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improver
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I just started taking a single dose per day of doxy two days ago and some of my symptoms feel worse. I know that's a low dose but my doc said to start there since I'm sensitive to abx.

Also do chronic lyme sufferers ever get much better from doxy oris it not as eeffective for chronic infection?

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Yes, there can be a herxheimer reaction with even low dose but it would be less than with a larger dose. It is good to start slowly yet also before too long, work up to optimum dose.

Doxycyline, alone, though is not going to be adequate treatment so be sure you have a plan that will be strong enough. If you can't do a full & adequate Rx plan, it's vital to choose another approach that can be direct & strong - as well as also with vital support measures.

Whatever you do should mirror in effect Burranscano's protocol, even if other methods are used. The direct action plan must be specific.

However, totally separate from a herxheimer, is just the way doxy works in the body. It can cause dizziness, stomach upset, etc. just on its own.

There are many things you can do to offset both some of those unkind properties and also the herxheimer effect.

Often, the start is the hardest, that first week or two on any new Rx.

I'm thinking you already know about liver support, still, look over this so you have familiarity with the various options to have on hand.

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=030792;p=0

LIVER & KIDNEY SUPPORT & and several HERXHEIMER support links, too. HEARING PROTECTION in the Tinnitus thread, too.
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Doxycycline cautions:

1. Even autumn or winter sun, even early morning or late afternoon sun can burn. "Doxy burns" can be very rough.

avoid sunlight on your skin (even "bounced" sun - or through a window) even for weeks after stopping doxycycline if you go onto a different antibiotic.


2. Food with doxy is vital to protect stomach. But no dairy. Do not take with any multi minerals, either. The food minerals will lessen the medicine level and make it not as effective.

A substantial meal, in the middle with some food before and after the doxycycline really matters.

Protect stomach but do not take a PPI - proton pump inhibitor (they have some negative effects). take doxy with a substantial snack or meal - in the middle so you've got some food before and after

Avoiding gluten can help with the stomach, too.

3. keep torso as close to upright as possible for at least 30 minutes after doxycycline taken so as to help protect esophagus from the irritation it can cause if lying down.

Depending upon the angle of the particular chair, the most upright position of a recliner MIGHT be okay if you must rest your head or put your feet up, just don't slink down.

PROTECT EARS / HEARING - when taking certain Rx, the ears need protection. Ear plugs with a hair dryer . . . decibel rated muffs with a blender, vacuum, lawn equipment, etc.

Careful around loud music and best to avoid in the ear pods. There is a link in the Liver thread about the absolute importance of ear protection when on various kinds of Rx.
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As you say you are sensitive to antibiotics, with good support, that might be mitigated. Still, you might want to learn about this as a possible approach:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=117755;p=0

RIFE Machine - Reference LINKS
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Thanks Keebler. You have a wealth of knowledge. I don't know how you keep it all organized.

I have researched many aspects of holistic and conventional treatments and support over the years but since I backed off for the last year or two I am in a confused state and cannot sort through my info.

I do plan to do more than doxy and incorporate different types of treatment along with whatever abx I can tolerate. I do have an llmd who uses Dr B's guidelines and have an appointment with him in a few weeks.

As for liver and kidney support, how do feel about teas? I like to drink the teas like milk thistle, dandelion, burbur etc but not sure if they are high enough in dosage consumed.

How much can you get a rife machine for these days?

Also I have a portable infrared sauna, how do feel about using them?

Thanks

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Totally, I can herx off half a doxy.
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I am looking into rife as well. Probably getting one very soon. I think the cheapest is probably around 500. Not sure though.
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