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Shiela
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I've had abdominal pain for 4 years now and am on a high dose of gabapentin to control the pain. I believe this is from nerve root inflammation from Lyme. Other reasons for my thoracic pain have been ruled out.

Has anyone had any success with physical therapy for this?

I am wondering if treating the Lyme will make it just go away without any other therapy.

My PCP talked about doing a nerve block and I've read that Ceftrixone will treat this also.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiculopathy

Radiculopathy refers to a set of conditions in which one or more nerves is affected and does not work properly (a neuropathy). The emphasis is on the nerve root (radix = "root"). This can result in pain (radicular pain), weakness, numbness, or difficulty controlling specific muscles.[1]

In a radiculopathy, the problem occurs at or near the root of the nerve, along the spine. However, the pain or other symptoms often radiate to the part of the body served by that nerve. . . .

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Google UPLEDGER INSTITUTE and find someone in your area trained in their VISCERIAL MANIPULATION for your gut -- and for their style of CRANIAL-SACRAL to get to the root of the nerve issue.

This could be covered by insurance.

that is safe for those with lyme. It is gentle and never suddenly twists the neck or spine as some others do

(NEVER do that with lyme, ever. Be sure to tell them that, just for the record and avoid those who do those harsher styles).

Please do not do a nerve block. There are so many other safer things to first consider. So many.

Vital for nerve calming:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=123746;p=0

Topic: MAGNESIUM LINKS sets
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Are you gluten-free? Dairy-free? Also going GMO free could help a great deal. See "GMO Roulette" film, in this set:

Re: Food Additives

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=029690;p=0

Excitotoxins; MSG; Aspartame; & "Natural" Flavors (that are not likely natural at all);

GMO foods that destroy the GI Tract; Gluten; Dairy.
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Q: "
I am wondering if treating the Lyme will make it just go away without any other therapy." (end quote)


Treating lyme & co. could resolve the issue but that will take a while. Get therapy to help you now. Addressing all factors would be the best ticket combination.

A LL ND (naturopathic doctor) who is also an acupuncturist could also be of great help (with acupuncture and also with very specific nutrients &/or herbal formulas).

Corydalis might be very helpful to calm the pain in addition to magnesium.
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Various kinds of antioxidants also serve to lessen inflammation. Corydalis also works to calm pain in other ways but do include good anti-inflammatories in your plan. Best guided by a LL ND.

Some points below may have been stated above but I'm out of steam and can't go through to edit this. Wanted to be sure you got the detail with no delay.

From my file notes on this topic:


Since many prescriptions and over the counter products for pain can be very hard on the liver, kidneys or GI lining . . . I focus mostly on other things

First, liver support has to be number one to help reduce all kinds of pain. Be sure your liver support supplements are top-notch. Other things to consider:

* Corydalis (I'd try this before trying marijuana as it has less side-effects). I'll post some research. Sort though what calls to you. I'll leave in the notes regarding kindling and seizures as that same sort of kindling also can send the pain to the moon. Reducing kindling helps to reduce pain.

* MAGNESIUM 1,000 to 2,000 mg/day (to bowel tolerance). Glycinate is a good type but you'll have to read up on your choices. See Burranscano's recommendation, too.

* CALCIUM, and other minerals and electrolytes in balance.

* Fish Oil

* Curcumin

* Gluten-Free Diet

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CORYDALIS
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http://www.itmonline.org/arts/pain.htm

SIMPLE TRADITIONAL FORMULAS FOR PAIN

Shixiao San, Jin Lingzi San, Liang Fu Wan, and Baishao Gancao Tang

by Subhuti Dharmananda, Ph.D., Director, Institute for Traditional Medicine, Portland, Oregon

excerpt:

. . . Corydalis is added "to increase the pain-relieving effects of this prescription."

To compare Shixiao San and Jin Lingzi San, it is helpful to examine two of the main ingredients. Yang Yifan (9) compares corydalis to trogopterus (wulingzhi):

Corydalis and trogopterus enter the liver and spleen meridians. Both are able to promote blood circulation and remove congealed blood. They are very effective for relieving pain.

- Full article at link above.

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http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/diseases/the-nervous-systembrain-nerves-and-mind.html

excerpt:

* Herbs such as opium poppy and corydalis rhizome (Corydalis yanhusuo) reduce pain by binding to opiate receptors (Stansbury, 1999).

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

PubMed Search:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

PubMed Search:

Corydalis - 285 abstracts

Corydalis, pain - 8 abstracts

Corydalis, liver - 4 abstracts

Corydalis, inflammation - 3 abstracts (one lead to Curcumin)

Hypomagnesemia, pain - 32 abstracts


Links to mentions of it in seven different chapters of The One Earth Herbal Sourcebook:

http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/display/Search?searchQuery=Corydalis&moduleId=1405778


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This is an excellent formula, intended for use before going to bed (follow instructions and caution with driving until you get used to it. Do not mix with sedative or alcohol).

This is also part of a lyme protocol.


http://www.hepapro.com/hepapro_product.htm

See #28 - HerbSom

Ingredients; Corydalis root, jujube seeds and Schisandra fruit.

Jujube is also called zizyphus. Schisandra is also spelled schizandra. Both can be searched at PubMed and at The One Earth Herbal Sourcebook ( http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com )

All good to help relieve pain & spasms or tightness that comes with irritated nerves.

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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

PubMed Search:

Curcumin, Kindling - one abstract:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19567167

Curcumin inhibits amygdaloid kindled seizures in rats. -- So, that also means it can help with other kinds of nerve spasms that cause pain.

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Detailed thread:

http://tinyurl.com/y8bd9k2

Topic: CURCUMIN Prevents Some Stress-Related Changes (Endocrine & Neuro) - pain also discussed

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In my experience, Corydalis makes me sleepy. Curcumin does not.
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Backing up, you say that your PCP wants to do a nerve block but you don't say what your LLMD says.

A major rule about "anything else" for someone with lyme, always FIRST talk to LLMD about any other treatments to be considered, be they pills or procedures.

A LL ND is also an excellent help if you have such an option. I know there is a good one in your state. And a good LL chiropractor, too.
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My LLND suggested Curcumin for it, which I have been taking. He also suggested a gluten-free diet, which I have been doing for a few months now. I also stay away from processed foods and try my best to avoid GMOs.

My neuro addressed it before I was diagnosed with Lyme. He gave me gabapentin for it thinking it was the MS Hug. I have not stopped taking it because when I try, I get pins and needles in my legs and feet and the pain in my abdomen becomes quite severe.

I've been trying to get answers as to what was causing this for so long and finally ready about Lyme nerve root inflammation and it seems to fit spot on. For now the neuro has backed off the MS diagnosis.

I rejected the nerve block but it's been four years--every day--and I am wearing down.

Steroids are supposed to help radiculopathy but of course they are bad for Lyme so I don't want to go that route either.

That's why I was wondering about physical therapy. I don't want to do anything drastic if I don't have to.

I will do research on the herbs you suggested. Thank you Keebler!

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UPLEDGER can work wonders, along the way, too.

Also Google: SOTA LIGHTWORKS
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