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Ellen101
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My LLNP gave me print outs of gluten free ad candida diets. Between the two there does not seem like there is a lot left to eat.According to my blood work I tested high in candida. Next week I will be having blood tests for food in intolerances.

Can someone recommend some foods that are OK for both candidates and gluten free. I miss bread and hate all the gf breads I have tried. I over cereal and have struggled to find one that is gluten free, tastes good, but does not have au sugar...sweets are being missed as well [Frown] [Frown] [Frown]

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What kinds of sweeteners are okay on the candida diet?

I don't have a problem with candida but use Xylitol and agave for baking. Are they okay for you to use?

I use them with almond flour to make cookies and scones. Are you okay eating almonds?

I would think that proteins and vegetables are okay on the diet. That should give you plenty to eat. Many fruits I am sure are out.

Can you use organic brown rice crispies for cereal?

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Stevia for sweetening ..

Cereal is out if you have candida.

OK foods:

avocados

eggs

meats

vegetables .. esp GREEN

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The best GF bread is by Canyon Bakehouse. Google it.

sorry .. more later

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I'm on a modified version of the candida diet. My doctor said honey and agave are okay, and I think pure maple syrup may be as well (in small amounts though). I'm not doing gluten free (at least not yet), but I thought I was going to die without my sweets. It's been much less painful than I thought. I do believe it's true that the more sugar you eat, the more you crave. When you're not eating any, you don't crave it.
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You can eat all meats and seafood, all non-starchy vegetables (no potatoes, no corn, etc.), seeds, nuts, eggs, and likely cheese.

For cereal, here is a recipe for a quinoa flake porridge. Quinoa is a seed, so it is allowed.

http://bodyecology.com/recipes/porridge.php


Make a double batch and put it in one serving containers. Then, when you want it (as a breafast or a snack), heat in microwave briefly.

You can buy quinoa flakes and whole quinoa in health food stores. Use whole quinoa as a substitute for pasta. Cook 1 part quinoa to 2 parts water on very low heat about 15 minutes. The seeds will burst open into a curl. Throw a chicken bullion cube into the water for some flavor, if desired. This is the starch substitute you are likely looking for with meals.

Serve beef stroganoff over plain quinoa. Serve chicken with quinoa cooked with the bullion cube. Add onions, etc. to the quinoa for a nice side dish.

A nice substitute for bread is Almond Meal Pancakes, made with almonds that have been finely ground into a "flour." Just make the pancakes and let them cool on wax paper. Then, stack in a baggie in the fridge. When you crave bread, eat a pancake. They are delicious. If you want to eat them hot, put cinnamon and butter on top.

Almond Meal Pancakes

1 cup almond flour
2 eggs
1/4 cup water
2 tablespoons oil
1/4 teaspoon salt
1 tablespoon sweetener (stevia, Equal, or whatever you are allowed)

This is the way I ate during my entire lyme treatment. It is a no carb diet. Expect to lose some weight.

You can have breakfast meats with the pancakes or with the porridge to complete your breakfast. This way, you don't have to eat eggs each morning.

Lunch and dinner are easier meals to make and more normal--meat and veggies.

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I enjoy homemade soups with quinoa that I make on the weekends. I sometimes freeze the left over bones from chicken and combine with washed veggie scraps and then throw the whole thing together with some spices to make a nice soup broth base. You can also buy gluten free broths.

Quinoa is a life saver for me. It is great for breakfast. I also throw in some coconut oil and flax seed with a chopped apple and some cloves and cinnamon with stevia. (Hope you can have an apple a day [Frown] )

I have been trying to research oat bran to see if it has gluten. I am afraid it does. But I know that certain oats are gluten free. There are gluten free cereals sold at Whole Foods and Stop and Shop, but many have added sugar. I agree, it is very hard to abide by a candida and gluten free diet.

Trader Joe's has some really good gluten free pasta. I don't know how much pasta you can have with a candida problem. Perhaps in moderation, it is okay. Bulk up on salads and try to enjoy some protein like eggs, meats, fish and nuts.

The good news is you will probably lose weight (if that is something you want to do...) And eventually, you stop craving a lot of the high carb and sugary foods that you used to enjoy.

I need to practice what I preach! [bonk]

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Ellen101
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no apples, oats, pasta....
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Ellen~ I have been investigating food intolerance for myself. Two books that I've found very helpful are: http://www.amazon.com/Dealing-Food-Allergies-Practical-Detecting/dp/092352164X

http://www.amazon.com/Food-Allergies-Intolerance-Identification-Treatment/dp/0892818751/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1354650342&sr=8-1&keywords=food+allergies+and+food+intolerance

I did have a food intolerance test done through Allteress lab (I may have spelled that wrong :-) I'm not sure I agree with all the results. What both authors say, especially the author of the first book is that the only way to know for sure which foods are problematic are to avoid the food and then reintroduce them. They tell you how to go about it.

I went on a few foods elimination diet beginning in December, meaning I only ate about 7 different foods for 3-4 weeks. I am slowly adding foods back in. I can tell you that I *think* I am dealing with food intolerance and it seems to have made a difference in my health. I've also upped my antiviral dose, according to my doctor's orders, and that is playing a role too, I'm sure.

I am avoiding all the major food allergens at this point in time (gluten, soy, dairy, peanut, corn, yeast, sesame, eggs, fish, shellfish). I did try eating tree nuts yesterday (pecans) even though tree nuts are a major food allergen (and intolerance) for some. I just need calories as I've lost 10 pounds and was thin to begin with!!

I do like amaranth grain. I make it for a hot cereal and also just made some GF scones with it yesterday. (I have a cooking/healthy eating blog...and just put up a recipe yesterday for granola bars which can be made GF. They probably wouldn't qualify for candida though due to the dried fruit and honey in them. I need to work on the scone recipe...that would work for what you are needing right now, but the recipe still needs some tweaking. Your health food store would be your best bet to get some food you can eat. If you want to check out my blog, for there will be GF and other allergen free recipes on it, see: http://tinascocina.com/

For recipes and ordering info check out: http://www.bobsredmill.com/ Your local health food store should be a big help to you for products.

Good luck! I do think this is an area worth exploring for everyone (food intolerance) as pathogens and antibiotics can affect the gut lumen leading to problems....

Best, Timaca

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TF's recipe for quinoa flake porridge is really good. I eat it all the time. Filling for sure.

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quote:
Originally posted by Ellen101:
no apples, oats, pasta....

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Green apples are OK .. Granny Smith

also nuts are OK

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quote:
Originally posted by Kat1777:
I'm on a modified version of the candida diet. My doctor said honey and agave are okay, and I think pure maple syrup may be as well (in small amounts though).

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You will end up paying for ingesting any of the above sweeteners.

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Candida Diet and Elimination:
http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/021412.html

Another Candida Diet list:
http://www.thecandidadiet.com/foodstoavoid.htm

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Trusting my doctor on this one ... as I previously stated, I'm on a modified version of the candida diet. My doctor specifically said honey is fine and that he eats it himself (he had Lyme). I'm also allowed all dairy products as well as oats, wheat, etc., just not white pasta or potatoes. So he does NOT have me on the strictest protocol. From my reading, the link you have provided is Phase 1/2 of the candida diet, which only lasts a few weeks. Then other items are re-introduced. This is not where my doctor asked me to begin, although I'm not saying he won't request that at some point.
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Better safe than sorry.

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Kat is not yet on any antibiotics.
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It may help to read the links here about what modern wheat can do to any body.

Re: Food Additives

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=029690;p=0

Excitotoxins; MSG; Aspartame; & "Natural" Flavors;

GMO foods that destroy the GI Tract; Gluten; Dairy.
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Yes, that's correct. I'm not on antibiotics. I've started the diet and probiotics in the anticipation that I will be after my next appointment at the end of the month. We'll see if my doctor changes the diet approach at that time.

He did say that if I'm not feeling better at that appointment, he might try an elimination diet. So I suspect that would involve removing one thing at at time (just dairy or just gluten). But he also stressed that most of his Lyme patients are not gluten intolerant.

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Many LLMDs strongly suggest that those in lyme treatment avoid gluten, though. Antibiotics can mess with the gut so much - and when that happens, certain food molecules can leak through. When gluten does, that's often more trouble.

So, to give the patient every advantage, many LLMDs suggest avoiding gluten.

Also, for anyone not feeling well at all, it's just an added bonus if they avoid a certain food that MIGHT be trouble.

The MILK article from the NYT at that thread above, many readers' comments were stunning in how certain symptoms were relieved when dairy was stopped. Many good surprises.

Or course, not everyone is sensitive to everything but it's worth a try in case there may be some nice surprises.

Lyme can also predispose one to diabetes and obesity. Simple sugars (which include most form of wheat) are just best left alone.

There are so many fabulous, delicious foods to enjoy other than processed wheat.

IF not CELIAC, though, and a wheat is desired, it's best to go for the ancient wheat of FARRO. There is another name for it, too. BLUEBIRD farms in Washington state grows this organically.

http://www.bluebirdgrainfarms.com/

Emmer Farro (may be safe if just gluten sensitive but not for a true genetic celiac)
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Ellen, if you have Candida, you need to know about this:

Lufenuron - a potentially useful treatment to treat candida
http://drmyhill.co.uk/wiki/Lufenuron

Lufenuron: Liver-safe Candida-killer works similar to our immune system
http://www.lufenuroncandidacure.owndoc.com/


The article "Lufenuron Candida treatment" answers your questions about how safe and effective the treatment is and about how to take Lufenuron.
http://lufenuroncandidacure.owndoc.com/lufenuron.pdf


Dr. Sara Myhill in the UK has an excellent website, look around and read some of the articles.

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Thanks everyone for all the great ideas and suugestions!
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Kat... the big thing is to be proactive on the candida issue. I am still paying the price for not being on good probiotics 9 yrs after getting off antibiotic treatment for Lyme.

I am still fighting yeast. I followed a strict diet during treatment but did NOT have high quality probiotics and TONS of it.

I'm here to help others avoid what I am suffering through.

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quote:
Originally posted by Lymetoo:
I'm here to help others avoid what I am suffering through. [/QB]

Totally understood. And since you've mentioned probiotics, I'm wondering if you can recommend a few affordable options. My doctor has me on Nature's Sunshine, but to get up to the maximum dose I'll want to be on if I go on antibiotics, they are going to cost me like $72/month. If I'm going to have to do them long term, I'd like something a bit less pricey.
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