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luvema
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My doctor wants me to start taking colloidal silver along with doxy. I googled it up and got terrified! It can turn your skin blue and have major side effects.

My body is way too sensetive that I tend to get most of side effects of things.

My doc told me that she got a research paper on colloidal silver and how it makes antibiotics work so much better.

I am just too afraid of its side effects

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MichaelTampa
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I wonder if you read of these dangers from any reputable sources, or if this was perhaps scare tactics from idiots, or perhaps one-off experiences from people who did things carelessly.
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Keebler
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Your LLMD is correct, it could be an excellent tool.

Danger? Not at all, IF a good, reputable source with the right kind of water, production. It saved my life and kept me out of a wheelchair when that was the only choice ahead of me at that time.

I cannot stress enough: it saved my life. I had no side effects. It was an excellent tool at that time.


Danger? Yes, if NOT a good source. Resulting in argyria, a permanent blue / gray skin if the water source used is not correct & especially if a person goes bonkers with the dose.

But that is not really a danger of colloidal silver, itself - but a danger of not doing one's homework and being uncertain of the quality. And, often, those who make this mistake also abuse the dose and go beyond overboard with a bad product to begin with.

And they make the news. Their stupidity is not determined to the be issue, though. The bad batch is never explained. The benefits of this excellent tool are never explored in perspective.

Same with some of the less-than-best web sites.

Find the best sites, the best doctors, from which to learn.

It's that simple. The source matters. Huge difference, as with all things: quality of ingredients, manner handled, manner used - and guidance from someone well educated about this.

Still, it is not the end-all, be-all and its use requires consideration. Not having to too much accumulate & circulating it back out of the body is still something to consider since it's not that easy. At suggested doses, this can be just fine for certain periods of time. Best with a LL ND to guide.

So, even the naturopathic doctors who know of its benefits and how to locate the most reliable sources use this sparingly, along with other options.

Comes down to education, time, place and knowing when to use what.
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You are very fortunate to have an integrative LLMD who knows about this and can guide you. If you have concerns, of course, do talk with her about this but don't settle for scare tactics of some bad web sites to keep you from something that could be a remarkable helper. Ask your LLMD &/or a LL ND.


For other who have questions: when considering herbal / nutritional / adjunct methods:

if at all possible - because each person & each case is different - it's best to consult with an ILADS-educated LL ND (lyme literate naturopathic doctor) (or similar) who has completed four years of post-graduate medical education in the field of herbal and nutritional medicine -

- and someone who is current with ILADS' research & presentations, past and present, and has completed the ILADS Physician Training Program (see: www.ilads.org )

Many LL NDs incorporate antibiotics (depending upon the licensing laws in their state). Some LLMDs and LL NDs have good working relationships.

When possible, it's great to have both a LLMD and LL ND and even better when they have a long-standing professional relationship.


http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/2/13964

How to find an ILADS-educated LL:

N.D. (Naturopathic Doctor);

L.Ac. (Acupuncturist);

D.Ay. (Doctor of Ayurvedic Medicine);

D.O.M. (Doctor of Oriental Medicine);

Integrative / Holistic M.D., etc.

Be aware that integrative doctors can have various levels of formal herbal &/or nutritional education, perhaps even just a short course. Do ask first. You want someone with a deep knowledge.

HERBAL EDUCATION & SAFETY LINKS, etc.
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Yep, a good source is no cause for concern. Like most alternative treatments it gets a bad rap because it actually works (good source of course) and that is a threat to big pharma.

I use the gel and liquid and it's a great thing multi-purpose supplement to have around the house for many reasons.

I use American Biotech Labs which can be found on iHerb.

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I would trust your Doctor. A friend of mine is in remission from IV antibiotics and IV silver. It worked amazing for her.

Best wishes

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There was one guy a few years ago that turned his face blue, but he was making his own silver (large particles), and the idiot was splashing it on his face to boot.

This caused a build up of silver in his skin rather quickly.

So if you don't do what he did, I'm sure that you will never ever have blue skin from silver solutions that you can buy OTC.

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I'm horribly allergic to silver and other metals (confirmed through patch testing from my dermatologist).

If you have problems wearing metal jewelry, I'd proceed with caution, perhaps get a patch test to make sure your body is okay with it.

Any good allergist or dermatologist can order the test from Allergeaze or Dormer for you to try.

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I think if there is ANY med or supplement, that for some reason makes you feel very uncomfortable to start

(example: Levaquin. Some people say to their Dr.
I just don't feel comfortable doing this one.)

Then that should be okay, you can communicate to your Dr.

Another example: I was on cholystramine for mold protocol for a couple months. My LLMD at the time really, really believed in it

and wanted me to stay on it. I am very thin, at the time not exercising, and the thought of pulling cholesterol from my body for over 2 months plus,

just didn't sit well with me. So I said no more. I got a push back, but said no.

It's okay to say no. Sometimes it's our intuition. Perhaps there is a substitute you would feel better about---

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luvema
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Thanks everyone.

I guess I Was just really afraid from what I saw on youtube about it, and how there is a possibility of it turning the skin blue.

I will talk more about it with my doctor.

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the way i react negatively to everything i'd have to give it a ton of thought and then i'd be scared to death.

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From what I read, pure silver ion or the pure colloidal form has not been documented to turn skin blue. You also need relatively large amounts to get to the point of turning your skin blue of salt forms of silver, such as AgCl. Most lyme protocols I've seen are well below these limits and use the pure form. I have read the paper your dr is referring to. It is extremely well done and documents how silver works in several synergistic ways with antibiotics to make them much more effective. Their is a long history of use by silver by humans for anti-infective effects. We have started using silver and are very pleased with results to date. You can order some inexpensive books on Amazon.com to educate yourself. SOme have too much hyperbole but most contain good information. I would not hesitate to use silver, especially under the care of a physician. If you want to explore it on your own, I recommend SilverLungs. I was very impressed with their equipment and documentation. It worked exactly as they said it would. They are very knowledgeable.
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