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mangotangojs
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I was recently at the Vitamin Store stocking up on

the extensive list of brain health supplements I

take for Neuro Lyme. The manager of the store was

assisting me with finding all of them and

mentioned that he is studying to be a naturopath.
Suggested

looking into Maitake mushroom and pulled out a huge

natural medicine book. As we were reading about

this mushroom, it listed that it has been PROVEN

to treat the HIV virus as well as other Chronic

illnesses. At first, I was frustrated that I had

never heard of this mushroom before and the fact

that it is proven to kill the HIV virus and it has

not been made public knowledge! This manager said

that the Lyme sprirochete sounds similar to these

other illnesses that it treats so suggested I look

into it. I was wondering if anyone has heard of

this mushroom and/or tried it? He said it can be

purchased at Kroger in the organic section and

is delicious in spaghetti sauce.

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Indeed, mushrooms are fabulous. Wording and claims can be tricky, however.

I would not be comfortable saying that it is a "fact that it is proven to kill the HIV virus" - it's a bit more complicated.

It can be enormously helpful to treatment, though and, yes, even "proven" to be good treatment.

It works in different ways to support immune function, and some medical mushrooms and certain herbs do have some anti-viral properties their action can't quite be translated to a "cure" but many with HIV who add mushroom therapy do seem to do much better.

MEDICAL MUSHROOMS are WONDERFUL. There's a lot about them you can find through the web.

CULINARY MUSHROOMS can help our health, too, and are delicious sources of great nutrients.

Some mushrooms are both great at medical mushroom treatment (condensed, in capsules or as a tea) and some of those same ones are also great as a food, and delicious.

It's best to incorporate many different kinds in meals and then have a naturopathic guide you with which medical mushrooms might be best for YOUR body, your symptoms.

I found out the hard way that not all are good for my. For instance, one the mushroom, Ganoderma, lowered my blood pressure too much and made me very tired. Although I had studied a bit on my own, it was my ND who corrected me on that.

I LOVE mushrooms, whether as support supplements or food. They are fabulous and I feel so much better with them in my life.

For nerve support: Lion's mane (Hericium erinaceus)

Through Google Scholar and PubMed, search at professional and academic websites:

Medical Mushrooms

Medicinal Mushrooms

then whichever mushroom is of interest - but cross check with their common name and then also with their scientific name for the best sources.
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I thought I had saved a links set but it's nowhere to be found in my notes. I did find this, though:

MUSHROOMS

Paul Stamets, mycologist, spoke at TEDMED in October. Find that direct link.
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There are more than 150,000 species of mushrooms, Stamets says. Still, only 14,000 have been identified, and Stamets and colleagues are still looking.

Eat mushrooms several times a week; eat a variety of mushrooms.

These are not drugs; they are functional foods.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/02/health/tedmed-mushroom-man/index.html?iref=obinsite

A short VIDEO interview with Paul Stamets, mycologist.

THE FORBIDDEN FRUIT OF MEDICINAL MUSHROOMS

By Elizabeth Landau, CNN

Fri February 3, 2012

STORY HIGHLIGHTS

Paul Stamets says he believes people are afraid of mushrooms because they are powerful

George Hudler says he thinks there's a lot of potential for mushrooms' healing properties

- full article at link above.
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Going back to your interest in Maitake, you might enjoy reading this:

http://doctorschar.com/archives/maitake-and-hiv-infection/

Maitake and HIV Infection by Dr. Douglas Schar

Introduction -- Grifola frondosa (Maitake)

Professional level Article

Initial report on HIV clinical Trial

Final report on HIV clinical trial
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Be careful. My sister (cancer patient) took these and needed dialysis. Her doc said it was the mushrooms.

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Catgirl,

I'm so sorry to hear of your sister's reaction. I hope it was temporary and that her kidneys healed. Salvia m. has been a good herb to help with kidney recovery.

http://www.itmonline.org/arts/salviarenal.htm

THE USE OF SALVIA (miltiorrhiza) FOR PATIENTS WITH RENAL FAILURE

by Subhuti Dharmananda, Ph.D.

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http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/3/30956?#000000

SALVIA miltiorrhiza LINKS
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Mango,

The source matters - not all mushrooms are produced or grown in the best circumstances.

Professional guidance matters, too.

As Catgirl rightfully cautions, your body, along with whatever pharmaceuticals you take or illnesses you have, might need a different formulation than someone else -- or a different approach altogether.

Interactions with Rx can occur, too.

When considering herbal / nutritional / adjunct methods:

if at all possible - because each person & each case is different - it's best to consult with an ILADS-educated LL (lyme literate) doctor who has completed four years of post-graduate medical education in the field of herbal and nutritional medicine -

- and someone who is current with ILADS' research & presentations, past and present.

Many LL NDs incorporate antibiotics (depending upon the licensing laws in their state). Some LLMDs and LL NDs have good working relationships.

When possible, it's great to have both a LLMD and LL ND and even better when they have a long-standing professional relationship.

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http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/2/13964

How to find an ILADS-educated LL:

N.D. (Naturopathic Doctor);

L.Ac. (Acupuncturist);

D.Ay. (Doctor of Ayurvedic Medicine);

D.O.M. (Doctor of Oriental Medicine);

Integrative / Holistic M.D., etc. (Be aware that those in this category can have various levels of formal herbal &/or nutritional education, perhaps even just a short course. Do ask first.)

Links to many articles and books by holistic-minded LL doctors of various degrees who all have this basic approach in common:

Understanding of the importance of addressing the infection(s) fully head-on with specific measures from all corners of medicine;

knowing which supplements have direct impact, which are only support and which are both.

You can compare and contrast many approaches.

BASIC HERBAL EDUCATIONAL & SAFETY links,

BODY WORK links with safety tailored to lyme patients,

LOW HEAT INFRARED SAUNA detail,

BIONIC 880 (& PE-1) links, and

RIFE links.

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http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=2;t=013239;p=0

What ILADS is

& WHY you need an ILADS-educated, Lyme Literate Doctor (whether LLMD or LL ND, or both)
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Annxyzz posted a while back that a medical mushroom, Chaga, helped an ill friend feel much better.

Pulling up my post from that:

All the medical mushrooms I've used over the years have always made me feel better, too.

Their strong suit is that they are so very nutritive in nature. I feel better even just when I eat mushrooms with a meal, which I try to do at least 4 times week.

Cordyceps Sinensis and Lion's mane (Hericium erinaceus) are the two medicinal mushrooms that have helped me the most.

Curious about Chaga, it seems primarily geared to cancer support. Here are just a few things from a simple search:

Wiki provides a nice start:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inonotus_obliquus

Inonotus obliquus, commonly known as chaga mushroom . . .

Excerpt:

. . . Further research indicated these polysaccharides have strong anti-inflammatory[10] and immune balancing properties,[11] . . . .

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A chapter from The One Earth Herbal Sourcebook:

http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/important-herbs/chaga-mushroom-inonotus-obliquus.html

Chaga Mushroom


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Inonotus%20obliquus%20Chaga

PubMed Search:

Inonotus obliquus Chaga - 26 abstracts

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Terry Wahls, MD also details the benefit of mushrooms in her recent book

http://www.amazon.com/Minding-Mitochondria-2nd-progressive-wheelchair/dp/0982175086/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1322805441&sr=8-1

Minding My Mitochondria 2nd Edition: How I overcame secondary progressive multiple sclerosis (MS) and got out of my wheelchair

- by Terry L. Wahls, M.D.

[She does not discuss Chaga but has 24 other mushroom references - she also did use antibiotics during her recovery. That detail is not in her book, though.]

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http://www.alohamedicinals.com/cultures.htm?gclid=CLmG7u68z68CFekZQgodLhLsFw

Aloha Mushrooms - their Chaga Gold, left menu
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There's differing opinions about medicinal mushrooms.

FYI - http://ingridnaiman.com/subscription_lists/mold_emails/fungi.html

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It's just another side of the story. The other issue right now is that there is still radiation leaking from Fukishima. Mushrooms really absorb radiation! So, any mushroom product you might buy could potentally be contaminated with radiation.

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I haven't researched this alot - especially about HIV. Retroviruses are very different than Lyme & co-infections. I think if they really did totally cure HIV - there would be more news about it. I'm not saying that are no good - all of these things can have benefit to someone. I just don't think they are a miricle cure.

I took the Stamets combo for a while & I didn't notice much improvement.

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Good point about source, species, reason.

Some mushrooms are grown in carefully monitored environments in the U.S. Oregon has at least one very reputable facility.
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Thanks Keebler. She's better now. :)

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Gundersen: If in Oregon, Wash., Calif. you need to demand officials test how Fukushima fallout has affected rivers and fish Significant radiation hit west coast and settled in on Cascades (VIDEO)

http://tinyurl.com/8bnds8u

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Excellent point sparkle makes.

Even if mushrooms are grown indoors in carefully monitored conditions, their water supply matters, new soil they bring in, etc.

Same with Chlorella and other green foods powders. Reputable sources have considered all this and will share their quality control protocol and assurances.

So much to consider now.
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Yes, it's deep... I love green tea but I have to think about it these days. Paul Stamets actually was cosulting with the gov't (I think it was) about how to remediate radiation... He has a species of mushroom or fungi that eats radiation.

Mushrooms really absorb it - so, you have to be very careful with them these days. I think sunflowers absorb radiation, too - maybe we should avoid sunflower seeds, too?

What a mess.

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http://www.naturalnews.com/021498_reishi_mushrooms.html

Studies show reishi mushrooms benefit people stricken with a variety of ailments . . . .

Excerpts:

. . . Though there are six different types of reishi . . .

. . . Health Benefits: Reishi indeed sounds like a cure-all. An immunostimulant, it is helpful for people with AIDS, leaky gut syndrome, Epstein-Barr, chronic bronchitis, and other infectious viruses.

It is used as an aid to sleep; as a diuretic; as a laxative; and to lower cholesterol. Reishi mushrooms are antioxidants and liver protectants. . . .
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