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rajon
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Just a post script.

Maybe others on here, like me, have heard about Bryon White Formula's and the A-L Complex and are curious so if that's you, click the link. What you will see is the label on the bottle.

The one source I checked sells this formula for $89 and it contains 900 doses making it cost effective, imo, at 4 to 20 drops per day.

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It seems a bit expensive... I've seen mixed reviews of these products. It may be a good idea to look around or post a new thread to see if people are getting good results with these products.

With herbs, it usually takes longer for the results to pan out. If someone feels better right away, it might be the placebo effect. Nothing wrong with that but it does take time to see if things really are helpful in the long haul.

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PS - you may want to start off with a good parasite cleanse type of program. I think it may be a bigger issue with people in Lymeworld than most expected.
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Are you refering to something like this?

The Ultimate Parasite Solution

Do you think this is benificial and if so, how so?

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I've been noticing a number of references to Bryon White... what is it, and where did you first hear about it?
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CO,

It's in the link a few posts back up.

Bryon White

http://www.bioresourceinc.com/downloads/bwherbal/A-L%20Datasheet.pdf

and here's one too.

http://www.faim.org/newfrontiers/byronwhiteformulas.html

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Thanks for the link - it still doesn't explain where everyone heard about it, though? Was it through their LLMDs individually, through this board - or somewhere else?
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IDK, I heard about it here last week.
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@Camp

Both my NaturalPath and my LLMD (ILADS Certified)

use Byron White Herbals

Personally I would go with A-Babs or A-Bart before considering A-L

Bio-Resource only sells to Docs but there are places online where you can purchase the Herbs.

PM me if you need the Link


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Paul Mall,

So did you first post about Bryon White here, and that's how everyone knows about it? Or was it elsewhere? Just seemed like a lot of people were talking about it all of a sudden, and I wondered if a particular LLMD was recommending it for all of his/her patients.

Thanks for telling me more about it.

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Here is a link to a very thorough PDF you can print about the use of the BWFs.

I'm reading some interesting things about the BWFs.

The Missing Piece in Lyme Disease Case Management

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quote:
I believe the UNH Samento/Banderol study was funded by Turn the Corner Foundation.
I spoke to Eva Sapi, and that study wasn't funded by anyone but the university (her words). You're making assumptions, and unless she lied to me, your assumptions are wrong.
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People been talking about it long before me.

Most LLMD's or Naturalpaths treating Lyme are using this protocal.

It looks like you need some confirmation from the regulars here about how widespread the use is.

so if anyone else has experience with it please do post.

I share it will all my lyme friends because I have been feeling terrific on the A-babs and back in the Gym 3 days a week

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I want to know what's in it - thanks for the information.
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you can find the datasheet for the three formula's here

http://www.bioresourceinc.com/bwherbal/

the case studies are also very educational

the one I'm on A-babs has:

Gou Teng, Cat's Claw , Noni , Sam Bong , Neem , Curcuma Xanthorrhiza , and Yarrow

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I am confused, which are most people using - Byron White Herbals or Cowden? Which tends to be more successful?

I have met people getting well on the Cowden or modified Cowden. Not sure about the Byron White Herbals.

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Mepron/Zith/Ceftin
Doxy/Biaxin/Flagyl pulse.
Artemisinin with Doxy/Biaxin.
Period of Levaquin and Ceftin.
Then Levaquin, Bactrim and Biaxin.
Bactrim/Augmentin/Rifampin.
Mepron/Biaxin/Artemisinin/Cat's Claw
Rifampin/Bactrim/Alinia
Plaquenil/Biaxin

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the only 2 LLMD's I know personally both treat with Byron White Herbs

Paul

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Thanks Paul, do you know why they choose those over the Cowden?

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Mepron/Zith/Ceftin
Doxy/Biaxin/Flagyl pulse.
Artemisinin with Doxy/Biaxin.
Period of Levaquin and Ceftin.
Then Levaquin, Bactrim and Biaxin.
Bactrim/Augmentin/Rifampin.
Mepron/Biaxin/Artemisinin/Cat's Claw
Rifampin/Bactrim/Alinia
Plaquenil/Biaxin

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from what I understand the Byron white Herbs are 1:1 Herb to Alcohol ratio which is very potent

where most herbal tinctures are Near 4:1 (4 parts alcohol 1 part herbs)

I did not get information from the LLMD's as to why they prefer this protocal but I could get that information for you next month if I remember to ask.

Paul

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Thanks Paul, but couldn;t that be a bad thing? I know Dr. B says no alcohol since it can weaken immunity and also the body treats alcohol like sugar.

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Mepron/Zith/Ceftin
Doxy/Biaxin/Flagyl pulse.
Artemisinin with Doxy/Biaxin.
Period of Levaquin and Ceftin.
Then Levaquin, Bactrim and Biaxin.
Bactrim/Augmentin/Rifampin.
Mepron/Biaxin/Artemisinin/Cat's Claw
Rifampin/Bactrim/Alinia
Plaquenil/Biaxin

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I thought we were supposed to avoid alcohol?

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Mepron/Zith/Ceftin
Doxy/Biaxin/Flagyl pulse.
Artemisinin with Doxy/Biaxin.
Period of Levaquin and Ceftin.
Then Levaquin, Bactrim and Biaxin.
Bactrim/Augmentin/Rifampin.
Mepron/Biaxin/Artemisinin/Cat's Claw
Rifampin/Bactrim/Alinia
Plaquenil/Biaxin

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I don't think it's a big issue if you take a tincture (few drops) of alcohol. It's not like you are having a martini or something...

You can always put the tincture drops in hot water to evaporate the alcohol off. You may make the tincture a bit less potent, though. Depends on the herb... or how sensitive the person is.

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Actually puting them in hot water does not evaoporate the alcohol. There was a study that showed it takes about 2 hours to evaporate the alcohol.

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Mepron/Zith/Ceftin
Doxy/Biaxin/Flagyl pulse.
Artemisinin with Doxy/Biaxin.
Period of Levaquin and Ceftin.
Then Levaquin, Bactrim and Biaxin.
Bactrim/Augmentin/Rifampin.
Mepron/Biaxin/Artemisinin/Cat's Claw
Rifampin/Bactrim/Alinia
Plaquenil/Biaxin

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I have done oral abx, Cowden & Byron White (with Dr H) and the Byron White formulas - ABart & ALyme - are really really helping.
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So which address the more unknown issues better...the Cowden or Byron White formulas? At this point it looks like my issues may still be bart and babs hanging on but also this parasite Fry Labs found.

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Mepron/Zith/Ceftin
Doxy/Biaxin/Flagyl pulse.
Artemisinin with Doxy/Biaxin.
Period of Levaquin and Ceftin.
Then Levaquin, Bactrim and Biaxin.
Bactrim/Augmentin/Rifampin.
Mepron/Biaxin/Artemisinin/Cat's Claw
Rifampin/Bactrim/Alinia
Plaquenil/Biaxin

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Where can i get the Byron White stuff in germany [Wink] ?
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According to my LLNP, the Byrom White addresses things like parasites as well as Lyme et al.
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