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Indica440
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Hey there,

i know two ART practitioners tested me for "core" via muscle testing. i was positive for it all the time. amount was 2 pills.

well than i added the core and i feel so strange on it. started with 1 per day.

day 1 feeling good/not worse. libido got UP
day 2 extremely tired and foggy, needed several naps.
day 3 feeling quite sick. very strange feeling in the mind, i didnt want to talk to anyone. tired. foggy as hell. i felt toxic. antisocial. depressed.

after day2 i added a good amound of microsilicia. same on day3. still feeling very light headed and crappy. i think im detoxing metals and i have kpu.

tonight i felt like i was herxing or something like that. like "sick" with an infection. also started biaxan but i never felt like this before.

how long do you need to treat kpu?
how long before it gets better? and does it get better?

this is all very confusing... but kpu might be a puzzle part in my case

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I treated for a couple years with Depyrrol (it was before Core was available). I first seemed to start detoxing. After a while that stopped and I seemed to retrace viruses.

Then I felt great. It was a big part in my healing.

I don't take it now, but if I'm under stress, I'll take it for a few days. Seems to help with anxiety.

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I am treating with Core. When I first started it was very rough. All symptoms u listed and more. The body starts dumping metals and toxins. Not fun. See if Baking soda baths help alternated with epson salt baths. Take care
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My son was doing very well treating KPU as measured by clouds in his nails. Then he added Welchol and it took away the zinc and the clouds came back. I am now trying to space things better.

Good luck!

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If a person has untreated KPU/HPU could it make them react negatively to anti-anxiety medication?
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http://planetthrive.com/2010/04/hpukpu-protocol-for-lyme-and-autism/

KPU is explained here. If you are detoxing, taking binders is a must to avoid recirculation and reabsorption of the toxins, especially metals.

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GiGi
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Jane2904, considering the substantial amounts of different minerals lacking could have an effect causing other symptoms. Any doctor familiar with KPU should be able to explain this.
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Does any one know of Drs. that treat KPU in Massachusetts?

Thanks for your response GiGi.

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I�m treating KPU right now. I diagnosed myself energetically and started Core i5 months ago.

I was severely depleated- my body was craving for Core. Gradually, I went up to 11 capsules per day.

2 weeks after starting I was on 4 caps - all my existing symptoms got much worse and symptoms that were gone � have returned. But I kind of expected that reaction for Dr. K. warnings, so I just reduced the dose a little bit and waited.

1 month later I�ve experienced a great improvement. I felt 100% almost all of the time. That was huge!!! I also stopped testing for most of other supplements that I was taking at the time.

So I attribute big part of my progress to addressing KPU. I�m still on Core, but my body asks for less and less with time- I�m at 7 caps right now.

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Anuta,

good to read this...i am 4 weeks in on 2 capsules and i feel like death warmed over....i hope i get over the hump soon...

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Excessive intake of some minerals disturbs levels of others and may not be a good thing to do. It took Dr. K. a long time to carefully develop CORE and I do think he would not be in favor of taking extreme amounts.
The body is in a constant balancing act with whatever is available, trading one mineral due to absence of another, which is very evident when we do hair lab tests.
and often the effects are not instantly recognized. The content of zinc in CORE is way above the norm to begin with.

If you do not take enough binders for the toxins resulting from effective treatment whether brought on by sufficient CORE or otherwise, feeling bad is to be expected. Nothing feels worse than toxins on the move that can't find their way out of the body. Taking binders for toxin removal is most important.

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I'm thinking of starting the core as soon as my amalgams are out. My doc is into dmsa, but the core seems to make more sense to me. I energy tested it last night, and my body wants it. I must be low in one or more minerals even though I take some basic minerals daily. I feel much better on zinc, maybe that's one of them.

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KPU/HPU http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/images/stories/powerpoints/hpu%202009.pdf
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thank gigi....doing chlorella twice a day and byron white detox first thing in the morning.

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Of course GIGI, I�m well aware of how zinc depletes copper levels and about how supplementing zinc liberates many 2-valent toxic metals, such as Hg, Cd, Al, Pb and I�ve been monitoring all of this.

I think I�ve read all Dr. presentations and articles on KPU. I also trust and follow my energetic tests. For 2-3 months that�s what my body needed and by adding what was missing , it almost put me in remission.

Needless to say, that addressing KPU, MUST to be accompanied by profound detox procedures: toxins, heavy metals, parasites, infections, viruses � all starts moving. I have that covered too: chlorella, DE, EDTA, colonics, sauna, homeo detox PEKANA and HEEL products.

I assume it would be very difficult to do all this without energetic tests!

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It is impossible to do without a solid dependable energetic testing. That is why I brought the subject up, anuta.

I do not pretend to understand the intricacies of the body to do this on my own. Zinc can carry metals in both directions, depending on the total status. Dr. K. has warmed about supplementing zinc years ago.

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The Core (Biopure) recommended by Dr. K does have a lot of zinc in it along with other good minerals in a great balance. I was always told to make sure I took co-enzymated B6 with zinc and that is also in Core.

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in fact i was retested last night and now i am doubling my core protocal to pills a day.

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So, are people with KPU low in ALL the minerals in the core (or just some of them)? I'm just curious, because my zinc is now at a normal level, so I don't know if I should take it.

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http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/images/stories/powerpoints/hpu%202009.pdf
http://planetthrive.com/2010/04/hpukpu-protocol-for-lyme-and-autism/


Zinc is just one of the factors and blood testing needs to be understood by the interpreter. Minerals and other factors steal from each other, all were considered in the composition of CORE.

The best thing is a reliable ART testing and following that as you move on it is necessary to frequently test in between. I never tested positive for CORE, but as my body composition changed after Lyme was long gone, but EMF and metal situations and other factors in the body changed, I take CORE now, but on and off as I test it myself. It all goes along with treatments. Changes in parasites have an effect.

Would suggest to learn all you can. Manganese is also a factor, along with everything else in CORE, and more.

Sorry I cannot be specific, but that's the way it is with KPU. Hopefully you can learn some energetic testing yourself -- it is a life-saver for me, and once you learn it, you will also probably wonder how you ever did without it before.

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Thank you Gigi. I read all of your links. You have wonderful info (thank you for posting them). :)

Do you have any equipment recommendations? I just got a biotensor, but haven't mastered it yet. I muscle test (sway method) which is super easy for me, but imagine there may be some equipment I'm not familiar with that could be more accurate.

My muscle testing shows I need the core, even though I already ramped up my zinc the past few mos.

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Catgirl, zinc is only a fraction of CORE. and the zinc necessary for KPU is many times the RDA requirements; also the type of zinc is very important. You cannot make up your own CORE - it would cost more than the Biopure CORE. The European CORE never matched the ingredients of CORE and there are a number of reasons due to experience involved in what was and is known about KPU.

If you need CORE, it is a major missing link to getting well.

You need to make certain you understand when testing whether your regulation is blocked or open. If you are blocked, which can happen within a split second of being exposed to a test substance, the body cannot give you the true answer. That is the most important part of basic testing.

You should have a lead vial, a heavy metal complex vial, mercury vial, different parasite vials, fungi vial, and the test slides for bb and coinfections (the latter you should be able to get at klinghardt academy). A resonator block from there is also nice to have and makes testing easier. The vials you can get at Ergopathic Resources or similar.

If you have questions as to how, etc., e-mail me.
Be happy to try answering. If you can get near an ART presentation seminar, there is hardly a better place to learn. If you were to test yourself and parasites show up first thing by using the test vial, you know what your body is up against in priority. If both metals and parasites test, that would also be your signal that all else is on the back burner or not a problem for you.

My dining room table only is empty when company is coming. The rest of the time, it is my testing lab of vials, tensor and anti-meds.

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Thank you Gigi, okay, n-o-w I understand about the minerals and CORE. :)

I did see an ART practitioner a few mos ago (said parasites were my number one issue and also that I was blocked). I didn't really know what blocked meant (guess that is why it took her a while to figure out my issues).

I will get a resonator block and vials, and look for an ART seminar. Things seem to sink in better when I can actually watch something, but if I can't find a seminar close enough, I may be emailing you (thank you for your kind offer).

I can relate with your dining room table (lol)! Mine has books, and lots of supplements and herbs on it.

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