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ItsMyTurn
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I know there is a link somewhere. Anyone have any good info? Thanks
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I saw a doctor that freaked me out when she said people do not die of lyme disease; after years of lyme, they get cancer or auto immune diseases and die from that.

She was a novice at the methyl cycle mutations. I believe the connection is people who become chronically ill have a lot of mutations that predispose them to illness - period. It isn't just one thing. It is many. Cardiovascular disease, auto immune disease, cancer, ADD/ADHD, autism, dementia etc.

Certain mutations predispose you to certain problems. If you look at your genetic history and then your family history you will see the connection.

Also, with genetic mutations, you are less tolerate of the environmental pollutants, heavy metals and garbage we live with in todays world. THe reason we stay sick is because our immune systems are weakened by the mutations. Our bodies cannot make enough glutathione etc.

It all makes perfect sense when you begin to learn about it. The great news is it can all be fixed - by passed - so we function more normally.

If it was not lyme disease, it would eventually be something else. We are the canaries in the coal mine.

I strongly believe if you get tested, supplement and eat according to what your body needs, you can get and stay healthy. Of course you will need antibiotics but they will be much more effective.

If you also take LDN, you can probably prevent cancer.

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Thank you. Waiting on results from husband's prostate biopsy. Everything I have read points to cancer.

I have read somewhere on this forum that doxy keeps cancer in remission. Is this true?

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What is LDN?
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Low Dose Naltrexone

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I've never read anything about Doxy keeping cancer in remission. If that was the case, wouldn't all cancer patients be on it and there would be news flashes around the globe on it?

Nothing scientific to that one I'm afraid. Google it to confirm.

My llmd has said the same as what nefferdun was saying as far as lyme/co-infections turning into auto immune and or cancer. I think there is a link maybe between our DNA not fighting infections and in turn our cells 'turn' on each other easier. I'm not a dr. so do not base anything on a person opinion please.

There are labs trying to figure out the process of untreated lyme/co infections turning into auto immune, but nothing has been proved yet.

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https://sites.google.com/site/marylandlyme/lyme/cancer-doxycycline-studies
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Read Hulda Clarks book "The Cure For All Cancer"

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RECOGNIZED AS THE NUMBER 1 CO-INFECTION IN LYME DISEASE BY ILADS*

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For some reason the antifungal drug ketaconazole has properties against prostate cancer and is given as a treatment for it. It's a common drug for yeast and other internal and skin fungus.
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ItsMyTurn,

A start to your research:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Borrelia%2C+Cancer&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Google search: Borrelia, Cancer

Then, cross search at ILADS: www.ilads.org
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Itsmyturn, I looked at your article and googled some more. The article you posted is from 2004.

In the last eight years, has anyone done anything with the findings in mice? The article stated it could be different in humans.

One would think that if this finding was really conclusive, that they would be going forward with it more?

Wish Doxy would be an answer to cancer treatment... wish bugs wouldn't keep biting me either and spreading their germs.

I do believe what my llmd has said and is studying in how there is a relationship with vector borne diseases and cancer. He has not published any findings yet.

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Thanks everyone! I will continue researching and post what I find. I have read that cancer is also an opportunist disease so it makes sense that if our immune system is low then Cancer has a chance to grow.

Don't mind saying that I am really scared for my husband.

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Lyme disease and coinfections create chronic inflammation. Chronic inflammation plays a role in the development of cancer.

long-standing inflammation secondary to chronic infection or irritation predisposes to cancer.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1994795/


I was sick with undiagnosed Lyme disease for at least 3 years before being diagnosed with breast cancer. I was finally diagnosed with Lyme 2 years later.

The ND who was my PCP for several years after I completed cancer treatment, told me that my Lyme disease diagnosis and treatment was one of the most important things I was doing to prevent another cancer.

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I may need to find another LLMD because when I found out about his PSA level, I called our LLMD and asked about the connection.

She had no clue. I'm not a dr. but I can certainly see how they are linked.

This makes me mad. He has complained of bone pain for six months now. That really worries me. I just dismissed it as another Lyme symptom.

We will find out today.

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Results came back negative. Sorry if I'm not jumping for joy because I still have my reservations.

Biopsies do come back negative even if cancer is present, and with his PSA test results, he should get a second opinion and second biopsy.

But everyone is elated and right now I don't want to be the one to rain on the parade.

We are just going to keep a watch on his levels and go from there. We can't forget that he still has Lyme and that is a full time job.

Thanks to everyone. (I hope I'm wrong)

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That's good news, ITSMY.. Take it as that. When will he be checked on the PSA again?

Get him on Curcumin. Helps inflammation and has action against cancer.

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Tamoxifen blocks chloride channels.

So does Frontline (for our dogs to protect them from lyme)- but it impacts glutamate gated chloride channels in the TICK (humans don't have glutamate gated chloride channels but do have other chloride channels)which we CAN make use of since they appear to be very active in lyme.

Google:

Berberine cancer

What the heck, go here:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21613449


I know of one lyme patient who EVENTUALLY developed breast cancer and another who died from pancreatic cancer. Il-1B and pancreatic insulin relasing cells implicated.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12235117


ONGOING INFLAMMATION = cancer. This is KNOWN!!!

Gotta get the inflammation down AND hit Bb.

I have over 20 files on curcumin. I was hopeful.

It didn't work to cure lyme nor to help with the massive ongoing inflammation (my sis)and destructive osteoarthritis. She tried it for several months.

Please seriously consider this:

http://www.amazon.com/GlycoX-250-Berberine-250mg-Capsules/dp/B007CMOLV8/ref=pd_sim_hpc_3

I would try one capsule 3x/day with meals. The dosages appear very safe.

One month...pause for 2 weeks (pulse) and then resume.

Berberine lowers IL-1B.

If lyme/Bb is the underlying cause...consider two year treatment...pulsing.

Probiotics always - daily...and vary the kinds.

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