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cleo
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Have a couple of sons that are sick (one in treatment). Now the other one is having signs of alopecia areota. The first son just has overall thinning. No history of it in either family sides.

Just wondering what abx has halted and reversed yours. Maybe to give us a direction.

thanks

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Not sure which bug it could be, but supplementing with biotin might help.

Also, I used Nioxin shampoo when dealing with hair loss and it helped a lot. Kind of expensive, but worth it. You have to use it for a while to see results.

The salon in the Super Walmart here had it the cheapest.

Lyme can affect the thyroid, so maybe that has something to do with it?

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I agree it could be thyroid related. Have testing done that includes the Free T3, Free T4 (besides the T3 and T4), and thyroid antibodies in addition to the normal panel. Ask that these tests be included. They provide a better overview of thyroid function.
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Nancy L
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I read that low thyroid can cause hair loss, and a lot of lyme patients have low thyroid and auto-immune markers in their hormone testing.

Think you add TSH testing. If TSH is high but free T(4 or 3, can't remember)is low, then you are hypothyroid or borderline hypothyroid.

Personally, I found that an over-the-counter medicated shampoo in 1%solution called Nizoral, works to clear my scalp of something like the fungus-related cradle cap babies can get. It worked for me within a few weeks.

With me, this crusty build-up may just be an old age symptom, but a healthy scalp might help your sons condition some. I shampoo 2 to 3 times a week and have no build-up now.

Doesn't lyme encourage fungus and yeast infections?

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When I had hair loss -- and it was BAD for 6 months-- I think it was actually in response to an abx. Either tindmax or zith.
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check out the symptom list at Humaworm for parasites. Hair loss is listed.

Gael

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I also think the abx. My hair was thinner, and my curly hair became straight while treating for 18 months. I have been basically off abx for a year ( just did 5 weeks) and my hair is thick and curly again.
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He has had all the thyroid stuff done and all normal. He is not on abx.

I am going to look at zinc issues to see if thats it.

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Did he have thyroid antibody tests done also? If positive it indicates Hashimoto's Thyroiditis.

Some people with Hashimoto's, including me, have results in the normal range. If Hashimoto's is present, treatment is warranted even if results are in the normal range. Also, there is a lot of room to work within the normal range.

I think Lyme can cause hair loss in some people.

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bartonella can cause hair loss. that is my son's main problem and is much, much better now. but i'm not totally sure which abx and/or herbal/homeopathy did it. maybe the combination. he did not test low for thyroid.
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For me, Lyme.
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Thyroid for me. Lyme did this to thyroid though.

There is also something about reverse T3 that you don't want to have. T4 converting to the wrong kind of T3 which is the inactive form.

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Google: biotin hair loss

(severe loss of biotin)

Look for "legit" links.

It is also called vitamin H / B7 / coenzyme R

Under the "Chinese Herb" link on lymenet, I talk about it.

For starters:

http://www.biotin.com/general-overview

http://tinyurl.com/mwub3sc


Notice, if you will, where it is STORED!!!

"Four of the 5 biotin-dependent carboxylases (BDC) are in the mitochondria."

It takes P5P (B6)dependent enzymes to MAKE biotin.

Bb effects a LOT (!) of nutrients.

http://planetthrive.com/2010/04/hpukpu-protocol-for-lyme-and-autism/

Mitochondrial dysfunction...not working properly, autophagy kicking in, so...

inhibit complex III which will trigger cell death (infected cells).

Three ways to do that: Berberine,

hypericin (complex III substrate) and then hit the cells with a yellow laser

or an antibiotic called antimycin A.

While the 1st works, the second works much faster and the third...safe? Is it strictly targeted to the infected cells?

Re: thyroid-biotin connections:

Clinical evaluation of ***biotin-binding immunoglobulin*** in patients with Graves' disease.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7915219

Graves disease = HYPER thryroid = raised metabolism = weight LOSS.

Graves' disease is associated with genetic susceptibility including CD40, CTLA-4, thyroglobulin, TSH receptor and PTPN22).

There is a link with a specific HLA haplotype (HLA-B8).

Other possible triggers include smoking, stress, pollutants, allergy, iatrogenic causes (percutaneous injection of ethanol, interferon therapy such as interferon beta-1b

or ***interleukin-4 therapy)***

and selenium intake.

http://www.patient.co.uk/doctor/hyperthyroidism

IL-4 and lyme:

Up-regulation of Borrelia-specific IL-4- and IFN-γ-secreting cells in cerebrospinal fluid from children with Lyme neuroborreliosis

http://intimm.oxfordjournals.org/content/17/10/1283.long


IL-4 here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interleukin_4

Esp. focus on this:

"Inflammation and wound repair" function.

Weight loss...via speeding up metabolism (hyperthyroid) and our "fats" is broken down to use as fuel for repair to happen. Follow?

The switch from hyper to hypo "commonly" happens in this case:

Postpartum thyroiditis (PPT), a temporary but

fairly common

thyroid disorder, occurs in five to ten percent of women during the year following childbirth.

PPT has several phases, the first of which is hyperthyroidism,

typically followed by hypothyroidism.

PPT is thought to be a variation of the autoimmune disorder known as Hashimoto’s thyroiditis."

http://www.holtorfmed.com/hyperthyroidism/

(Best not to mess with that. It resolves on its own in time (I know for fact, my daughter! The body needs TIME to rebalance...esp. following a pregnancy when the immune system undergoes huge changes so we don't "attack" a fetus.)

The resulting inflammation from Hashimoto's disease, also known as chronic ***lymphocytic*** thyroiditis, often leads to an underactive thyroid gland (hypothyroidism).

Hashimoto's disease is the most common cause of hypothyroidism in the United States.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/hashimotos-disease/basics/definition/con-20030293

"Lymphocytic" - too many lymphocytes - a type of white blood cells. They can be NK cells (Natural killer), T cell and/or B cells.

These are the problematic ones (!!!):

Following activation, B cells and T cells leave a lasting legacy of the antigens they have encountered, in the form of

memory cells. Wiki.

Which involves IL-15 (dangerous inflammatory cytokine) cytotoxic CD8 memory T cells.

Remember that 1st reaction to Bb...the rash, the Th2 response?

Well, our body does.

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Lyme lowers your immune system & it can do so in such subtle & unnerving ways.


One of my earlier symptoms, before going chronic, was burning of the scalp & subsequent hair shedding/loss.


It happened shortly after moving into a moldy house. I think it is due to fungi & perhaps mold growing on the surface of the skin & hair shafts. Frequent hair washing & avoiding the hat makes a difference.


I have so much mold/fungi in this house that when I close my washer it simply smells in a few hours. If I leave a wet towel out, it stinks in just a few hours (8-12 hrs). I did not see all this until I had a very small leak in the lower level, which increased the mold/fungi to intolerable levels. I can smell it on my within a few hours just by my nightly sweats too.

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