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GretaM
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Hi all,

I am having some body wide inflammation.

Been reading about NSAIDS and how they shut down certain pathways and actually increase inflammation, which then makes the person take another NSAID.

My doc way back last year suggested tumeric.

So last night I filled a bunch of capsules with fresh ground tumeric.

They are the bigger size of gelatin capsules.

I took 4 last night. Was desperate for some pain relief.

Not sure how much I should take.

Is it better to split the doses into 4 small doses a day, or two big ones?

Also any dangers with tumeric?

Increased bruising maybe?

Also how long should one notice a positive effect from the tumeric?

Ok thanks for your help.

Ps. I have taken curcumin before but didn't like it. My doc also reccomends tumeric, but I did not record the dose he told me and now I can't remember.

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GretaM
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Up.

Need some input from fellow TBD warriors.

Various websites, non TBD sites, say 2-3 grams per day.

That seems like an awful lot?

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I buy turmeric in a tincture which has directions on how much to take. It also comes in capsules. I've never made my own capsules.

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You might also look into Zyflamend.

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I don't think 2-3 grams of turmeric would create problems. I've easily put more than that in my curry. In Okinawa they drink turmeric tea daily, and coincidentally have some of the longest life spans and lowest incidence of Alzheimer's on the planet. It's quite safe to consume in large quantities unless you are on a blood-thinner like Coumadin.
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I use the turmeric caps, and I have to say that taking them has made all the difference in my hip pain. I'm now able to walk further than I have in years.

After reading about this, I made sure the turmeric I bought contained peperine (black pepperine), which different sites said would increase the efficacy.

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I still take curcumin. I tried turmeric once and it caused more stomach pain for me.

I take about 650mg of NOW curcumin every 6 hours during the day.... with food.

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GretaM
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Ok, thanks you guys.

I will try 2g and see if it is OK.

Glad it is working for everyone also. That is inspiring. [Smile]

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I think New Chapter makes a good one.

http://www.allstarhealth.com/de_p_ref/9063/pla9063/NEW_CHAPTER_Turmeric_Force.htm?utm_source=google&utm_medium=GPS&utm_campaign=9063&gclid=CjwKEAjwkf-gBRCd-b2m2aOo0EQSJABMeQDk960Nv h4w6pc4mdTMDtDyx5cA4hh74DD2wgJSv__XjhoCXK_w_wcB

I've read that tumeric is better absorbed when it's in a base containing oil. I've used it for a years with no issues but take more than the recommended amount.

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"Also any dangers with tumeric?"

I took a high quality, high potency one for 8 months. Unfortunately I didn't get any benefits.

I later ran my 23andme results through nutrahacker. I have two genes where I'm suppose to avoid curcumin (it can effect estrogen). I don't know if that has anything to do with why it didn't work for me.

Boswellia is suppose to also help with inflammation. I also tried it and didn't get the benefits I hoped for, but it may work for you.

Both curcumin and boswellia are worth trying.

Nettles, dandelion root, pantethine, pantothenic acid and fish oil seemed to work better for me for inflammation.

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Thanks Judie and Abxnomore. I weighed out the capsules I filled, and each capsule was 1 gram.

Boswelia is ringing some bells... Which brand is your favorite?

Abxnomore-i chased the pills with a handful of macadamia nuts. Thanks for the lipid tip.

Not sure if it is the placebo effect but tonight my muscles hurt a bit less.

Took 4g yesterday and 4g today.

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I take (when I REMEMBER!) 2 capsules up to 3 times per day when having pain. it does seem to help.

I take:
Nature's Plus Herbal Active Turmeric, 400mg/95% Curcumen standardized supplement.

when I asked my dr if I could up the dose from 1 cap he said, won't hurt, but to not take all doses at once. you must divide them to get the full benefit since it works in a way that taking more all at once only makes your body use what it needs and the rest is wasted- somehting like that

I can't remember the whole technical aspect of the conversation, sorry.

so I take 2 pills at a time and it does help me. I have never taked a ton at once, but want to try and see. I am jsut cheap right now and trying to stretch them out.

I have read that pure curcumin with big intensity is the way to go , but these seem to be pretty good at 95% for now. I will probably try better potency next time and compare.

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Pure Encapsulations Boswellia AKBA is a good product.
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Thanks Lisa for the tips about dividing the doses to smaller more frequent doses.

I often think after each appt with my LL I should have taken notes because I foregt the details of stuff.

Thanks abxnomore. I like the pure encapsulations brand too. Just taking their vitamin c now but really like it.

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Greta, my ND has me taking 2 "THERACURMIN" By Integrative Theraputics 2 times daily with 2 Salmon oil for pain, inflammation and ongoing battles with migraine. They told me I can take more than that if I need to and it won't hurt me if I take more. It really does help me and I think it's safe to say if it helps me it can help anyone! [Smile] Sometimes it will stop a headache when nothing else will but not always.
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Sorry..dosage is 1.8g per3 capsules of the Theracurmin and Salmon oil is 2g. per2 capsules.
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I read a great article on curcumin in a magazine called Good Health Lifestyles. It was at our health food store.

I think this is a video with the same info:

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/health/Fighting_Cancer_From_Spice_Rack_Dallas-Fort_Worth-125057714.html

It said that turmeric is only 2-4% curcumin. It's great for depression too!! I didn't know that!

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Nope... that one is about cancer. Same researcher.

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Greta, one thing I wanted to mention: the turmeric didn't help me overnight. It took awhile for me to see results.

Now, it's one supplement I wouldn't do without.

I've also started drinking turmeric tea, adding turmeric, ginger, a tiny bit of vanilla, honey, milk and water. Tastes a little like chai.

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http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/important-herbs/turmeric-root-curcuma-longa.html

TURMERIC ROOT (Curcuma longa)

Excerpt:

. . . SAFETY ISSUES: Due to mucin-reducing effects, do not use the concentrated extract (curcumin) or oil in high doses, especially if you have bile duct obstruction, gall stones, or stomach ulcers. Use turmeric as a spice freely. . . .

From this book - it & their website is a fabulous reference tool.

Though not at all about lyme, this is one of the best reference resources on my bookshelf that has wonderful chapters, many graciously available through their website.

Home: http://oneearthherbs.squarespace.com/

The ONE EARTH HERBAL SOURCEBOOK (Tillotson, et.al.)

He is a doctor of Ayurvedic Medicine; She a doctor of Oriental Medicine and Acupuncturist. The third co-author is a doctor of optometry.
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Be sure the source of the turmeric is excellent. Some has been found to contain lead.

Herbs and spices are also healthful as food. Different properties can go to work for us when we vary how we consume herbs / spices that have both medicinal and culinary properties.

For cooking, it's best to first, alone in pan "toast" spices (not so sure about herbs as in those from delicate leaves) in a skillet first (not Teflon and nor any kind of petroleum coated non-stick pan).

It's a particular technique that unlocks the flavors.

Some may sauté them in a little oil first before adding any other foods, too. So much more flavorful that way and easier to digest, too.

A good chef / delightful instructor to look up on YouTube and for her own website:

MADHUR JAFFREY . . . one good book: from curries to kebabs - recipes from the indian spice trail.
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A fabulous program, for anyone, anytime:

Globe Trekker DVD - Planet Food Spice Trails

http://www.globetrekkerstore.com/plfosptr.html

Excerpt:

. . . The word "spice" is derived from a French word meaning "special". Used in small quantities, there is little nutrition derived from them, but their mysticism has affected the world Indian spices profoundly.

In this remarkable journey, Planet Food travels the world to see how control of the spice trails, over the last five millennia, has made great cities and destroyed ancient civilisations.

Our guides travel from the Molucca Islands of Indonesia, the original home of cloves and nutmeg, to the Indian province of Kerala, with its native pepper and cardamom.

Leaving behind Sri Lanka’s sublime cinnamon, they cross the oceans on Arab dhows, Chinese treasure junks and Portuguese caravels, in search of the world’s flavour. . . .

[- more detail at link above. And scroll down for recipes explored in this program]
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