Topic: How to get an Igenex test without seeing a doctor.
Jordana
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I just figured this out and don't see it posted anywhere.
You can go to Truehealthlabs.com and order a lyme panel through their site. They will send you a test kit. You can take it to any lab and have your blood drawn and send it back to them.
They will forward your blood to IGENEX, not Labcorp or Quest.
I verified this by email with the lab.
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Do you pay the lab for the draw? I know that IGENEX charges to process the sample, but don't know if the lab doing the draw charges also.
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Jordana
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Yes, but depending on where you go the draw fee might shoot straight to insurance.
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With Silver having Medicaid (through Amerigroup - see her post on them) I don't know if they would pay and it might lead to her losing benefits (yes they can).
With me having the VA, I definitely don't believe they will pay for it and might actually block me from getting it (yes they can refuse me service).
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Jordana
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I don't think draw fees are very much. I think on my bills it's somewhere around 70 bucks. If you don't want it filed no one has to know.
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MichaelTampa
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I had a blood draw in a lab about 5 years ago. This was the lab's business, they just took the blood draws and then sent it to Quest, LabCorp, or any other lab you wanted.
I believe they charged $15. I know it was a few years ago, but not that much for anyone desperately wanting IGeneX and with no other way to get it.
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Jordana
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Mine was at my hospital and billed by the system through insurance so that's why it was probably more.
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Tincup
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Brain is starting to wake up- oh no!
You'd need to be sure the sample kit from True Health has the ability/tubes/instructions, etc. to draw what IGeneX requires.
Labcorp for example may simply need one or two tubes of blood or serum, which True Health kits may provide for.
IGeneX requires some samples to be frozen, some shipped with dry ice, some stored at room temperature, some stored in fridge for X days before shipping, some arriving by X number of days, etc.
And the reason I question is because getting an IGeneX test years ago was purposely made nearly impossible. Many never were able to get them, me included sometimes, and I never got one without dreadful fighting the entire time.
Jordana
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It's not that they're being run without a doctor's signature.
The doctor's signature is from True Health Labs.
YOU don't need to see a doctor to get the test, but it will have a signature.
ETA: Most online test services work this way, but big corporate labs are cheaper. I think the signature is required because of something having to do with the CLIA rating.
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bluelyme
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My mum had her doc send kit ,had labcorps draw and medicaid paid...there is a section in igenix for to bill to them...? The doc called and said i dont think you have it. She then called igenix and requested a copy ...bypass ducks read bands etc etc
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Tincup
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Confused. Has anyone actually gotten an IGenex test using this True Health Lab?
Jordana
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Yes, Tincup.
Waiting for my results. I had them run the full panel which includes EIA, WB, and PCR; Bartonella and Babesia FISH.
I'll get it all back in six days. Posts: 2057 | From Florida | Registered: Feb 2015
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Tincup
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Great! Now, to be sure, you didn't need a doctor to sign any forms to get past the rule IGeneX has, right?
And, did you, if I may ask, have to pay a lot more than going thru IGeneX directly? I mostly get those people who are on a really tight budget or no budget at all many times, so that info will help me help them too, if you know.
I want to suggest this method, just don't want to have patients have problems once I do (or chew me out if they do). If you had to deal with getting tests like was the "norm" for too many years, you'd cry for joy to not have to go thru that mess ever again.
Thanks for any info you can provide... and for sure share your results!! I can't wait! I hope you are positive!!!
Normally I wouldn't wish that on someone, but I know how hard you've tried to get answers, so don't take that wrong. OK?
Jordana
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So - the doctor at True Health Labs signs the form. So technically I *did* need a doctor, but he works at True Health labs. To make this even more legal, the doctors there offer a consultation/interp of your results for a fee. In other words, they're not "just signing off" on a bunch of forms, they are offering medical consultation. But if you don't want it, well...
I did all the ordering online and took the test kit to the local hospital; they did the blood draw and actually fedexed it for me. Results come by email and the turnaround will be around a month; I think because I asked for PCR.
I think it is a little more expensive this way but I'm not sure. The Western Blot IGG/IGM was about 360 dollars not including the blood draw. The full panel with PCR was 630 dollars.
I think if you go see a regular doctor it's cheaper but I really don't know what Igenex charges.
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Tincup
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Hey, appreciate the response. Thanks!
You said.. "But if you don't want it, well..."
So sorry! Not trying to bug you, just want to get it right. Does this mean if you don't pay for the consult they won't sign off? I'm confused. (I know, hard to believe a Lyme patient can be confused so easily. HA!)
Thanks for sharing the costs so we will know. I can check IGeneX price on their site to make comparisons, if it is still listed there.
And thanks again for the info J. Great to know it to be able to help folks!
Jordana
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No what I meant was that if you don't want it, you can not select that option, and not pay for it.
The only reason I brought it up is that I don't want to get True Health Labs in trouble. What they're doing is completely legal so I want to make it very clear that there is nothing underhanded about this at all.
However I'm pretty sure there's a reason they're not blasting Igenex as a selling point on their website. No point borrowing trouble I imagine.
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Jordana
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BTW this was really a lifesaver for me. I was so confused, so tired, and so puzzled about why I could not just have this test. I tried a naturopath; they didn't have the correct credentials to sign off. I tried my neuro - nope, she said it wasn't "FDA approved." I asked the LLMD, he ignored this and gave me another WB through Quest.
By the time I was done with this I was ready to give up. When you're sick it's beyond impossible to figure this kind of thing out anyway, and getting to even one doctor's appointment requires energy I barely have.
So this is awesome. I ordered this test from my laptop in bed; got the test kit in the mail and had a relative print off the order form. I went one mile to the hospital lab and had my blood drawn. Done.
Then I went back to bed. Posts: 2057 | From Florida | Registered: Feb 2015
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This is good news to know! I actually got lucky and had a fully positive Western Blot through LabCorp from my regular GCP.
I don't understand why doctors won't help you get a test that you want, especially your LLMD!? You pay them good money out of pocket, they should order it for you if thats what you want!
But anyway, this is good info to pass along to others who want to be tested!
And yes I know what you mean by it being impossible to figure all of this out! Right now I am trying to get approved for disability because I am totally unable to work, trying to coordinate starting IV treatments for the first time next week, and getting ready to move to a different house. For a normal person that would be daily life but to a Lymie...well you know.
Hope your test results are what you want them to be! Posts: 66 | From New York | Registered: Sep 2015
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Tincup
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If someone wants to take the first step to find out if they have Lyme, after years of being sick with no explanation, which would be the first test. This question is for my nephew. His funds are limited. I see on the True health web site several test for Lyme. Where should he start?
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