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Dekrator48
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I am interested in trying a magnetic pulser to help with pain, but I keep asking myself why the magnetic field is safe to use if we are trying to avoid EMF's.

Are they totally different things?

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If the pulser is similar to a rife and has specific frequency for specific infections, it can be an effective way to address infection.

But that does not sound like the machine you ask about. Yours sounds like just vibration to help with circulation, etc. That may not be a good thing but explore further to be sure.

Good question about the EMFs, though. I don't have the answer about that but with all the EMFs we get all day long, if something has some benefit to it, I'll go with that -- but ONLY if it directly affects the infection, not just for pain relief if it's going to irritate the spirochetes.

For pain relief, there are other options.

A LIGHT pulser may be good to help with circuation and pain relief as light pulses are not like a deep vibration pulse - Goggle: SOTA LIGHTWORKS. CarolinPA has posted about that here, too, so check the past threads.

Back to your pulser question . . . I'm thinking, though, that some may be constructed to avoid the EMF problem.

In case you are talking about other kinds of pulsation treatment: If you are talking about "electrical stimulation" they may not be safe.

But there is a wide range of tools out there and the defintions can be hard to pin down.

Spirochetes HATE vibration, though, so it's best to avoid vibration as that can make them spew out more toxics from their irritation to the vibration, burrow more deeping - and also go into cyst form trying to find a quieter place, so to speak.
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Page 32. Section: PHYSICAL THERAPY (if needed):

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2. Relieve pain and muscle spasms utilizing multiple modalities as available and as indicated:

massage, heat, ultrasound, and passive and active range of motion.

DO NOT use ice or electrical stim unless specifically ordered by our office. . . .

From:

http://www.ilads.org/lyme_disease/B_guidelines_12_17_08.pdf

Advanced Topics in Lyme Disease (Diagnostic Hints and Treatment Guidelines for Lyme and Other Tick Borne Illnesses

Dr. Burrascano's Treatment Guidelines (2008) - 37 pages

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Some clarification may be found here:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=122717;p=0

Topic: Transcutaneous Electrical Nerve Stimulation (TENS)
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I've wondered that too, and feel like my doc answered it once, but I don't remember.
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Keebler, there is no vibration involved.

Dekrator, EMF's travel through air for long distances.
The SOTA Magnetic Pulser give off a magnetic pulse that extends from the hand paddle, maybe six or ten inches, about every five seconds.

Here is a YouTube video that explains it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doj6qFGqgPQ


Magnetic pulsing adjusts the electrical charges in the cells, and nutrients and minerals like magnesium can pass through the cell membranes.

When the cells get the oxygen and nutrients they need to make energy, they work better and the body feels better.

Magnetic Pulsing
http://altered-states.net/barry/newsletter495/index.htm

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Carol,

Thanks. Good to know: "no vibration involved"

It sounds very different than the Physical Therapy machines, then. Those pulsating little "electrical stimulation" (plunger-shocker things) really clobbered me big time in the past.

Thanks for the links to clear up the distinctions.
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Adding to Carol's links:

http://www.sota.com/lightworks.html

Sota Lightworks


http://www.sota.com/magnetic-pulser.html

Sota Magnetic Pulser
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Nothing that is plugged into electricity is "safe" if you have neurological problems.

That is my experience and what I was taught by Dr. K. years ago. It depends on your tolerance level, metal toxicity, and people that suffered myelin sheeth damage can have a hard time in certain energy fields, no matter which one.

We are energetic beings before biochemistry sets in doing its thing. So you have to be prepared for fallout.

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i wondered it too. and when i am at my worst touching the phone or computer can give me pain. i even worry about heating pads...but i guess they work for some

we're all so different

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Humans probably weren't meant to ever have any form of electricity in or around them on a regular basis. Just because man figured it out, doesn't mean it's good for us. Just look at all the chemicals we are all being exposed to as well (not good, and definitely not mother nature's plan).

This is just my opinion, and similar to what Gigi said above, I just don't think any form of electrical current or radio frequency or microwave is good for any of us. I can barely take the telephone sometimes.

I know that some of these tools help us feel better and even heal faster, I just don't know for sure that they don't cause cancer. I guess weigh it all out (pain level, healing factor, etc).

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Thanks everyone, for all your input and links.

I really appreciate it.

It is the Sota Magnetic Pulser that I am considering.

I think it was Carol in PA who first suggested it to me, and told me that if you order from the manufacturer, it has a 30 day money back guarantee.

I'm still thinking about it. I wish I could find more online reviews of the Sota Magnetic Pulser. I found some on Amazon, but would like to read more about others experience with it.

Is there any reason to think that the Sota Lightworks would be more beneficial than the Magnetic Pulser?

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"For I know the plans I have for you", declares the Lord, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future". -Jeremiah 29:11

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Magnetic fields affect the charge of the cell membrane, which allows membrane channels to open up.
These channels are like the doors and windows of a house.

By opening cell channels, nutrients are better able to enter the cell, and waste is more easily eliminated from the cell.
This helps to rebalance and restore optimum cell function.
If you restore enough cells, they will all work more efficiently.

Cells of the same type come together to make tissues, and those tissues come together to make organs.
So, by restoring or maintaining cellular function, you will, in turn, restore or maintain organ function, allowing the entire body to function better.


Pulsed Electromagnetic Field Therapy for Cancer and Pain
http://drsircus.com/medicine/cancer/pulsed-electromagnetic-field-therapy-cancer-pain

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SOTA Magnetic Pulser
http://www.sota.com/magnetic-pulser.html

SOTA Magnetic Pulser at Amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Sota-Model-MPG5-Magnetic-Pulser/dp/B0027UCPFE/

Discount from Healing Rainbows
http://www.healingrainbows.com/catalog/item/3324230/2864232.htm


See this link for a discounted version:
http://discountzappers.com/MagneticPulser.html

This guy also was selling through Amazon, and I saw some good reviews for his product.
(I don't think he is right now.)


Regarding the guarantee, read all the info at the SOTA site.
You can also google for info about pulsed magnetic therapy, and all the different uses for it.

PEMF Scientific Studies
http://pemfforlife.com/pemf-scientific-studies

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Thanks for all of that, Carol!!

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