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There are 3 columns of internal vessels that can turn into hemorroids. In my case all three did. I had my second ligation procedure done a couple of weeks ago. Had the two week post-op checkup last Wednesday. Doctor said first site healed really well, second, still healing. He decided to wait a few weeks before ligating the third column to give the second one a chance to heal some more and let the overall inflammation go down.
Then Friday AM @ 12:30 all hell broke loose. Woke up after an hour of sleep soaking wet with blood. Rushed to the ER. That ER xferred me to another hospital. Bled and passed clots for over 12 hrs. Bleeding stopped just as they were getting ready to administer a transfusion. They started a sigmoidoscopy at 9:00 AM but due to too much feces in the way, they terminated the procedure, sent me upstairs to have an enema, then repeated the Sigmoid three hours later. By that time the bleeding had stopped.
So I've been home since Friday late afternoon wondering with concern over how this blood loss might affect my overall condition.
Slept like a baby the past three nights. Have been taking it easy and trying to eat foods that support blood manufacture, i.e., spinach, raisins, beets.
So now, I don't know what to do from here about the remaining hemorrhoids.
My understanding is that hemorroids are caused by inflammation and can be brought on by various kinds of straining, pushing, and constipation.
Of course, Lyme patients already have a problem controlling inflammation, plus, we are prone to constipation due to coinfections, parasites, fungus, etc. So once a Lyme patient has hemorrhoids, I don't see how it's possible to get rid of them. For me, being a musician who plays a wind instrument that requires a lot of force, it adds another risk factor.
After Friday's experience I don't think I want to ligate the third column. More bad news: An external hemorrhoid is beginning to appear.
I've already done what I can with diet, avoiding foods that are conducive to constipation. I've tried herbal remedies and prescription topical applications. None of them had any effect at all.
Has anyone out there had any experience with hemorrhoids and had any success with getting them to go away while also battling Lyme? I would think that it's common among Lyme patients due to contributing factors.
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map1131
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I too have dealt with constipation the last several years. It then turned into a hemorrhoid problem also.
I found using levaquin, then switched to rifampin would do wonders for my GI track. Unbelievable how good it worked but....
The abx are just too much for the rest of my body. I gave up rifampin again after 2 months of continual herxing.
Within just a few days the constipation and GI problems are back. I've considered doing the laser treatment for hemorrhoids but know from experience if you don't get rid of the source(bartonella), other hemorrhoids will come about.
Pam
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Well, I have been rifing for Bartonella for about a month prior to this happening. I was progressing very quickly through the rifing because my herxes were not really that significant. I was even wondering if I even had Bart.
I've heard stories of people rifing for Bart and shedding their stomach linings, passing clots and bleeding.
I considered this as a possibility, but discounted it because my case of Bart didn't seem to be that bad. Also, when I was given the enema, the blood and clots were at the beginning of the bowel movement while the subsequent majority of it was clean stool. This indicates to me that the bleeding was emanating from the area of the hemorrhoids, not further up in the GI tract. The only way to know for sure would have been a colonoscopy or middle bowel study, which were not done.
I told the doctor about my rifing for bart and the possibility of shedding the stomach lining and he said that if that were the case, I probably would have felt a lot of pain, which I did not. All this felt like was diarrhea in the large intestine, not higher up.
Nevertheless, I'm a little afraid now after this harrowing ordeal to pick up where I left off with the rife treatment. For a while there, I was wondering if I was going to make it!
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Chaps, I'm a rifer also. Bart freqs help me knock it down but I've never found any that help with GI part of bart.
IMO your emergency was something caused by the surgery more than likely. I've never read anything about shedding of stomach lining.
I image you are frightened and unsure how to proceed. Are you familiar with any laser centers in your area?
Pam
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Thanks LT. Yes, it was a real nightmare. Of course, the doctor(s) never seem to disappoint in demonstrating the declining quality of healthcare today. The care is just terrible here in Florida. I'm not going to upset myself going into detail about the specifics of this occasion, but trust me, they are jaw-dropping.
No, I'm not familiar with any laser centers. What do they do, cauterize them?
I'm not sure how many people have shed their stomach linings from coiling for Bart, but reportedly, the inventor of the coil machine did.
Of course, things other than Bart can cause constipation. The amalgam fillings alone can cause dysreguations that in turn cause fungal overgrowth, parasites, etc. which all can constipate. Many medications can, too, but I'm not on any right now.
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You can get it at vitacost.
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Ginger will shrink them up quick...I found that by accident when rubbing it on for Lyme skin crawling.
Rub the root on external... Ginger tea for internal...
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I'm already taking plenty of magnesium. Helps keep the palps away.
I have a food allergy to ginger. Might try topically.
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I don't have hemorrhoids but I read about remedies for someone I know... I read that white oak bark is supposed to help.
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Thanks sparkle and thanks Lymetoo for continuing to look for me!
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