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surprise
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I found this particular paragraph quite interesting: (copied)

"To our utter disbelief, I came across an article reporting that the Gardasil vaccine can activate a latent Bartonella infection that was otherwise being suppressed by a properly functioning immune system prior to vaccination. We now believe our earliest suspicion was correct.

We found many stories about devastating health changes post-vaccine. These stories are eerily familiar to our daughter’s. The Gardasil vaccine is known to activate latent infections and viruses, such as Epstein Barr and Bartonella.

The Gardasil vaccine deregulates the immune system and that allows latent infections and viruses, which were kept in check pre-vaccine by a then properly functioning immune system, to activate post-vaccine. Now, there is evidence that the HPV vaccine is linked to the onset of autoimmune diseases."

From the article:
http://sanevax.org/gardasil-decision-will-always-regret/

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low positive Fry biofilm test, 2012.
Update 7/16- After extensive treatments,
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Lymetoo
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And Lyme, I'm sure.

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yanivnaced
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Vaccines are a usually a disaster for people with dormant systemic infections. My son started going downhill fast immediately after his Hep B vaccine last year. Now they're trying to push round 3 of Hep B on him. No way.
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I sent this to a friend of mine. Her 18 yr old daughter has been VERY ILL for more than a year. Turns out that she DID INDEED have the Gardisil vaccine. She has been VERY ill since then and unable to attend school. She's even on a feeding tube due to severe stomach pain when she eats.

[ 08-16-2014, 05:42 PM: Message edited by: Lymetoo ]

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YES!

Great post surprise!

The tetanus booster, (three "vaccine" boosters in that shot now), threw me down on the mat...

Went back to square zero after that vaccine.

My LL says there is specific natural protocols for different vaccines and he recommends starting a protocol before the vaccine and after.

Even for healthy non lyme folks.

I was asking regards to travel vaccines.

When I thought I would be well enough to travel one day. Sigh.

Not an option anymore.

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Thanks surprise for that info. You and I already knew it was best to avoid gardisil, thank God.

LT, SO very sorry to hear about your friend's daughter. I hope she recovers soon.

yanivnaced, hope your son bounces back. Good for you for pushing them back on the Hep B.

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Wow! I find that so interesting...prior to adopting our children from Ukraine we went to the International Travel clinic and had a series of vaccinations. I began to get sick just after that. I have always thought that had something to do with it.
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I never knew anything was 'wrong' with me until I had a tetanus and flu shot in Oct 1999. It threw me into a spiral sickness and the 8 months of testing. I must have been in remission or something until I had these shots.

I will never get those shots ever again.

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quote:
Originally posted by hadlyme:
I never knew anything was 'wrong' with me until I had a tetanus and flu shot in Oct 1999. It threw me into a spiral sickness and the 8 months of testing. I must have been in remission or something until I had these shots.

I will never get those shots ever again.

Those were the 2 shots I had as well that seemed to cause issues.
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I went down hill after a flu shot.
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Although looking back I probably had some mild symptoms of Lyme beforehand, a damn 'required' for college MMR shot is really what activated my Lyme and turned a functioning 19 year old me into a Lyme-Zombie.

I'm 30 now, and permanent remission from Lyme & co's still eludes me.

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THIS HAPPENED TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GARDASIL RUINED MY LIFE!

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Lyme activated in April 2010 by gardasil vaccine.
DX: Lyme,Babs,Myco,Bart 11/10
Treatment Started: 3/28/11

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This happened to me too.

In 2007-2008 I got HepB vaccine (series of 3 vaccines) and within few months my health rapidly started going down the hill .

I started developing neuro symptoms: profound fatigue, dizziness, numbness, losing control over my arms and legs, severe cognitive problems (brain would just go blank) etc.

In august 2008 I crushed not able to walk. Went to my doctor telling her that I diagnosed myself with MS. She said "let not jump to conclusion" and tested me for Lyme disease.

Lyme and Mycoplasma tests came back positive (QUEST lab)

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I had a booster shot for German Measles (Rubella) right after I had my first baby.

The next morning I woke up with such severe pain in my right wrist that I could hardly pick up my newborn.

This progressed to both wrists, both ankles and knees.
Then came back pain and migraines, legs aching (neuropathy) and fatigue.


Although the vaccine started these symptoms at age 31, I've had other Lyme symptoms since childhood.

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There are too many anecdotal reports to ignore. Vaccines do not CAUSE disease, rather they trigger dormant, sequestered infections to become active and disseminate.

There was a presentation couple of years back at a Lyme conference showing videos of perfectly happy, healthy baby pre-vaccine. Then videos of same baby right after MMR vaccine showing definite autism. Baby treated with abx on the hunch that it was Lyme and VOILA, we see videos of happy healthy baby again.

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Copied from this web site: http://www.betterhealthguy.com/klinghardt-conference-lyme-and-other-chronic-infections

Dr. Garth Nicolson on Mycoplasma

I've written an article in the past with Dr. Nicolson on Mycoplasma.

Chronic bacterial infections may progress to cancers or they make curable cancers fatal. Most people with RA have intracellular pathogens.

Mycoplasma fermentans is an airborne infection. 6% of commercial vaccinations are contaminated with the organism according to Dr. Nicolson. Given the number of vaccinations that people are exposed to, the odds of getting this infection may be quite high.

In autism, Mycoplasma pneumoniae is very high. In Lyme patients, Mycoplasma fermentans is the most prevalent.

- See more at: http://www.betterhealthguy.com/klinghardt-conference-lyme-and-other-chronic-infections#sthash.B86NDgPV.dpuf

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Thanks for the link to Klinghardt conference.

WOW. If you were dizzy before, reading that will make you a whirling dervish.

Cram-packed with info.

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Have you heard the latest? CDC whistleblower:

http://www.ageofautism.com

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low positive Fry biofilm test, 2012.
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doing okay!

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quote:
Originally posted by surprise:
Have you heard the latest? CDC whistleblower:

http://www.ageofautism.com

WOW.

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Sick since at least age 6, now 67. Decades of misdiagnosis. Numerous arthritic, neuro, psych, vision, cardiac symptoms. Been treating for 7 years, incl 8 mos on IV. Bart was missed so now treating that.

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lymie_in_md
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I've heard about!

The CDC's determines what is lyme in a patient based on certain bans. If the CDC is discredited for autism, why not discredit their determination on who has lyme ? Discredit them on their premise the lyme can't be chronic. Is their relationship with the IDSA without a financial interest ?

The time might be ripe to sue them for their disservice to the public.
There's lots more questions to ask...

B

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Judie
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I just read this post on LymeMD. It was interesting:

Are staunch supporters of the IDSA admitting they might have been wrong all along?

http://lymemd.blogspot.com/2014/08/are-staunch-supporters-of-idsa.html

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Great find Judie [Smile]

It turns out vaccines aren't the only issue with the CDC, this should all show up in mainstream media over the next few weeks. Diagnostic testing and vaccines appear to be in the cross hairs of the FDA (however, I'm not happy the FDA is doing the oversight, its like trading foxes to watch the chicken coop).

After you posted the link it got me thinking there is more out there so I started poking around:

http://www.change.org/p/the-us-senate-calling-for-a-congressional-investigation-of-the-cdc-idsa-and-aldf

http://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/health-wellness/2014/07/31/fda-plans-regulate-diagnostic-tests-now-exempt-from-oversight/7u7yqVsHaBjOTFW4y0RJwL/story.html

http://www.thesunchronicle.com/news/local_news/lawmakers-urge-federal-oversight-of-lyme-disease-tests/article_c9df8979-5a2d-5c41-b7bd-8a7010911be4.html

http://lymedisease.org/news/lyme_disease_views/congress-lyme-bill.html

I think we can celebrate a little. I believe the CDC is sending each of us a bottle of champagne. Not the cheap stuff either. Don't drink it all at once either, you'll mistake for a herx. [lol]

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lymie_in_md,

I must not be understanding those links very well.

A couple of them could be considered something to celebrate over... at least because the truth is being revealled...

...but I don't understand why it is good to have Richard Blumenthal backing a draft to regulate non-FDA approved lyme tests.

When he was attorney general of Connecticut he filed a conflicts of interest suit against the IDSA over their lyme treatment guidelines.

Sounds to me that he switched camps.

It might not be such a great thing to celebrate.

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Maybe I added the wrong link TNT ... to be frank about it. I think oversight shouldn't come from the FDA, Richard Blumenthal, it should be an independent organization and none of them are. An oversight organization would be funded by government but answerable to the people, but how do you keep it uncorrupted (term limits, no affiliations to big pharma or corrupting influences, etc...). An organization like that doesn't exist. So what it means like what always means, the rat's will scurry and regroup, right ?

The only thing we can celebrate is the CDC is who we thought they were and everyone's going to find about it. And maybe a few babies will be spared autism. Maybe we can celebrate people not marginalizing lyme patients as much. This maybe a good day for all of us, maybe we should hope a little more. The hope is in the media telling the whole population, look at how the CDC lied about vaccines and how they lied about testing for lyme. Maybe someday we'll see green ribbons supporting lyme research and boy scouts helping lymies across the street.

How about celebrating hope TNT, we'll fill our glasses courtesy of the CDC. [Smile]

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The tune from a tv commercial from years ago comes to mind, "Keep spreading the news..." ♪♫
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Recent mercola article:

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2014/09/02/vaccine-safety.aspx?e_cid=20140902Z1_DNL_art_1&utm_source=dnl&utm_medium=email&utm_content=art1&utm_campaign=20140902Z 1&et_cid=DM55003&et_rid=644838311

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