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sparkle7
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I've seen these bugs when I lived in the south... It's also spread through food.

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fyi - from Wikipedia -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chagas_disease

In Chagas-endemic areas, the main mode of transmission is through an insect vector called a triatomine bug.[1] A triatomine becomes infected with T. cruzi by feeding on the blood of an infected person or animal.

During the day, triatomines hide in crevices in the walls and roofs. The bugs emerge at night, when the inhabitants are sleeping. Because they tend to feed on people�s faces, triatomine bugs are also known as "kissing bugs".

After they bite and ingest blood, they defecate on the person. Triatomines pass T. cruzi parasites (called trypomastigotes) in feces left near the site of the bite wound.[1]

Scratching the site of the bite causes the trypomastigotes to enter the host through the wound, or through intact mucous membranes, such as the conjunctiva. Once inside the host, the trypomastigotes invade cells, where they differentiate into intracellular amastigotes.

The amastigotes multiply by binary fission and differentiate into trypomastigotes, which are then released into the bloodstream. This cycle is repeated in each newly infected cell.

Replication resumes only when the parasites enter another cell or are ingested by another vector.[1] (See also: Life cycle and transmission of T. cruzi)

Dense vegetation (such as that of tropical rainforests) and urban habitats are not ideal for the establishment of the human transmission cycle. However, in regions where the sylvatic habitat and its fauna are thinned by economic exploitation and human habitation, such as in newly deforested areas, piassava palm culture areas, and some parts of the Amazon region, a human transmission cycle may develop as the insects search for new food sources.[9]

T. cruzi can also be transmitted through blood transfusions. With the exception of blood derivatives (such as fractionated antibodies), all blood components are infective. The parasite remains viable at 4�C for at least 18 days or up to 250 days when kept at room temperature.

It is unclear whether T. cruzi can be transmitted through frozen-thawed blood components.[10]
Other modes of transmission include organ transplantation, through breast milk,[11] and by accidental laboratory exposure.

Chagas disease can also be spread congenitally (from a pregnant woman to her baby) through the placenta, and accounts for approximately 13% of stillborn deaths in parts of Brazil.[12]

Oral transmission is an unusual route of infection, but has been described. In 1991, farm workers in the state of Para�ba, Brazil, were infected by eating contaminated food; transmission has also occurred via contaminated a�a� palm fruit juice and sugar cane juice.[13][14][15]

A 2007 outbreak in 103 Venezuelan school children was attributed to contaminated guava juice.[16]

Chagas disease is a growing problem in Europe, because the majority of cases with chronic infection are asymptomatic and because of migration from Latin America.[6]

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I did a lot of research on this a few years back. There are only a few places that are testing for it. When I called, they said, you had to meet certain criteria to even be tested...like, you had to have lived in an endemic country.

I agree, though. I have seen these bugs while living in the woods of Florida years ago. I suspect I have it.

Funny though, the place I called was in the USA and they were doing research. They told me, "quietly" that they were going to prove Chagas was a much bigger problem in the USA than previously thought. They had higher numbers of positive cases than the CDC or NIH are willing to admit. No big surprise there.

I offered them to test me, based on TBI and living in the woods in Florida, but they would not do it.

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BTW-testing is going on for a new drug. It is an azole drug called posaconazole and at double the normal dose, it is supposed to cure late stage chagas, which really has no good treatment.

I talked my LLMD into giving me a script since it is also a yeast drug and I have resistant yeast issues. I have yet to try it at the high dose for 60 days like it suggests but I have a closet full of it and it is super expensive.

I am currently taking another yeast med, Itraconazole and am responding well to it. Many of my symptoms are heart related, such as could be caused by a late stage chagas infection.

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I have tested.
(Clongen) lab has some pcr assays.
Beleieve they might interact with the strange bug from Arizona ??

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I didn't know clongen tested for this...I may do this.
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It can be spread through food. I'm sure we get alot of food from endemic areas. What kind of strange bug was in Arizona, hansemand?

I have seen this bug in South Carolina for sure. I'm going to read up on this more - later today.

Keep posting about your expeiences with this drug, blinkie.

Here's the map -

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FYI - Stubborn Infection, Spread by Insects, Is Called �The New AIDS of the Americas�

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/29/science/spread-of-chagas-is-called-the-new-aids-of-the-americas.html?_r=1

Rare Infection Threatens To Spread in Blood Supply

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/11/18/science/rare-infection-threatens-to-spread-in-blood-supply.html

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Symptoms
By Mayo Clinic staff

Chagas disease can be acute or chronic. Symptoms range from mild to severe, although many people don't experience symptoms until the chronic stage.

Acute phase
The acute phase of Chagas disease, which lasts for weeks or months, may be symptom-free. When signs and symptoms do occur, they are usually mild and may include:

Swelling at the infection site
Fever
Fatigue
Rash
Body aches
Headache
Loss of appetite
Nausea, diarrhea or vomiting
Swollen glands
Enlargement of your liver or spleen

Signs and symptoms that develop during the acute phase usually go away on their own. However, if untreated, the infection persists and advances to the chronic phase.

Chronic phase
Signs and symptoms of the chronic phase of Chagas disease may occur 10 to 20 years after initial infection, or they may never occur. In severe cases, however, Chagas disease signs and symptoms may include:

Irregular heartbeat
Inflamed, enlarged heart (cardiomyopathy)
Congestive heart failure
Sudden cardiac arrest
Difficulty swallowing due to enlarged esophagus
Abdominal pain or constipation due to enlarged colon

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Of course I dont know if anybody in the US have t. cruzi.Not impossible and the number of intected persons in the US considerable.
However, I believe it is pretty easy to diagnose.
A good smear, the right procedure and a qualified microbiologoist would be able to find (probably?,not sure, the amastigote form) T. cruzi.There are reasonably reliable antibody tests too.
If there is a parasitic infection "in that area" I believe that Leishmania is a likely candidate, or MAYBE one of the not pathogenic Trypanozomas.
However,as long as none of us know about the genetic nature of the much talked ab�ut organism from F-lab in Arizona who knows?

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http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/news/fullstory_126965.html

300,000 People in U.S. Living With Chagas Disease: Report

July 5, 2012

. . . The report was published in the July 6 issue of the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report. . . .

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9660468

Am J Trop Med Hyg. 1998 Jun;58(6):804-6.

Activity of anticancer compounds against Trypanosoma cruzi-infected mice.

Chagas' disease, which is caused by Trypanosoma cruzi, remains essentially incurable. . . .

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That "incurable" part is not intended to discourage as I think they have not tried very many approaches, mostly because it goes unrecognized for long and causes damage before it's identified.

Can you imagine, the average U.S. doctor who hates those who complain about being tired actually entertaining the notion to consider this as a differential diagnosis? I don't see that happening.

The insect has been seen in New Jersey - so it's not just a Central and South American problem. And, many folks do actually travel. So do the bugs - on ships, etc.
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I recently tested for it after discovering the lab I work for runs this test...I had no idea what it was before this...it's like the human heart worm. Don't have it which is good for now.
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The thing that is tricky with this illness is that it's sort of like one of those diseases that people get, that go unnoticed & cause big problems later that seem completely unrelated to a parasite.

It's similar to Lyme or syphilis in that respect. It can also be transmitted through blood, food & congenitally.

It's something to be aware of - like Keebler said - bugs travel & the foods from South America can also be infected - like acai...

I don't know many doctors who would suspect something like this.

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Sicklyme
How did you test?

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My Doc. tested through LabCorp.
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