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2roads
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Keebler,

I've looked over some past threads regarding your knowledge of sleep, but none of them were for kids.

My son only goes through three sleep cycles, not four to five a night. Not sure even how his rem is.

He wakes up early, usually by 7. It's as if his mind can't get into deep sleep again.

I beleive this was from something I gave him almost two years ago. So, this is residual side effects.

I was going to enroll him in a muscle relaxing/deep breathing class if I can find it.

Do u have any other safe suggestions for us?

Thanks,

2roads

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Up.....

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How many hours is he able to sleep?

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Hi, 2roads. I just saw this tonight. Sorry, I'm not any kind of expert in anything, especially children & sleep.

I will say that I am certain this is NOT your fault. I recall - often - you have referred to an essential oil you gave him ONCE two years ago and thought that he had long term issues after that. I KNOW that is not the case.

All kinds of sleep issues just go with lyme & co. The excitatory stuff is huge with lyme.

I wish I could advise you but only say that his doctors should be the best ones to assess all that he takes to be sure something is not too excitatory in Rx, supplement or diet.

I do know that lights can make all the difference, though, especially fluorescent lights (any time of the day, they can cause the brain to be overly excited even at night time).

"Sleep hygiene for children" can be Googled and I'm sure you will find many excellent articles.

If at all possible, a LL ND (naturopathic doctor), an acupuncturist, a massage therapist, etc. may be best to consult for full range of options.

Best of luck.
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Excitatory stuff slipping through?

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=029690;p=0

Excitotoxins; MSG; Aspartame; & "Natural" Flavors (that are not likely natural at all);


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/113775?#000000

Topic: Amino Acid Information Link

See post: Caution: Aspartate; Glutamine; Phenylalanine; & Seaweed

- all too excitatory when ADDED in supplements (and sometimes when we eat certain foods with high amounts)
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muscle relaxing/deep breathing class?

I suggest something FUN and not telling him this is about sleep as he can get "performance anxiety" if everything he does is supposed to show results during a time when he should be drifting off.

Biofeedback, Yoga or other activities that might help him tense and release muscles in safe & fun ways. There are yoga classes for kids.

If he's well enough to dance (not aerobically, though as that can be too hard on adrenal function), he might enjoy some kind of dancing in the afternoon. This can help sleep hours later.

Singing or music lessons can also help in various ways.

Art is not a breathing and muscle exercise but it could be a hobby that will help his brain focus during the day and then dream better at night.

What kinds of activities would he ENJOY?

If he awakens at 7 am, that's not really so bad if he gets to bed by 9 or 10 pm. As I recall, he's in grade school or grade school age?

If he has times during the night when he's awake, specific kinds of music on a CD for him to turn on might be good. Some "sleep" CDs are good, too. Visualization and such. He can use that time for day dreaming of all kinds.

ONLY RED LIGHTS for night lights or clocks, CD panels.
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Thanks fpr the replies everyone.

I just logged in after being gone awhile.

He sleeps about 9 hours, but it's interupted. He only has three sleep cycles, not 4or5.

He take karate year round. Soccer in the fall, basketball in the winter.

I am trying to get him a personal trainer for meditation once a week Keebler. I thought that would be a good idea too.

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Might it be normal to have some interruptions? Or at least typical of child with whatever all is going on in his body? As long as he gets right back to sleep, that would be the most important part.

Or, if it takes a little while to get back to sleep avoids light and can "self soothe" be that visualizing enjoyable colorful places to be in his mind, hum or sing to himself, etc.


http://www.google.com/advanced_search

you will find some excellent links from a Google Advanced Search of:

"sleep hygiene for children"
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Sounds like he is doing great! Rest easy, Mom.

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Thanks Keebler and Tutu.

The 24 hour eeg said he had normal sleep patters, I'm assuming to include arrousals (but it sure seemed a lot more when I was watching) It did say only 3 sleep cycles.

I guess a few arrousals are normal.

He can get himself back to sleep, that's a blessing.

I am okay with 9 hours, but sometimes it's less and obviously interupted by multiple awakenings.

I wish I could believe he was doing well Tutu. Thanks for the vote of confidence though.

Thanks Keebler

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