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whatayear
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Happy New Years!


I started humaworm two days and im breaking out in these little red bumps on my arms they looks like bites they are raised and itch, they show up about an hour or two after taking the pills. also im basically itchy all over.

my face has also started getting really oily which I have never had in my life.

stabbing pains all over my body

my face is red all over.

and the veins in my eyes are really red and my eyes burn and feel like there is glue around my eyeballs

my lymph nodes in my chest hurt

would humaworm cause die off like this? i dont feel any fatigue yet from it but im having all these wierd things happen and pain all over that i havnt been having at all.

If you have taken humaworm can you tell me what ur die off was like? how long does it last? can it get as bad as a lyme/co die off

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I just took Humaworm for the first time 3 days ago. The first day, no reaction but the second day, HERX!

I woke up feeling like I did not want to move from the bed. I felt overall fatigue and a dull headache emanating from the back of the neck. Joints were achy and everywhere where I normally feel soreness was a little more sore.

I drank lots of water and today it has cleared sigificantly, but I still feel it a little because I haven't stopped taking the Humaworm.

I'm not a doctor, but some of your symptoms (the bumps, the itching, the red face) sound like they could be an allergy to one of the herbs in Humaworm.

Allergies are nothing to mess with. You don't want to end up going into anaphylactic shock, it could be fatal.

A consultation with a doctor would be a good idea at this point.

I would stop taking the Humaworm until doing so because if it is an allergy, it's going to get worse with each dose you take.

Keep the Humaworm in the freezer to keep it fresh. The folks at Humaworm told me over the phone to do this. They don't have inventories of the stuff on hand. They grind it up and send it out upon order to ensure that you get fresh product. I guess some of the herbs lose their potency quickly. Whether you're storing or using the product, it's good to keep it in the freezer no matter what. This is what they told me.

This Humaworm must be some powerful stuff because one week before starting the Humaworm, I was on Paraphyte.

Paraphyte also produced a small herx on the second day of taking it, but days 3-7 it subsided.

Then I took Humaworm, and BAM! Another herx. So it must be killing things that the Paraphyte wasn't killing.

It's probably a good thing that I took the Paraphyte first, otherwise my initial herx from the Humaworm might have been a lot worse.

The ingredient lists show that Humaworm has a lot more different herbs that Paraphyte doesn't have.

Some of the ingredients are in higher amounts while just a couple are lower in comparison to the Paraphyte.

Anyway, good luck. I hope you're feeling better soon.

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Just an afterthought, I have heard of people getting a rash when rifing for Bartonella if they have a heavy load of it. Stabbing pains, particular in the feet and calves are also symptoms of Bart that show up when you kill Bart.

I never had enough of a load of Bartonella to actually know that I had it, but when I rifed for it, I felt the stabbing pains in the feet and the back of the legs as part of the herx from it. I never had a rash from it, though.

I heard a story about someone who ran a Bart frequency (832) and fell asleep for 45 minutes. The recommended time interval is 5 minutes. They ended up with a rash on their stomach from the Bart die-off, otherwise, they were none the worse for wear.

I wonder if some of the herbs in Humaworm actually kill Bart? It's a long-shot, but I suppose it's possible.

I still think it's more likely to be allergies.

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I had those little bumps and they turned out to be the parasites dying off. The gooey stuff coming out is part of the infection that the parasites produce.

I have had lots of that come out also. I had pain everywhere from the die off. You can really herx from this.

Make sure you drink lots of water and make sure you keep moving your bowels. You can always take a benedryl to help with some of the symptoms.

It is important not to stop antiparasitic tx after 30 days. You can rotate with some others, like Hulda Clark, Parastroy or Hanna Kroeger.

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Chaps,

I think you're on to something with the bart. I had bart dieoff with antiparasitics, and I remember seeing sixgoofykids posting that she thought she killed the bart with Humaworm.

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It can start a bart herx, too. You might take some Benadryl as mentioned above. Also, read over the Humaworm ingredients to be sure it doesn't contain anything you're allergic to.

Because of your combination of symptoms, it sounds like more of a parasite die off rather than an allergic reaction ..... but only you can make that call.

I got itchy with various detox stuff I did, I don't remember if it was the Humaworm specifically.

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Sounds like a herx.

I had strong reactions to humaworm and strong reactions to Kroeger's wormwood combo.

Keep at it.

The lymph nodes are filling with die-off so be sure to exercise (rebounder preferably) so you can get the lymphatic system going.

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Thanks everyone! I do have Bart so that could be part of it becuase my calves are hurting aswell. I dont think the bumps are from allergic reaction there is oozing stuff coming out of them.
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I Bart herxed on Humaworm.

I also got bumps that were similar to cystic acne. Very deep and painful and filled with pus. I know they were from parasite die-off, as I also got them with Albendazole and Mebendazole.

Drink water! You can also reduce the Humaworm dose to 1 capsule 2x/day and work up to the full dose.

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whatayear,

I think you are herxing. And after reading your post, i believe that i am as well. This is my second herx from Humaworm.

Exactly a week apart.

I have the red eyes, goopy discharge and in the morning there is a hazy film over my eyes. I saw my doctor who believed it was a virus in my eyes and that it would run its course....

I also ache everywhere...every joint, large to small...earache and massive headache. jaw pain too..

I cleared on tues, wed, thurs and friday and had some awesome days...i haven't had 4 good hays in over 4 years...but!

today it is back full swing and i'm literally in bed...chills too.

FWIW, I think it is possible that this hits bart too...have been weepy and aching feet and calves....

I am doing another treatment right now that *may* account for my 4 good days...it's called Medsonix...so not sure that humaworm actually made me feel good.

hang in there,
feelfit

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So what in Humaworm's formula do we think is hitting Bart?

Garlic?
Wormwood?

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I would have recommended Benadryl for allertic reactions, but I thought I read somewhere that Benadryl should be avoided by Lyme sufferers because like most anti-allergic medications, it suppresses the immune system.

I could be wrong, but I thought I recalled seeing that somewhere.

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Off subject, but both LLMDs I have seen recommend benadryl for strong herxes.

It is safe for LD sufferers to take.

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canefan,


It's not just the Humaworm that hits bart, it can be any of the antiparasitic herbs.

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If MedSonix works Feelfit, can I fly to FL and stay with you to get treatments? Kidding. Glad to hear you had awesome days. Wow.
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Gael,

Ya - I was just curious if there was evidence of specific ones hitting bart.

I have heard the following has an impact on Bart

Garlic (disrupts bart communication)
Knotweed (blocks VEGF - inflammation pathways)
Cats Claw (my experience is direct Bart herxes)
Wormwood
Phellendron
Gardenia

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Cane

Hmm, Interesting. I think the only 2 that I have seen in most parasite cleanses are garlic and wormwood. Wonder if wormwood, garlic and maybe blackwalnut hull are hitting it in combo also?

Glad you had good results with the Cats Claw.

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hum, i don't understand how antiparasitics can hit bartonella but that's good news. Does anybody know if stabbing pains in thehead can be from bart , lyme or babs?
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Knife-like pains in the head could possibly be ehrlichia/anaplasma...see page 27 of...

http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/B_guidelines_12_17_08.pdf

My second thought is Babesia.

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