, just 1/2 a pill!) Didn't seem any the worse for it, but he's 11 years old and has never done those kinds of things before. Thought it was neuro sx's returning on me.

maps, I'm glad your sweetie-pies are okay. Don't know what I'd do for support without my furry creatures.

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Hi Maps,
I am glad your dogs are feeling better, I wish youi are too.

Just wanted you and others to know that the local Poison Centers may be able to help with animal issues involving any type of substance ingestions including meds. I don't know if you have one in Canada.

In the states the number is 1-800-222-1222, universal number. I used to work as a poison specialist for the State of New Jersey, would get calls like this all the time. most times we could assist.

Wish I had seen your post sooner, I would have called the NJ poison center as I know the staff and could of gotten you some info.

All calls to the Poison Centers are free!
Grace

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Thanks to everyone that replied. Yes I did call the animal poison center, they charged my thirty dollars to tell me to take them to the vets but funny though, they were located in the US [Smile]

Have not been back here very much and just realized how shocking my thread title would be to people so have edited it to show they are ok.

I do think I kinda of went into shock for a few days though, more from the realization that i could no longer depend on myself.

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1999 CFS, 2002 CMV Myco pneumonia
1 year antibiotics on and off
2002 EBV, 2009 Positive Igenex Borellia and Babesia, Brain mri severe white matter disease
Monoclonal Gammopathy. On and off antibiotics since sept. March 9 started iv antibiotics

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Hi Maps,
No I meant the Poison Center for people is free, and they can help with some animal issues, for free especially the common ones. The Animal Poison Center does charge a fee, because the vets are donating their time, but still costs of maintaining phone lines, etc.
Grace

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