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janice victorov
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Hi all.
Llmd has e cleaning up yeast with diflucan. Have a sinus infection which Llmd thinks is yeast hence the diflucan. Anyone else deal with this?

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You may be interested in this site:

www.knowthecause.com

or www.bodyecologydiet.com

No, I don't have this problem but have had sinus pain that I know was fungal.

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Oh yes, maybe you can catch some of my post. The LLMD I was seeing gave me a rx for diflucan plus the candida diet. Maybe it helped some but finally went on an abx . No matter what I try it still comes and goes.

Do you have trouble with your ears (fullness/ ringing) and balance problems?

What has really helped me is a home remedy : 1/2 cup of distilled water (warm) 1/4 teaspoon sea salt and 1/4 teaspoon of proxide I mix mine up and put it in a spray bottle use about 3 times a day. Or you can use the neti pot but the neti pot or the way I use it plugs my eats.

Let me know how you do. Seems no matter what I do mine comes and goes with the darn weird head feelings.

Have been tested for allergies and tried many allergy treatments. Nothing last trying to learn to live with it and oh when I don't have the sinus stuff I feel soooooo much better.

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Consider the Body Ecology Diet.

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All of my sinus issues turned out to be parasites.

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How do you know it was parasites and what worked?
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Because my sinuses started draining right after I took the meds. Each time I tried some of the meds (below), my sinuses improved. Parasite herbs and salt C help, but instant difference for me with the meds.

Biltricide, pyrantel pamoate, ivermectin, alinia. I've done several rounds of these. Albenza too, but I don't think that one hit my sinuses.

I think it was bilt and iver (separately) that did it. Maybe alinia too.

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This is an older thread but I have a wicked sinus infection.

Not sure if it is yeast or bacterial BUT I've tried...

1) Taking a benedryl at night to rule out allergies. (it didn't touch it-not allergies)

2) I don't have the heat on in my room, so it's not dry nasal tissue.

3) I already take zithromax for bart.

4) Cleaned and changed the filters on my air purifiers.

5) Did the Neti pot flush with saline.

6) Diffused eucalyptus and Thieve's oil all last week.

I see my LL today, but I need some suggestions.
Suffering here with this. Green mucus from my nose, liquidy wax from my usual troublesome ear, and now my eye tear duct discharge is greenish also.

I can't breathe through my nose-it's jammed in tight. It's been 4 weeks. Yes, 4 weeks.

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Isn't it cold where you are? Even the dry cold air could cause trouble.

But I would look to a fungal problem first. Either way, you'll need to see your doctor for help.

Maybe Zithromax didn't do the trick.

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4 weeks of Diflucan twice a day cleaned up my 'chronic sinusitis', and an additional 6 weeks completely transformed my sinus issues. I don't have ANY now, other than seasonal allergies that are controlled by Zyrtec. Both and Allergist and ENT were blown away, as it hadn't occurred to them that it could be fungal.

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Yes but how do you get them to prescribe d iflucan when they say there is no such thing as candida or fungal issues??

Ive gone to dozens of doctors and none will prescribe it...including the dang llmd.

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Greta - Afrin and sleeping in a room with a humidifier help my sinuses. (Only supposed to take Afrin for a few days). Also Mucinex to help things drain. Maybe Sudafed depending if you can tolerate it. Take a long hot shower with the doors closed and fan off.

But based on where you are now with this, it sounds like you also may need a stronger abx.

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Greta, it sounds like you have a bad sinus infection. Green phlegm is not good. You may need another antibiotic.

Have you tried Olive Leaf Nasal Spray? It has some good stuff and has helped many.

Another thing that may help is filling a bathroom sink with steaming hot water. Place your face over the sink with a bath towel held over your head to keep the steam there so you can breathe it in. this may open up your sinuses.

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I second Catgirl.

In addition: Mepron with Zithromax, or quinine and clyndi.
Albenza with paragone hit my sinus problems and all of the other meds anti-parasitics.

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ROCHESTER, MINN. -- Mayo Clinic researchers say they have found the cause of most chronic sinus infections --

an immune system response to fungus. They say this discovery opens the door to the first effective treatment for this problem, the most common chronic disease in the United States.
An estimated 37 million people in the United States suffer from chronic sinusitis, an inflammation of the membranes of the nose and sinus cavity. Its incidence has been increasing steadily over the last decade. Common symptoms are runny nose, nasal congestion, loss of smell and headaches.
Frequently the chronic inflammation leads to polyps, small growths in the nasal passages which hinder breathing.
"Up to now, the cause of chronic sinusitis has not been known," say the Mayo researchers: Drs. David Sherris, Eugene Kern and Jens Ponikau , Mayo Clinic ear, nose and throat specialists. Their report appears in the September issue of the journal Mayo Clinic Proceedings.

"Fungus allergy was thought to be involved in less than ten percent of cases," says Dr. Sherris. "Our studies indicate that, in fact, fungus is likely the cause of nearly all of these problems. And it is not an allergic reaction, but an immune reaction."
The researchers studied 210 patients with chronic sinusitis. Using new methods of collecting and testing mucus from the nose, they discovered fungus in 96 percent of the patients' mucus. They identified a total of 40 different kinds of fungi in these patients, with an average of 2.7 kinds per patient.
In a subset of 101 patients who had surgery to remove nasal polyps, the researchers found eosinophils (a type of white blood cell activated by the body's immune system) in the nasal tissue and mucus of 96 percent of the patients.
The results, the researchers say, clearly portray a disease process in which, in sensitive individuals, the body's immune system sends eosinophils to attack fungi and the eosinophils irritate the membranes in the nose. As long as fungi remain, so will the irritation.
"This a potential breakthrough that offers great hope for the millions of people who suffer from this problem," says Dr. Kern. "We can now begin to treat the cause of the problem instead of the symptoms."

More research is underway at Mayo Clinic to confirm that the immune response to the fungus is the cause of the sinus inflammation. The researchers are also working with pharmaceutical companies to set up trials to test medications to control the fungus. They estimate that it will be at least two years before a treatment will be widely available.

The researchers distinguish chronic sinusitis -- sinusitis that lasts three months or longer -- from acute sinusitis, which lasts a month or less. They say that the cause of the acute condition is usually a bacterial infection.
Antibiotics and over-the-counter decongestants are widely used to treat chronic sinusitis. In most cases, antibiotics are not effective for chronic sinusitis because they target bacteria, not fungi. The over-the-counter drugs may offer some relief of symptoms, but they have no effect on the inflammation.

"Medications haven't worked for chronic sinusitis because we didn't know what the cause of the problem was," says Dr. Ponikau. "Finally we are on the trail of a treatment that may actually work."
Thousands of kinds of single-cell fungi (molds and yeasts) are found everywhere in the world. Fungal spores (the reproductive part of the organism) become airborne like pollen. Some people develop allergies to fungi. The new evidence from the Mayo study suggests that many people also develop a different kind of immune system response.

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Hi all,

Thanks for the suggestions. I have been taking advil sinus during the day. (I hate pseudoephedrine or whatever the decongestant in the pill is. Makes me feel like I've had too much coffee).

My LL has me on an anti-fungal, anti-biofilm nasal rinse regimen, every 3 hours, and silver nasal spray.

When I saw the pharmacist, he said that all the antibiotics I have been on, especially IV rocephin should have cleared up my sinuses if it was bacteria, so he also thought it was fungal.

That diflucan sounds great! I wish I had some! I fear my experience getting some may be like randibears.

Where does one get olive leaf nasal spray? Sounds like a good thing to have on hand.

What is the Afrin mentioned?

Is Albenza prescription?

Al, thanks for posting that article on fungal allergies. Interesting.

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You can get Seagate Olive Leaf Nasal Spray at Iherb.com or Amazon. I learned about it from reading some threads on lymenet. I hope you get some relief, Greta.
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This is very interesting.

I developed food allergies from Lyme (milk, wheat, eggs, nuts, and peanuts), I avoid these foods 100% at home.

But going out to eat or to a wedding....it can be tough to garantee I'm avoiding it all.

I can tell when I eat the wrong thing very quickly though, because my sinuses start to feel super full (more so then they regularly are).


I have had ear problems for over 15 years, constant fullness (started at the same time or maybe a year after my knee swelled up for no identifiable reason when I was 15.

I can press on my cheeks and hear and feel fluid squishing around.

I always thought it was interesting that my allergic responses where predominantly in my sinuses.

But perhaps the fungi (or parasites) are why.

I took yeast killing meds (I forget which one, but it wasnt diflucan), about 2 years ago.

I remember the first week I was on it, I looked like death, and my brain fog and headaches were out of control.

My digestive system is functioning much better so I thought my fungus issues were sort of controlled. (Also take strong probiotics)

But this head thing is still, definitely not right.

Now I'm wondering if I should be begging my LLMD to put me on meds to kill fungi again.

I do take grapefruit seed extract.

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Everyone with fungal issues needs to stop eating carbs. Fungi will never go away if you're eating carbs.
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I used GSE Grapeseed extract maximum concentrate 1 oz. for about a year and it cleared all my sinus problems up.

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