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gigimac
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I have read some articles that say camel milk is really good for you and is helpful with lyme.

Have any of you tried it or heard good things about it?

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I read that camel's milk has insulin so theoretically a person with diabetes could drink camel milk and not need insulin.

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Some people claim drinking camel's milk cured them of their food allergies...not sure I buy the claim, but never-the-less, some seem to ascribe miraculous things to camel's milk...

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nefferdun
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Where in the world do you buy camel's milk?

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I just ordered some. It was very hard to find and I got it dried which I hope is just as effective as the raw milk. I got enough to make 21 cups and it cost $96.

Here is a study about using it with diabetes.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21629270

It is also supposed to be helpful for autism and to boost the immune system, although I did not see studies pertaining to that.

My son has type one diabetes and is on LDN which seems to have halted the beta cell destruction. He is on a small amount of insulin. The camel's milk might "get him over the hump" so he didn't even need insulin. I expect it will be hard to get him to try it.

So the diabetic cat gets the first taste! He has type 2 diabetes and the vet says sometimes it will reverse itself with proper diet. So far the cat is getting worse, not better, and he is even on more insulin than my son! It would be so much easier to have him lap up a little bit of milk (which he loves) than give him shots twice a day.

Maybe I will give it a try to. I am excited to see if this helps.

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quote:
Originally posted by nefferdun:
Where in the world do you buy camel's milk?

From a camel?
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Ho! Ho! Ho! Michael

Here is a very interesting article.

ttp://camelmilkforhealth.com/admin/uploads/pubs/Camel-milk-autoimmunity.pdf

Llamas are related to Camels. I wonder if their milk has any benefit?

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What about spirochetes in raw milk? Do camels get lyme disease?
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My immune system isn't strong enought to fight off any critters that may be in raw milk.

If you can get Brucella from raw cow's milk, I wonder what diseases can be transmitted via camel's milk?

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I ordered raw camel's milk today. I ordered the dried milk several days ago and then found out it will not work. I got it primarily for my son because it can halt the beta cell destruction in Type One Diabetes, but it is also good for lyme disease.

"An unusual source for antibodybased therapeutics"
Excerpt: "Llamas, camels, and their relatives create extremely small antibodies, which scientists hope can be used to burrow into the crevices of a cancerous tumor or a prearthritic jointplaces that conventional antibodies are too large to enter."

So for lyme disease, their antibodies will penetrate deeper into cells. It is used to treat TB. Read that link I posted for better information.

It is very expensive - $10 a pint. It has just recently been approved for sale in the US. An adult female camel costs $15,000 and can only be bred every other year. They keep the baby on the mother (which is nice) so they only get 2 gallons of milk from each animal. They don't like being milked so keeping them cooperative takes some skill. That is why it is so expensive.

I will report back if this makes any difference. I hope we can tolerate the taste. It is sweeter than cow's milk but saltier. Some people make ice cream out of it but you can't heat it or you will ruin it.

You begin with 2 oz twice a day and work up. One cup has 13 units of insulin. My son is on 10 units of insulin a day. My cat is on 6.

If you just keep looking you will find the answer.

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PS. You can't get disease from camel's milk. Their antibodies are very powerful. Read that link.

A young man dying from a parasitic infection - his story.
http://www.camelmilkforhealth.com/ourStory.php

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This is so interesting. I had know idea camel milk was healing.

A little strange, my son has been asking to try camel milk or llama milk just because he is interested. He even asked if we could buy a camel!

I'm going to read up on the links, thanks.

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I got the dried milk before the raw milk. The dried milk is disgusting. I hope the raw milk does not taste this bad. I am still belching the horrible taste up - so gross. I mixed some in sugar free instant chocolate pudding - still horrible, you can't mask it.

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Ewww, Neff, that sounds disgusting,

There were camels at tonight's Bethlehem exhibit in my town, I thought about milking them!

What if you DON'T have diabetes (or want it) could there be any danger in drinking milk with insulin in it?

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I got the raw milk yesterday and it does not have that taste. It is fine. I was extremely apprehensive but I had some in my oatmeal this morning and it was very good.

You are supposed to drink it on an empty stomach to have the best effect but I was in shell shock from my first experience so maybe next time I will have the nerve to not disguise it.

This is interesting.

TMI Alert: Ive been on it since mid July and after a wk or so started passing worms massively. The only other time i passed worms was when i was on 3 (different) Rx of antiparasitics with Dr Klinghardt in the past. patient A (lyme disease and ME/CFS)

No it won't affect your glucose levels to drink it if you don't have diabetes. Although India has the one of the highest rates of diabetes in the world, there is a tribe in India that drinks it and they have a zero incidence of diabetes.

it is a whole food so you can live on nothing but camel's milk. Some Arab tribes have nothing but camel's milk for months when they are on the desert.

It has "nanobodies" - the antibodies of a camel are 1/10 the size of human antibodies and they pass into the milk. The camel antibodies are good for fighting bacteria that evade abx and our immune system. It also helps to regulate the immune system to stop auto immune attacks.

It is very important to address the underlying reason for disease, whatever it is, because the camel's milk cannot cure you if you don't. You need to chelate heavy metals and clean up the diet - eat organic with no processed refined foods. Many people have a problem with gluten and casein.

I have to share the milk with my son and it is much more important that he gets it than me. i will probably not be getting enough to make a significant difference but if I see a change I will report back.

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Update on the milk. My son would not drink it so I had 25 pints all to myself (and the diabetic cat who loves it). I was worried about the fat in it because it is whole milk, so I ordered a separator, which took weeks to arrive.

It is hard to separate the cream from camel's milk but I think I am getting enough fat out of it. You are supposed to heat the milk to 140 degrees F but I realized that would kill the antibodies so the second time I separated I only heated it to 105, which is a camel's body temperature.

I have only been on the separated milk about a week but I do feel a difference. I sleep better, only waking up once a night instead of 3 times. I have less headaches.

I have been off all drugs for a couple of months. I feel good - no pain except a tingle now and then and those headaches that come and go. My eyes are still infected with something because they are sensitive to light and feel irritated and dry.

Tomorrow the diabetic cat goes in for blood work at the vet's. We'll see if the milk has helped his diabetes. He loves it so much, whenever I get it out he goes nuts begging for it.

http://nourishinghope.com/2011/11/camel-milk-healing-or-hype/

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This is a great update. I have a diabetic cat as well. I would like to see if it will help her, if not me.

How much are you drinking per day Neff, and can you PM me where you bought it?

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I meant to drink a cup a day because it is so expensive but I went through 6.5 pints in a week. I think my husband was putting it on his cereal! I will PM who you can call for the dairy nearest you.

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It didn't help the cat. In fact, the vet needed to raise his insulin 2 units a day so it made him worse.

I mix one cup of it in a blender with two dates and it is so good, it is almost worth the price even if it isn't a magical cure all.

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