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supergirl
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Hello everyone!

I am working on having my amalgam fillings removed. I seem to have found a wonderful dentist. He is interested in my feedback as to what fillings are best for post lyme.

Does anyone know? He is planning on resin, but resin does contain metals.

thanks!

jacki

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Congrats !! Make sure he is a biological dentist. That way it will be done correctly and not cause MORE trouble and he will know which composite to use.

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supergirl
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I'm lucky to find an ethical dentist in Seattle. What composite is recommended?

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Catgirl
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I agree with Lymetoo. Your dentist may be ethical which is awesome, but he may know very little about what the biological dentists do to remove amalgams. I would say the odds of this are high, especially if he is not a biological dentist.

As far as fillings, there are tests you can take to determine the best composite for you.

http://iaomt.org/practical-guide-compatibility-testing-dental-materials/

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Thank you, Catgirl, for this link. I have never heard of this until now. I will look into the cost to see if I can afford this!

Many thanks and blessings!

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You're welcome, and congratulations on kicking lyme to the curb!

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Lymetoo
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I don't think an "ethical" dentist is the same as a biological dentist.

Make sure you are not taken in.

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I know! Unfortunately, to my horror, MOST dentists in Seattle are scammers! No joke! I may not be able to find a bio dentist who is also ethical and vice versa! The dentist I found is very supportive of me presenting him with what I need as a post lyme gal. He is also supportive of my desire to become pregnant.

[Smile] Catgirl..I also want to kick unethical dentists to the curb! [Smile] ha ha

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There is a blood test called the Clifford Dental Compatibility Test which can tell you what materials your body is/is not compatible with. I think it runs about $200.

To find biological dentists, check this link:

http://iaomt.org/find-a-doctor/search-for-dentist-physician/

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Judie
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I wish I knew all this before I went down this road:

I would see if the fillings are even out-gassing and if you high mercury/metal levels before taking them out. If they are old, they have leeched whatever they are going to by now. You can get your body tested for metals.

Also, whenever a tooth gets drilled, there's a chance it will crack. This happened to a friend when she got her metal out. The resin was put over a crack that wasn't visible to the naked eye and her tooth rotted out.

I was horribly allergic to the replacement material when I got my metal out. Pain for 6 years til I got safe material for me.

Absolutely NO pain with the metal ones.

The biological stuff isn't much better, it's made of epoxy resin and stuff used to construct houses. It's full of other chemicals.

I went through two biological dentists and neither helped.

I finally found one (non-biological) who knew about allergies and sent me to an MD for patch testing.

Gold is a good material if you're not allergic and can find an old school dentist who can shape it. I can only tolerate Fleck's cement and zirconium.

It's very individual what a person can tolerate.

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just an fyi on the Clifford test. It can tell you what your immune system will react to. I've had trouble with a dental cement that tested okay on the Clifford test, more of a nervous system reaction. It really wired me, still does somewhat.

The best testing I can think of is to make sure the material is okay on the Clifford testing, then get a sample of the material, bring it home and put it in your mouth a few minutes and see if you react.

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I really appreciate all of this vital information.! Good god, I just thought I was gonna have some fillings replaced and be okay! Who knew it would be so much investigating and more money!

Now that I am done complaining, I will accept what is and get the testing done.

THANK YOU!!!! Love to all of you!

(this should all be free of charge!!)

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quote:
Originally posted by Judie:
I wish I knew all this before I went down this road:

I would see if the fillings are even out-gassing and if you high mercury/metal levels before taking them out. If they are old, they have leeched whatever they are going to by now. You can get your body tested for metals.

Also, whenever a tooth gets drilled, there's a chance it will crack. This happened to a friend when she got her metal out. The resin was put over a crack that wasn't visible to the naked eye and her tooth rotted out.I

I was horribly allergic to the replacement material when I got my metal out. Pain for 6 years til I got safe material for me.

Absolutely NO pain with the metal ones.

The biological stuff isn't much better, it's made of epoxy resin and stuff used to construct houses. It's full of other chemicals.

I went through two biological dentists and neither helped.

I finally found one (non-biological) who knew about allergies and sent me to an MD for patch testing.

Gold is a good material if you're not allergic and can find an old school dentist who can shape it. I can only tolerate Fleck's cement and zirconium.

It's very individual what a person can tolerate.

Interesting Judie! I started another topic as I did not see this one. My new dentist seems to possibly be on the right track in telling me not to take out my amalgams and to think twice about replacing a lost broken filling with a resin material.
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Yes, I wish I listened to my usual dentist who said don't touch the fillings. Even my ND said not to touch them.

I didn't listen, followed what I hoped would help and wound up in a world of pain for 6 years.

Another thing to keep in mind is composite DOES NOT LAST. You need to have it replaced about every 10 years or sooner. One of mine cracked after a year and half.

It was when I talked to others who went through this that I heard more horror stories.

Here's another story on the topic. This is almost exactly what I went through:

http://www.ourlittleplace.com/jackimcs.html

"The only step we've taken that I truly regret is when I had all my "silver" (amalgam) fillings in my teeth replaced (22 fillings, involving 14 teeth). I do know of people that this has helped, but it hasn't helped me at all health-wise and has left me with over a year of constant pain in my teeth. I lost 1 tooth that had to be pulled, as well. The problem was that the dentist did not warn me about just how excruciating the pain could be before I had this done - they said it was similar to getting a filling - and that I'd probably have "a little sensitivity" afterwards. Was THAT ever an understatement! I had to take strong pain-killers daily for a solid two months after the removals, and that just barely kept me comfortable! The other problem is they talked me into having all 4 quadrants of my teeth done the same week - in 4 consecutive days. This was probably the biggest mistake we made. I had no problems with the exposures during the removals - they did follow the recommended protocol for removing the amalgams. However, the pain and problems with chewing I have suffered since then were just unbearable. For almost a year I was not able to chew anything even slightly crunchy - even pickles or onions - and absolutely nothing to eat or drink that was colder than room temperature! If something cold hit those teeth - it would almost make me say dirty words it would hurt so bad! I even had to brush my teeth with warm water only. I'm just now starting to be able to chew regularly again - nuts are still out, but it's getting better all the time. Also, the filling material they used on me was a "composite" and they're not lasting at all. I've already had to have 2 crowns and a bridge (involving 3 teeth) because the fillings started cracking the minute I was finally able to start chewing on those back teeth. I'm just putting this out there because I feel I wasn't given complete information before making the decision to go ahead with my removals. I now would tell people to try absolutely EVERY other way to reduce their toxic exposures first (cleaning their environment, switching to non-toxic products, etc.) before making the decision to have their fillings removed and replaced. And even then - only if you're still really disabled from your condition..."

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