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Green_Where_You_Water
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I had my husbands daughters friends mother tell my husband that her brother (yeah I know, the grapevine is whats making me skeptical of course) cured his Lyme disease with this ASEA water.


I basically wanted to immediately brush it off as my husbands attempt to convince me that we don't need to spend tons of money at an LLMD, but I am curious as to whether any of you have heard of or used this yourselves?


I really haven't found much info on it online, and haven't come across any threads on it here so am very much doubting it.


But nevertheless I am curious. Has anyone heard of or used ASEA water? Any results or thoughts?

You can google it or search it on amazon to find it.

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I tried it about 6 yrs ago when it first came out. Felt nothing and the taste was weird. It was like drinking mineral water.

Not impressed.

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No. Just "no" - no fancy water is going to cure lyme. Can't say why someone one down the gossip line said it changed his life - there could be mitigating circumstances, variables, bending of truth or stock in the company.

https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/asea-another-expensive-way-to-buy-water/

ASEA: Another Expensive Way to Buy Water

By Harriet Hall - August 7, 2012

. . . This is very creative, but it’s not science. It’s just an attempt to baffle you with bull****. . . .
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Sounds like it's well past time that your husband learn about the science of lyme. I tried to figure out a way for that not to sound condescending but my brain and energy are (word loss) a bit crispy around the edges so the point is

your husband does not understand lyme and what goes with it. I hope he is willing to learn.

Still, this is your body, your decision (as best budget can manage) yet it would be very nice if he would explore a bit with you so he's on your team.

Even if an ILADS educated LLMD or LL ND is not an option, you must go to science of lyme, how it works, etc. to address it.

As your very life does depend upon the education and expertise of the doctor you find . . . (or, again, if that is just not an option) or on the extent of your very thorough research . . .

(sorry, ran out of steam - just hope the point still comes across).
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Thanks guys that is what I figured, just curious if anyone actually had a good experience with the stuff.

Keebler, yeah he does mean well and is trying to be supportive, but your right, he really just doesn't get it at all yet!

I'm hoping if I just keep humoring him and proving him wrong with all of these waste of time suggestions by others he will just get it eventually and stop wasting both of our time.

In the meantime I am going to be going to an LLMD regardless or what other remedies he dreams up lol

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It can be a waste of time - and not really honest or fair to him, either - to just stroll through humoring - that's a passive way to avoid the issue.

Active education & communication (and that is fairness & honesty - learn & share together) between the two of you is where it's at - start with the two of you watching

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Glad you will go to a LLMD. Do you have a set date for the appointment yet?

In fairness to your husband, yes, here are other ways to approach . . . various ways to support - yet within certain boundaries and coming from truly LL researchers, etc.

As he surely cares and is smart but still has to field all the well meaning suggestions from others, he may be interested (as might you) in how to determine what is a viable option in part of your plan - or not.

In addition to keeping that appointment with the LLMD, my suggestion is to go ahead and start on LIVER SUPPORT

get a genetic test for celiac, still, regardless, now would be a good time to start going GLUTEN FREE as that seems to help during treatment to reduce inflammation - even if one is not celiac - but if you might be celiac, now's a good time to find out


& also get acquainted with the RIFE machine thread.


When considering herbal / nutritional / adjunct methods, because lyme is so very complex & unique, as are possible coinfections:

if at all possible - because each person & each case is different - it's best to consult with an ILADS-educated LL ND (lyme literate naturopathic doctor) (or similar) who has completed four years of post-graduate medical education in the field of herbal and nutritional medicine -

- and someone who is current with ILADS' research & presentations, past and present, and has completed the ILADS Physician Training Program (see: www.ilads.org )

so they really know all they can about the science of lyme . . . how lyme (& other TBD) act and what we can do about that in various ways.

Many LL NDs incorporate antibiotics (depending upon the licensing laws in their state). Some LLMDs and LL NDs have good working relationships.

When possible, it's great to have both a LLMD and LL ND and even better when they have a long-standing professional relationship.


http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/2/13964

How to find an ILADS-educated LL:

N.D. (Naturopathic Doctor);

L.Ac. (Acupuncturist);

D.Ay. (Doctor of Ayurvedic Medicine);

D.O.M. (Doctor of Oriental Medicine);

Herbal Safety considerations & reference books; etc.


Links to many articles and books by holistic-minded LL doctors of various degrees who all have this basic approach in common:

Understanding of the importance of addressing the infection(s) fully head-on with specific measures from all corners of medicine;

knowing which supplements have direct impact, which are only support and which are both.

You can compare and contrast many approaches with links to articles, books, methods . . .

BIO-PHOTON THERAPY links here, too.

BODY WORK methods / links (and why anyone who works on your spine MUST be LL to the degree they at least know to never suddenly twist neck or spine. Never. Ever. And that we should never be advised to do neck / head / shoulder stands.)


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=030792;p=0

LIVER & KIDNEY SUPPORT & and several HERXHEIMER support links, too.


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=117755;p=0

RIFE Machine - Reference LINKS
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Keebler, thanks for all of your information and advice!

We watched about half of under our skin together ( I watched the entire thing alone) but he turned it off because it was upsetting to him.

He got the point, although I do wish he watched the whole thing. I will try to get him to watch it again.

I think its all just overwhelming to him. Honestly I think he's having a harder time dealing with it than I am since I have become so sick and am unable to do a lot. Therefore he is having to do much more with the business we own together and things around the house.

I am hoping that the appointment with the LLMD will help him understand things more. And yes we have an appointment on October 20th...that was the soonest I could get in :/

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Oct 20th is really fast to get in to an LLMD. Some are booked up 6 months! The 20th will be here before you know it!

Healing thoughts headed your way [Smile]

P.S. Asea was like drinking pool water [Frown]

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quote:
Originally posted by A.G.:


P.S. Asea was like drinking pool water [Frown]

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That pretty much sums it up.

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I hope you can connect with your local lyme support group - maybe find some kind of volunteer networks, etc.

Call the information department for you local UNITED WAY and ask for some connections to agencies that may offer volunteer / errand support for those with

"an illness that creates a chronic neurological condition that includes problems with balance, energy and strength."

If you have some friends or family who can help, great. Bottom line: you need some help and although you may not be able to do all that you could before, you might be able to arrange, organize, to bring together a network so that this does not automatically fall to your husband.

Consider online shopping and local grocery delivery if possible.

If you are a member of a faith congregation or community group, reach out. Of course, you'll want to be very clear in how you present your situation -- be very sure of what you need and only get into the very basic reasons why.


"an illness that creates a chronic neurological condition that includes problems with balance, energy and strength."

If this does not work for you, construct your own explanation and just leave it at that regarding any medical talk. If pushed, you can add something like:

"I'm working with doctors to figure out details yet, for now, best to figure out how to get through the day and get some stuff done. And, wow, isn't the weather just ______ right now?"

Shift conversation to their hobbies, plans or just to get the task at hand accomplished and you go rest while they help out. Your new management job involves organizing & resting now.

Take care.
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Yeah it was about a month ago now when I was diagnosed with Lyme, it seems like yesterday so Im sure the 20th will come before I know it!

And yuck pool water doesn't sound fun [Frown] Im glad I asked before spending the money on it!

Keebler, thanks for all of the great advice! My husband and I are not generally the type of people to ask for or accept help and I don't have family in the area so it will be hard. But I know that for his sake I need to, so I am going to start looking into some of the options that you mentioned!

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I know nothing about ASEA, but I can tell u Kangen water has changed my life. I came out of remission last fall and went back on bicillin etc only to get toxic and worse off. Coinfections flaring. One month ago I tried Kangen. Initially felt great, then had terrible herx. But that has passed and I can see I'm getting my life back again. No other treatments

Kangen is different than alkaline water or alka seltzer good ex. It is electrically charged OH- it's the electron acceptance or donor reaction inside the body that changes things. It's a certified medical device in Japan. That's all Im gonna say

The water sells itself. If u can try the water for free for three weeks you'll see the difference with your own eyes

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