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GiGi
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Read the fine print on your supplement bottles

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/04/17/Why-Taking-Supplements-Could-be-Hazardous-to-Your-Health.aspx

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Toppers
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GiGi thanks for posting this. A high quality Solgar Vitamin C brand I've been taking is loaded with this stuff (staerate). It's interesting that I've felt worse since taking it.

Thanks for the heads up.

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Lymetoo
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more here:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/102126?#000008

(re-hash)

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/108803?#000001

(refers to the first link)

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Why in the world are all the supplement companies putting this in their pills? Even the companies with a good reputation, who have very expensive pills, add this to everything.

Are there any companies which are known to purposefully exclude magnesium stearate from their products?

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New Chapter doesn't as far as I know.
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Thorne doesn't use it.
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See the link above, James. The first one I posted.

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Thanks for all the info.

One thing I'm confused about is that the one study that the above study links to, refers to how stearic acid formed biofilms IN VITRO only. I don't see any studies of IN VIVO effects.

Can we be so conclusive about what happens inside the body by looking at one in-vitro study?

Is there more information/studies that I am missing out on?

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Haley
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wow, I just looked at my plethora of supplements..... they almost all have this ingredient.... magnesium stearic. what's a girl to do.
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I'm pretty sure that Pure Encapsulations does not use mag stearate.

Thorne uses silicone dioxide which is also toxic.

The less expensive the supplement I've found, the more mag stearate it has it in. Not to say that expensive supplements don't have it in there but the less expensive use a lot of it to save money.

I try to stay away from anything in capsule made by NOW.

There are a few companies out there if you google around but they tend not to have a large variety.

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More here

http://www.ecoviva.com/html/nutritional-supplements.html

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Abxnomore knows it all on this subject. [Smile] Check with that user.
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What about this study stating exactly the opposite?
http://www.wellnessresources.com/studies/stearic_acid_helps_prevent_biofilm_formation/
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man even the bottle of TeGreen I just got has one of these...
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would stearic acid be a culprit as well? fer crying out loud it is in every last one of my supps.
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Oh for goodness sake I just checked all my supplements and 90% of them have one or both of those things!! Now what??

I guess I'll just finish them off and buy the new stuff for the baby...

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Mo
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i try to get as much as i can in whole plant extract or liquid form..or loose powder.

no stearates in there, and the nutrients/medicines are made much more available to you that way.

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quote:
Originally posted by whitmore:
What about this study stating exactly the opposite?
http://www.wellnessresources.com/studies/stearic_acid_helps_prevent_biofilm_formation/
Sue

It seems that more sensational assertions get more traction than peer reviewed data...at least around here. [Roll Eyes]
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which one is right?
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If one cannot find several corroborating sets of data from trusted sources, I suggest as a rule of thumb to simply ignore everything Mercola has to say. In my times on the forum where there is a "panic" over a product or supplement originally thought to be healthful or neutral is stated to be incredibly harmful, 75%+ of the time it seems to be Mercola making the accusation.

The inference on that site seems to be "Anything I don't make, is going to poison and kill you". His assertions about cookware and agave nectar are enough to disqualify him as looking out for patients health - he seems to be looking out for his wallet more than anything else. I'm not saying that he never says anything correct - he often repeats well understood information in the supplement community, but he has a huge conflict of interest in a number of products.

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"Magnesium stereate is a very common fatty acid found in meat, poultry, fish,grains, butter and dairy products"

More here

http://logosnutritionals.com/articles/naturalhealthgener/ismagnesiumstearat/

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http://www.wellnessresources.com/health/articles/the_facts_on_magnesium_stearate/
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Bluemoon - awesome link! Thanks
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Blackstone,

I totally agree with you! Orginally years back he didn't have so many products of his own and his articles were more believable.

Now he just seems to want to discredit other supplements so that he can sell "his own". Very dissapointing but I guess greed gets the best of us!

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Bluemoon,

Good article. Just one caviat, Dr. Berscano mentioned that if one is taking antibiotics one should stay away from Magnesium and Iron, since both contribute to biofilms.

His idea is that biofilms are made up of minerals and even heavy metals so these could contribute to that.

Now he didn't say which kind of Magnesium, so I'm not sure if the Steric Acid mentioned in the article is different maybe?

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