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2doggies
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Hi,

I was told that borrelia like magnesium and that Dr. K advises not to take oral magnesium but to use topical magnesium like mag oil. Is anybody familiar with this and is it true? It makes no sense to me since borrelia are in the blood among other places IIRC.

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I am curious about this, too

maybe the advice is taken out of context and the context is GI problems??

Maybe all the MG in the gut keeps the gut infection high and keeps us unable to abosorb nutrients proper because of inflammation??

just guessing here

mayeb someone knows somthing? Please respond...

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Yes, I would love to know because I just stopped taking Vitamin C due to high oxalates in my body. So now I am back to being constipated. I know oral mag would help with that.

anybody know?

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Harmony
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what are oxalates?

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Harmony
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hm - I'm not real experienced - relatively new here

but I took a product named "Calm"

( it is a citrus-tasting Mg powder you fizz in warm water and drink like a tea)

and it gave me diarrhea, I think

so that may help you if you can have that

my nutritionalist told me it was good stuff - but she is not a Lyme expert

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Harmony
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oh and she said to take a little at first and then up the dose

but when I start getting diarrhea, it is too much

so I think this stuff will loosen your stool if you take too much

so you can regulate it yourself (within reason - it has instructions on the product),

and see much you want to take and see if it helps you constipation (I hate that, too)

other may have better advice...

but again, that is Mg in the gut, just liek the pills

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www.magnesiumdirect.come

Transdermal Mg. MIX 50/50 with water, or it will burn. Use to bowel tolerance.

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Magnesium citrate got me off my beta blockers! It has made a life changing difference for me. I never used topical magnesium.

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ping - I use my txdermal mag straight not diluted. To my knowledge, magnesium can cause diarrhea because it draws water into the colon. Since transdermal mag goes straight into the blood stream I don't see how it would have the same effect??

lululymemom - I was taking 1,000 to 1,400 mg mag citrate at night and it did nothing for my tachycardia.

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2doggies, I tried different brands of magnesium, some of which did nothing for me either. I found Natural Factors to work the best even though it's not the most expensive. I also pair with CoQ10. I had tachycardia that was so bad I would end up 3 days in intensive care in the hospital.

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My tachy seems to be from POTS. Is that what you have lululymemom? Although, I am hesitant about taking oral mag now after reading that it's not recommended with Lyme.
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Pages 6 and 28 of the Burrascano Guidelines say that magnesium is a required supplement.

So, you have to decide who you believe.

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nonna05
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but does 6&28 or any other page say if it's OK in pill form or because the KETTS love this ,you have to get mag. another way??????

does anybody know???

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My llmd requires me magnesium malaete too.

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how much should we supp with?

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Harmony
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tricia, have you done a blood test for Mg levels?

mine was low but within normal range, so maybe I don't really need it at this point

my test was free because the HMO did that one - phew! - so I did it and D level and B level

mine are all low but within normal, so I fell fine to go without the supplement for the time being, espcially since it is possibly harmful and expensive in Lyme

the lab test has helped me to decide / feel more calm about that decision

unless my LLMD will say that I need higher levels

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What is the best type of mag to take (orally)
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My LLMD looked at my bottle of Mag. I got it at the Health food store. TwinLab is the name, they are Magnesium Caps 400mg.

I was taking 1 cap, 1st time I had a normal bowel movement in 2yrs. Then back to constipation.

LLMD said I could take 2 or up to 3 until I got diarrhea.

That I should keep my muscles loose. That it is not a good thing to be constipated.

Everyone is different.

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LLMD also suggested CALM for my granddaughter, as she has a constipation problem.

I'm going to get her tested for Lyme, found out she had a tick on her last July.

Noticed she wakes up at night. sweating, cries & itches.

I ask her "what's wrong". States she doesn't know.

Her lovely mother never took her to doctors.

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I posted this on the other Mag thread but will repost it here. I have been using Magnesium Oil for about a year....but not daily I do take cal/mag tabs daily

I got my mag. oil here and it has helped tremendously with my heart palpitations, and leg spasmas...I spray on legs, arms bottom of feet where ever.....and within 20 min. palpations are gone.

http://www.swansonvitamins.com/Search?keyword=magnesium+oil&doSearch=true&ntt=&n=0&ntk=Level1&x=30&y=3

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Is there never a LLMD that responds?????????So many of us need to know. If not then a huge mistake, that is so simple, can make things so much worse than they are.

Like not knowing steroids are the worst thing you can do with any of this. Yet many get shots for pain or Prednisone for whatever, even nose sprays have steroids.

I went from partial management of symptoms to the big time fight. Eight hours after 4th shot everything in system went nuts.

So is Mag. OK or not ???? Orally or not?????

My doctor wont answer questions until my visit on the 4th of October.

[confused] [bow] [dizzy] Nonna

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No. LLMD's do not post here. ( unless under an assumed name!)

There would be as many differences in opinion among the doctors as there are differences in LN members' opinions!

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