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richedie
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I know some boedybuilders exist among us. I am by no means a giant man but I do like to bodybuild. Was really into it years ago and just recently got the bug. I have lifted pretty hard through my treatment and wonder if it has held me back.

Curious who amond us has done serious lifting through treatment and still progressed to recovery? At the end of summer I am considering stopping and instead doing light workouts, walking, etc for a few months to see what happens.

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I was also into body building for years . Since this illness I have backed way down , my workouts now consist mainly of riding the bike for cardio and lifting moderate amounts of weight . The fatigue gets the best of me most days which is the prime reason for me backing off . I look forward to the day I can hit it hard again [Smile]
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I mainly lift weights for exercise. But I rest plenty in between, 2 days of rest between workouts. Fatigue has not been that much of an issue with me. Sometimes I don't seem as strong as I am on other days. In some ways, I am stronger than before I was before being infected.
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I got tired of not getting 100% better so I went back to a two days on, one day off routine.

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Period of Levaquin and Ceftin.
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Bactrim/Augmentin/Rifampin.
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I don't have whatever y'all have. I couldn't function one bit if I tried to lift heavy weights. We definitely have different diseases!! [Smile]
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I continued to train as a bodybuilder for my first few years sick. Gradually my volume and intensity and frequency went down. Then after a short while I couldn't work out at all anymore. But I could still work. Then, a few years later, I couldn't work anymore. Now my muscles are so weak, legs in particular, that I can't do anything that strains them. For my legs, this means bending my knee and putting any tension on my quads. Any exertion sends me into very bad post-exertional fatigue, and GI and neuro syx. Among others...

My story is not typical.

But, yes, I believe hard training at the beginning of illness made things much worse.

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I continue to train hard but I notice no difference one way or another

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Period of Levaquin and Ceftin.
Then Levaquin, Bactrim and Biaxin.
Bactrim/Augmentin/Rifampin.
Mepron/Biaxin/Artemisinin/Cat's Claw
Rifampin/Bactrim/Alinia
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I've noticed that being immobile makes it 1000 times worse. Working too hard knocks the crap out of me.

Dr Buriscano (spelling) recommends keeping active, I think that is so you metabolize the toxins rather than let them build up in your system. The problem with that is finding your individual limits, limits which change constantly.

You have to work enough to burn off the toxins, which is really unpleasant, but not work so hard that it causes weeks or months worth of muscle/nerve pain.

Getting back going after being laid up is really uncomfortable, to put it mildly. Overdoing it will shut you down, as I am currently experiencing. I am making sure the couch stays where it belongs right now. For about 6 weeks I was doing really well, too well and over did it. I've been down for almost a month now trying to find the correct activity level to keep the toxin level down without burning out again.

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The first year or so all I could do is walk for exercise, and that was an effort.

As time went on I made myself workout weights/ cardio. The Fatigue was terrible but, I kept at it.

For the first couple of years I couldnt sweet, not one drop. Now I seem too sweet as most normal people do, I guess.

Im not interested in hours of lifting anymore; just working out these days is fine with me.
Heres what I do most weeks: Two day on and one day off.

I do about 30-40 minutes of each Weights/Cardio/Stretching. After all my workouts I spend about 15 minutes in the steam-room. Then of cause, a long shower to rinse the BUGS off!

I still have good and bad days but, the fatigue is much better than before. I really believe this is due to continuing to workout, even when I thought I was going to die.

We all need to keep active, do something Do whatever you can!

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quote:
Originally posted by nomoremuscles:
I continued to train as a bodybuilder for my first few years sick. Gradually my volume and intensity and frequency went down. Then after a short while I couldn't work out at all anymore. But I could still work. Then, a few years later, I couldn't work anymore. Now my muscles are so weak, legs in particular, that I can't do anything that strains them. For my legs, this means bending my knee and putting any tension on my quads. Any exertion sends me into very bad post-exertional fatigue, and GI and neuro syx. Among others...

My story is not typical.

But, yes, I believe hard training at the beginning of illness made things much worse.

That's exactly what happened to me.

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i had to stop exercising for the last year (after i did the INSANITY work out as seen on tv)

my body crashed so hard, I never got back up after that.

last week i did 4 days straight of physio-ball exercises!
I do walking when I find the time. But for me, i need to do stabilizing exercises that aren't too hard on me (like cardio and heavy weights are)

Slow/gradual progress....don't ya hate it!?! lol

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when i first got sick i couldnt really do anything. took a year off and lost a lot. after 4 months of treatment i went slowly into it and did what i could, which wasnt alot.

now its about 14 months into treatment and i workout with weight 4-5 times a week now. of course my treatment is working, i feel about 90% most days now, which is a long way from what i was.

i always pushed myself in the gym even when i was tired and didnt think i could do anything i went anyway because i believed that it would help. to tell you the truth when i pushed myself those days i felt better afterwards.

i not saying everyone should do what i do because i truly believe everyone of us has different symptoms, problems and everything else but it works for me.

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While i am no wher near 100% better. I am doing better than i was when i first got ill. That being said i have been able to keep up with a 40 hour work week through this ordeal....

I workout no more than 3 times per week, at least 1 day rest between workouts. A nap before and after working out is essential for me even if i can't sleep just lying and resting.

Last week i was proud of myself was able to throw up 60lb dumbells for benchpress x 12 and was able to hit 200lbs on pulldowns for back. While thats not alot of weight compared to years gone by its definately an accomplishment being in the shape i am in.

I think some type of physical activity is a must with this illness. If I'm going to workout it's going to be something i like. For me thats strength training/bodybuilding.

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I am not going to failure on the sets but I am not far from it either. I do pretty hard sets, enough to cause muscle growth so sometimes I wonder if I should take it easy and go really light. I told myself after the summer I am going to go very light for some time to see if it helps.

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Bactrim/Augmentin/Rifampin.
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I used to work out five days/week before getting ill.

Today, if I don't do extremely light workouts, I crash.

I think it's the EBV that causes that more than anything else.

Light means 8-12 min on the bike (easy, not intense) and one set of about 5 different exercise on the machines.

Can't work to cause any soreness, because that only increases detox burden (having to get rid of all that lactic acid) and risks the crash.

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Work as much as you can but do not lift weight everyday.

For people that can not do much or are very sick try to weigh lift weights that you can lift at least 12 times and monitor your heart rate, stop if it goes 140 beats per minut.

Also between series make sure to reast so your heart beat have at least 2 minutes to reast or as much as it needs to go near normal heart rate.

No chance that somebody with chronic desease will have quality life or beat a desease without exercise.

If you dont give to your body vitamins minerals and aminoacids before and after exercise you will be more sick with exercise .

Everybody should make the model of exercise that works for his health and his body .

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quote:
Originally posted by chaps:
I used to work out five days/week before getting ill.

Today, if I don't do extremely light workouts, I crash.

I think it's the EBV that causes that more than anything else.

Light means 8-12 min on the bike (easy, not intense) and one set of about 5 different exercise on the machines.

Can't work to cause any soreness, because that only increases detox burden (having to get rid of all that lactic acid) and risks the crash.

But, Dr B suggests lifting with weights. Even light weights to 15 reps 3 times a week can cause some muscle soreness.

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Artemisinin with Doxy/Biaxin.
Period of Levaquin and Ceftin.
Then Levaquin, Bactrim and Biaxin.
Bactrim/Augmentin/Rifampin.
Mepron/Biaxin/Artemisinin/Cat's Claw
Rifampin/Bactrim/Alinia
Plaquenil/Biaxin

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Well, if I were Dr. B's patient, I'd go back and tell him that my body is telling me that it can't handle this level of activity in its current state of disease.

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Well, he says when you can handle it. I know I can handle it because I certainly feel great when lifting hard, and don;t feel any worse the day after. Only thing is, I just never seem to get rid of my remaining symptoms which are coming and going of foot pain, left arm pain, and upper back pain.

For now, I am going hard but I am staying away from my heaviest weights, like 100lbs and over for dumbell presses. Instead I will stick with the 12-15 rep range with lighter weights and I only go up in weight if I can stay in that range.

I am lifting Monday-Tuesday and Thursday-Friday.

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Bactrim/Augmentin/Rifampin.
Mepron/Biaxin/Artemisinin/Cat's Claw
Rifampin/Bactrim/Alinia
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I've got EBV and HHV-6 and I think the viruses are the ones that are exercise intolerant.

I don't think Lyme and co's are as exercise intolerant as the viruses.

As I type this, I just got in from cutting my lawn and pruning an oak tree with a bow saw! [bonk]

My crashes usually occur about 2 to 3 days after the offending event, so we'll see what happens Thursday and Friday.

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quote:
Originally posted by METALLlC BLUE:
quote:
Originally posted by nomoremuscles:
I continued to train as a bodybuilder for my first few years sick. Gradually my volume and intensity and frequency went down. Then after a short while I couldn't work out at all anymore. But I could still work. Then, a few years later, I couldn't work anymore. Now my muscles are so weak, legs in particular, that I can't do anything that strains them. For my legs, this means bending my knee and putting any tension on my quads. Any exertion sends me into very bad post-exertional fatigue, and GI and neuro syx. Among others...

My story is not typical.

But, yes, I believe hard training at the beginning of illness made things much worse.

That's exactly what happened to me.
That sucks, Metallic. I am sorry you've had to deal with this too. At this point function has gotten so bad that any walking is difficult for me.

Reading the variety of responses on this thread, it is clear how different a disease this can be from patient to patient. And, interestingly enough, I was one of the ones that my first LLMD was SURE would go on to a full remission, as I was -- at the time -- young, male, in good physical shape, and very nutrition conscious. Oh well.

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quote:
Originally posted by chaps:
I used to work out five days/week before getting ill.

Today, if I don't do extremely light workouts, I crash.

I think it's the EBV that causes that more than anything else.

Light means 8-12 min on the bike (easy, not intense) and one set of about 5 different exercise on the machines.

Can't work to cause any soreness, because that only increases detox burden (having to get rid of all that lactic acid) and risks the crash.

My wife was reading and stumbled on an article that says lactic acid is a natural antibiotic.

One source
http://www.ijdvl.com/article.asp?issn=0378-6323;year=1979;volume=45;issue=2;spage=149;epage=161;aulast=Pasricha;type=0

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Ok you all must be guys right? And like Seekhelp said we must not all have the same disease! LOL

I take a shower (the whole process now takes a good 90 minutes due to my Hickman line)... when I'm done I need to lay down. I can't imagine working out right now!

Now I do recall every Lyme Doctor I talked to said NOT to do aerobic exercises... and only anaerobic exercises. Stretching before each body part and working on whole body. I don't remember why we can't do aerobics though...

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Aerobics push your heart, Lyme toxins hurt your muscles, thus, hurt your heart when doing aerobic exercise.

Dr. Burrascano says exercise is required to get well. He also says that aerobic is bad. He is the one most Lyme doc's quote.

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