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Liz D
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A friend told me about someone who had 'cured' lyme using organic sulphur crystals. Have any of you used the product or know anything about it?
I sence it may be hogwash but who knows? Any input appreciated. Thx Liz

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I did not find much of substance from an advanced Google search. It's best to track down the person who made the statement / had the good experience, talk to them directly and get exact details.

I'd like to know more, so I hope you can come back and post the specifics, even if just a lead.

THEN take that to a LL ND for their advice. It's best to have a combined approach and expert guidance.

Sulfur is in garlic and allicin (a concentrated component of garlic).

Not everyone can tolerate sulfur and those with the MTHFR consideration need to be careful. (Search: Amy+Yasko, MTHFR )

This might be of interest:

Allicin (from Garlic), Coptis, Smilax are key here:

http://tinyurl.com/5drx94

Lyme Disease and Modern Chinese Medicine - by Dr. QingCai Zhang, MD & Yale Zhang

web site: try www.sinomedresearch.org

Passwords: "clinic" and then "clinic" again

or call for help: Hepapro - www.hepapro.com
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If you are interested in methods other than pharmaceutical, or along with pharmaceuticals:

It's best to consult with an ILADS-educated LL (lyme literate) doctor who has completed four years of post-graduate medical education in the field of herbal and nutritional medicine -

- and someone who is current with ILADS' research & presentations, past and present.
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http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/2/13964

How to find an ILADS-educated LL:

N.D. (Naturopathic Doctor);

L.Ac. (Acupuncturist);

D.Ay. (Doctor of Ayurvedic Medicine);

D.O.M. (Doctor of Oriental Medicine);

Integrative / Holistic M.D., etc. (Be aware that those in this category can have various levels of formal herbal &/or nutritional education, perhaps even just a short course. Do ask first.)

Links to many articles and books by holistic-minded LL doctors of various degrees who all have this basic approach in common:

Understanding of the importance of addressing the infection(s) fully head-on with specific measures from all corners of medicine;

knowing which supplements have direct impact, which are only support and which are both.

You can compare and contrast many approaches.

BASIC HERBAL EDUCATIONAL & SAFETY links,

BODY WORK links with safety tailored to lyme patients,

LOW HEAT INFRARED SAUNA detail,

BIONIC 880 (& PE-1) links, and

RIFE links.
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The 2012 ILADS Austria Lyme Disease Conference

-- program is available now as a CD for PCs and MACS.

The CD includes 14 slide presentations from the Plenary Sessions in pdf format as well as nearly 200 pages of evidence based medicine written submissions to the July 30, 2009 IDSA hearings in Washington in pdf format.

See content at link above.

The CD is fully searchable and is a valuable tool when searching for the evidence underlying treatment recommendations.

Order the CD for $40.00 and $4.00 shipping and handling domestically or $5.00 internationally . . .

Among many presentations, you will find:

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And

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Liz D,

Maybe your friend was talking about the dietary supplement MSM (Methylsulfonylmethane) because MSM powder is sometimes referred to as organic sulfur crystals.


Supposedly, MSM has antipathogenic properties. And some people have reported that it has helped them to control or even cure them of various health problems.

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Just in case some of you are interested in the potential antipathogenic properties of MSM (methylsulfonylmethane) aka organic sulfur crystals.


http://tinyurl.com/cy3lll7

http://tinyurl.com/cwf39no


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http://www.naturalnews.com/029263_sulfur_joint_health.html

A news article on MSM from Natural News.

Please ask him which brand he used and exactly what the results were. Did he mainly have joint problems? Did he have coinfections:

Natural News likes a specific brand. I thought they were a pretty reputable source but not sure.

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thanks everyone. my friend bought me a bottle of MSM so am going to give it a whirl. It cant hurt, and cant be worse than no treatment at all. After all - we dont have lyme 'here'. ggggrrrrrrrrr
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I used MSM for years. It did not cure lyme. Still, it helped tremendously to relieve pain.

You will need other methods, too. Not sure if you have a LLMD or LL ND but hope so. There are some in B.C., others in Seattle, WA area.

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As with anything you take, it's good to get your LL doctor's advice. If that is not available - or even it if is - you'd want to read all about it before starting.

To get you started:


lymenotlite's link above to the Natural News site - a very good site


Nothing of substance right off the bat from a Google search of: Methylsulfonylmethane, Borrelia

[Though some LL doctors may suggest this as a support supplement]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylsulfonylmethane

Methylsulfonylmethane (MSM)


http://www.vrp.com/dispatcher?search=Methylsulfonylmethane&type=ARTICLES&sortOrder=RELEVANCE&pageSize=10&page=1


From the Library of Vitamin Research Products

A Search for MSM was not as specific as needed.

Search: Methylsulfonylmethane - 27 articles


http://search.mercola.com/search/Pages/results.aspx?k=Methylsulfonylmethane

Mercola's site has 29 articles


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Methylsulfonylmethane

PubMed Search of medical literature

Methylsulfonylmethane 160 abstracts

Methylsulfonylmethane, pain 17 abstracts

Methylsulfonylmethane, joints 4 abstracts
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Sulfa drugs were the first antimicrobial drugs, and paved the way for the antibiotic revolution in medicine, they were used before Penicillin was developed.
The original antibacterial sulfonamides (sometimes called sulfa drugs or sulpha drugs) are synthetic antimicrobial agents that contain the sulfonamide group

Sulfamethoxazole (abbreviated SMZ or SMX)[1][2][3] is a sulfonamide bacteriostatic antibiotic.

It is most often used as part of a synergistic combination with trimethoprim in a 5:1 ratio in co-trimoxazole (abbreviated SMZ-TMP and SMX-TMP,[4] or TMP-SMZ and TMP-SMX), also known under trade names such as Bactrim, Septrin, or Septra; in Eastern Europe it is marketed as Biseptol. Its primary activity is against susceptible forms of Streptococcus, Staphylococcus aureus (including MRSA), Escherichia coli, Haemophilus influenzae, and oral anaerobes. It is commonly used to treat urinary tract infections. In addition it can be used as an alternative to amoxicillin-based antibiotics to treat sinusitis. It can also be used to treat toxoplasmosis and it is the drug of choice for Pneumocystis pneumonia, which affects primarily patients with HIV.

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There can be some confusion between sulfur - and sulfa drugs. They are not the same thing.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sulfonamide_%28medicine%29

Sulfonamide or sulphonamide is the basis of several groups of drugs.

The original antibacterial sulfonamides (sometimes called sulfa drugs or sulpha drugs) are synthetic antimicrobial agents that contain the sulfonamide group.

Some sulfonamides are also devoid of antibacterial activity, e.g., the anticonvulsant sultiame.

The sulfonylureas and thiazide diuretics are newer drug groups based on the antibacterial sulfonamides.1

Sulfa allergies are common,2 hence medications containing sulfonamides are prescribed carefully.

It is important to make a distinction between sulfa drugs and other sulfur-containing drugs and additives, such as sulfates and sulfites, which are chemically unrelated to the sulfonamide group, and do not cause the same hypersensitivity reactions seen in the sulfonamides. . . .

- full entry at link above.
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Thank you Keebler for clearing that up.....I thought the sulfa drugs were derived from a base of Sulfur

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