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CD57
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My insurance covers most of my Enhansa, so I will use that. In some studies they were using 8 grams per day -- possibly for cancer? can't recall. But 2.5 grams is not so much when you consider that.

Fadingout, what is an appetite response? It would seem to be that this means you crave more of it?

Also, were you taking your 2.5 grams in little doses throughout the day, or just dividing it into 2, so BID?

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I don't see why ppl are having problems with fadingout. He has found something that is working for him, and he wants to share it. If his style is abrasive move on, no one is forcing you to read it. I came here years ago to find answers and I found them. Would it do any good to say you can do laser, rife and herbals. What works for me doesn't always work for someone else. And WHO in their right mind would start a protocol without researching the pros and cons? Just because someone posts a drug and given amounts doesn't mean you have to do it, exercise your free will....
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>My insurance covers most of my Enhansa, so I will use that. In some studies they were using 8 grams per day -- possibly for cancer? can't recall. But 2.5 grams is not so much when you consider that.

As long as you get an appetite response it may work. With me I used the long vida powder with set doses and after about two weeks I developed an appetite for it. Same for the green tea extract. It doesn't start right away.

Maybe you can get the company to give you absorption information and try to set an equivalent starting dose.

>Fadingout, what is an appetite response? It would seem to be that this means you crave more of it?

It's a specific physical craving for something (chocolate, tobacco, whatever) that gets sated when you eat it.

>Also, were you taking your 2.5 grams in little doses throughout the day, or just dividing it into 2, so BID?

Little doses. I think this allows the enzymes to progressively dissolve the fibrosis.

[ 10-08-2013, 04:16 PM: Message edited by: fadingout ]

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Fading out, the fact that you are associated with Quackwatch is proof positive that you are here for one purpose only - to do HARM.

No genuine person trying to help the Lyme community would promote Quackwatch, which is a medical "Liars-for-Hire" service mainly funded by Big Pharma, but also used by the likes of McSweegan (who wrote its Lyme disinformation section).


You distorted everything I wrote and insulted longtime members here. You are here as part of an attempt to hurt one of our good doctors.
elena

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That makes no sense. Quackwatch doesn't believe in BLO. They would just say this is quackery because it's unproven. I've discussed this with them and we disagree on the issue. I found their position unfounded. Moreover, I'm a patient with BLO.

Which MD are you claiming I'm attacking? I already shared my personal MD in messaging.

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You may or may not have BLO but you are at the top of the QuackWatch crew, founder & their ChiroBase twin.

You posted your name in past post here, asking for personal email from LymeNet posters. That name led to some interesting links from
Google.

Just one one those:

http://chirotalk.proboards.com/thread/5664

[your name]- Founder of Chirotalk: The Skeptical Chiropractic Discussion Forum


This site is "twin" and part of the operation of QuackWatch, having been linked as one with legal action against the entity for defamation of others' characters (as explained by comments from readers further down in link above). Legal action is easily found by Google with a cross search.
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I tell you what. This whole Lyme disease cover up and evil that runs through between deniers,

allowing human beings and CHILDREN to suffer,
it's too much for me.

fadingout, I hope for the sake of humanity and anything that's decent in the world you are not lying.

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positive Bartonella henselae Igenex, 2011.
low positive Fry biofilm test, 2012.
Update 7/16- After extensive treatments,
doing okay!

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Irrelevant. If anyone (except trolls) wants to discuss treating BLO I'm all ears.

I'm ignoring you Keebler. You're paranoid.

Quackwatch already did an article stating that lyme is a fake disease. They're not trying to hunt MDs down by trolling forums. They would just pose as patients and call offices.

However there are too many MDs to do that so it isn't going to happen unless someone does something outrageously stupid like commit insurance fraud or hurts a patient. Then they would be made an example of.

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But this is at least the third site where you ask for posters' email addresses, directly.

I was not intending to post detail below (figuring a search of your posting history here at LN, and the Google cross search function would bring that to light for those interested) -- but since you asked which doctor you attacked, here is just a sampling, along with your colleagues:

[Same address for both ChiroBase and QuackWatch. One and the same entity.]

http://www.humanticsfoundation.com/harrison-vs-quackwatch-complaint.pdf

Defamation lawsuit

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http://chirotalk.proboards.com/thread/5664#ixzz2hL2GYPQZ

dcphd writes: "You outright harass and ridicule chiropractic leaders, chiropractors, the profession etc. ones who passed away, also make posts in which family has encouraged you to remove... yet you now you want sympathy and donations? I don't get it. . . .I am sorry to say." (end excerpt)


So, since you asked which doctor "are you claiming I'm attacking? " (end quote)

apparently, it's a pattern. And the poster here wonders how a person such as that can be trusted. It's a good question.

That you are asking for posters (in above thread) there to be generous with their personal contributions to you does make one wonder, too, why you have frequently asked posters here at LN, and at MDJunction, to send you their personal email addresses.

But the QuackWatch connection (and their/your anti tick-borne infection stance) makes those requests even more curious.

What really caught my attention, though, [aside from the abusive comments you posted about some folks here - several caustic remarks that moderators deleted]

are suggestions you make for folks here to take what many consider to be potentially dangerous levels of acetaminophen, suggesting it's nearly required and there is no other way.

Although you are from QuackWatch, you may (or may not?) have BLO.

What makes me wonder is that, considering your "former career" in the health field & all the information now available about the risks of acetaminophen (at the doses you say are necessary), it's a dangerous suggestion that can cause permanent damage and it puts people in harm's way. Why would someone do that? (is the rhetorical question).
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Keebler you don't even have BLO. Why are you talking? Leave.
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I don't know how you come to that misconception.

I never wrote that I do (or don't) have BLO. Whether I do (or don't) is not the issue.
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Yes it is. You're obviously offended that I called you out for being an alarmist and giving bad drug advice when you are unqualified to do so. Now you are making the false accusation that I'm not being honest about this BLO treatment and you are engaging in irrelevant personal attacks to try to distract. This thread is about BLO treatment. You have nothing to contribute so find some other place to be.
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"This thread is about BLO treatment."

No it sure doesn't look that way. Fadingout, everyone here has good reason to be suspicious of you and your associations. Plus, you're being quite rude.

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Problem solved.

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