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MADDOG
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Another example of the demise of this country.
A generation of evil people that love perverce stuff and hate good clean fun like a circus .
I hope someone can turn it around some day like mabey in a week or so.
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Keebler
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- It was not such good clean fun for the animals, though, even in the best of care, travel and performing on command is not a natural life for animals.
I do think there could have been ways to make it nicer for the animals and reinvent their focus entirely. But, audiences seem to want everything super sized and just blow the socks off out of this world. That gets expensive. -
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Keebler
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- Many zoos have made great headway as assessing animal needs and also offering entertainment to the public. Find out what the zoo closest to you might be up to as in our city, it's been a very exciting turn-around. -- and the animals don't have to have a grueling travel schedule. I can't imagine riding in trucks for miles and miles and month after month.
I have fond memories of the traveling circus as a child (but likely had no clue as to the hardships involved). The PBS series about the Big Apple Circus in NY a few years back explored the various issues involved even now as we know more and do better (and they had less travel than the B & B groups).
It might be worth it to see if the performers that circus which also has just closed and other circus performers are pulling together for any kinds of collaborations.
Talent can happen in various venues, for the good of all, too.
In a way, Cirque du Soleil is that reinvention. -
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Tincup
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Steve! How fun! Thanks for the pics! Made me smile!
Yes, so sorry to see them go. So was the little one I spoke to today. Luckily she saw them once. But, nevermore.
She was concerned about it, the little animal lover she is, and said... but what will the animals do now? That is what they live for!
Got to say on her most recent birthday she asked the kids coming to her party to not get her anything, but if they wanted they could bring an item for the local SPCA instead.
And that was her own idea! How sweet is that for a 2nd grader?
I found out later she had almost a full pick up truck load of special "gifts" for the animal shelter. (And as she said- LOTS of kitty liter! HA!)
Tincup
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Maddog, I agree. In my opinion, PETA is rather extreme and often forces their personal views on others rather than letting others do as they want or believe.
I understand and approve that if/when they see a specific un- justice- like severe animal cruelty- it is good to try to help, but they shouldn't try to shut down an entire industry and deprive others.
They seem to want to take away our right to do so many things. My thought is I won't push them to eat deer meat or a good catfish, so they shouldn't push me to give up cow's milk or spend a day hunting.
Quote- "PETA's animal rights campaigns include ending fur and leather use, meat and dairy consumption, fishing, hunting, trapping, factory farming, circuses, bull fighting ..."
They also want everyone to go vegan and stop buying milk and other dairy products. Fat chance that's going to happen. Not in my lifetime anyhow.
Elephants understand nature on a level we can’t duplicate, but they also share an abundance of traits with humans including the structure of their brains, their ability to mimic speech, and the broad range of emotions they experience.
By Tobias Fischer & Lara Cory, authors of book: “Animal Music: Sound and Song in the Natural World”
- 3 page article in UTNE Reader - January 2017
. . . [reference to] book The Elephant Whisperer . . . .
. . . Certain elements of their neural systems can be compared to those of humans, including the size and complexity of the hippocampus, the area linked to emotion, memory and spatial awareness.
In fact, their cerebrum temporal lobes, responsible for memory, are relatively much larger than those in human brains . . . .
Don’t think about (contagious) elephants: Whose job is it to combat and contain tuberculosis?
While federal agencies pass the buck on tuberculosis containment, zoo animals—and people—could keep getting sick
By Delcianna J. Winders - SALON.com - Feb. 19, 2017
As animal lovers mourn the death of iconic Oregon Zoo elephant Packy, who was euthanized because he carried drug-resistant tuberculosis, . . . .
. . . Packy wasn’t the only elephant at the Oregon Zoo to contract TB. Last year, seven people were diagnosed with tuberculosis after being around infected elephants at the zoo.
Other zoos across the country have struggled with the disease, including the
Little Rock Zoo, National Zoo, Oklahoma City Zoo, St. Louis Zoo and Rio Grande Zoo.
Virtually every American circus with elephants has a history of tuberculosis. Nine individuals contracted tuberculosis from a former circus elephant at a Tennessee refuge.
According to experts, tuberculosis is harbored by at least 18 percent of the Asian elephants in the United States — and 18 to 50 percent of Americans who work around elephants.
Many may think of tuberculosis as a disease of the past — I did myself, until two of my family members contracted the disease.
But according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, TB is a “pandemic, highly contagious disease” affecting up to one third of humans on the planet and killing more people than HIV and AIDS.
It is on the rise in America for the first time in 23 years. . . .
[Full article at link above]
About the author: Delcianna J. Winders is the Academic Fellow of the Harvard Animal Law & Policy Program. Her primary interests are in animal law and administrative law. -
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I'm sorry the circus closed but not sorry they arent dragging exotic animals around and chaining elephants for hours at a time so people can watch them do handstands.
Humans can be cruel,
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