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ejan
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I want to take chlorella to detox. I know it binds to harmful metals and toxins in your body, but I am wondering if it also binds to all the "good stuff" that I am taking too. I would hate for Chlorella to eliminate the effects of the Abs, and all the herbs and various supplements in my system.
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I don't believe it does. My LLMD is very high on chlorella and said I can take in the morning when I would take my antibiotics.
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It can move metals around in low doseage but is an excellent binder..i would space it out from supplements. .or alternate days

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Chlorella binds to toxins and bacterial die-off. It won't dampen the effects of Abx or supplementals to Lyme treatment.

Chlorella also has other benefits as well.
- improves glutathione levels
- contains methyl-coblolamine which helps repair the nervous system and damaged nuerons
- helps restore healthy gut flora
- contains alpha & gamma lineolic acids that help increase the intake of essential fatty acids.


There are other detox methods as well -

http://www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html

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One of the downsides of chlorella is that it has LPS. LPS triggers an immune response and thus chronic inflammation in the intestine. Something you may not want to have when you are trying to heal your gut.
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Studies have shown that Chlorella actually contains a peptide (Chlorella-11 peptide) that inhibits LPS and prevents inflammatory progression.

One such study -
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20943052

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I find chlorella to be a good choice before and after a fish meal, though nowadays I use other binders when fish is not on the menu!
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quote:
Originally posted by S13:
One of the downsides of chlorella is that it has LPS. LPS triggers an immune response and thus chronic inflammation in the intestine. Something you may not want to have when you are trying to heal your gut.

Do you have any more information on this? I have not heard of this sort of side effect...esp since many of us have gut issues it might be important.
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quote:
Originally posted by shehasmoxy:
quote:
Originally posted by S13:
One of the downsides of chlorella is that it has LPS. LPS triggers an immune response and thus chronic inflammation in the intestine. Something you may not want to have when you are trying to heal your gut.

Do you have any more information on this? I have not heard of this sort of side effect...esp since many of us have gut issues it might be important.
S13 posted some misinformation. There are several studies - a couple on PubMed (see link above) - showing that Chlorella contains a peptide that is an LPS inhibitor.

It has been shown to lower LPS levels in the blood while repairing the digestive tract, directly offsetting the stress of bacterial imbalance in the digestive tract. Additionally Chlorella has also been shown to help increase friendly gut bacteria.

Chlorella also helps lower high leptin levels, prevent excess new fat cells, and can help lower blood sugar and cholesterol.

Too much fat causes LPS levels to rise. So do high leptin and blood sugar levels. So do antibiotics.

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Thanks everyone!
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http://www.naturalnews.com/specialreports/superfoods.pdf

Super Foods: Chlorella & Spirulina

By Mike Adams - Natural News 35 pages


http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=131555;p=0#000000

Topic: Chlorella as a binder? When to take?


one of several posts from this thread, excerpt:

Brussels replied in this thread - on April 14, 2015:

Yes, chlorella is a complete plant (in dry form), so it is far from single chemicals (like minerals, vitamins, or alpha lipoic acid for example), or from non-food supplements (like clay, zeolites, for example).

In my view then, it is more to be seen as food than as a supplement.

The same way spinach or lettuce won't bind to your magnesium, your vitamins, your antibiotic, chlorella won't bind to these stuff, as it NEEDS many of the things we need for its own survival in nature. So chlorella does contain lots of minerals, aminoacids etc.

It will though bind with many heavy metals! It is in research.

I love chlorella, and I take it anytime. Really anytime.

[End Brussels' post]
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PubMed Search of Medical Literature:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=chlorella

Chlorella - 5062 abstracts

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Spirulina

Spirulina - 1538 abstracts
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http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=030792;p=0

LIVER & KIDNEY SUPPORT & and several HERXHEIMER support links, too.
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quote:
Originally posted by Blymey919:
quote:
Originally posted by shehasmoxy:
quote:
Originally posted by S13:
One of the downsides of chlorella is that it has LPS. LPS triggers an immune response and thus chronic inflammation in the intestine. Something you may not want to have when you are trying to heal your gut.

Do you have any more information on this? I have not heard of this sort of side effect...esp since many of us have gut issues it might be important.
S13 posted some misinformation. There are several studies - a couple on PubMed (see link above) - showing that Chlorella contains a peptide that is an LPS inhibitor.

It has been shown to lower LPS levels in the blood while repairing the digestive tract, directly offsetting the stress of bacterial imbalance in the digestive tract. Additionally Chlorella has also been shown to help increase friendly gut bacteria.

Chlorella also helps lower high leptin levels, prevent excess new fat cells, and can help lower blood sugar and cholesterol.

Too much fat causes LPS levels to rise. So do high leptin and blood sugar levels. So do antibiotics.

Dont believe all the studies you read. Most of them are done on healthy people or with circumstances that do not apply to chronically ill people.
Chlorella clearly makes my gut more inflamed, so there you have it. High doses do seem to lessen this response somewhat, so maybe thats the effect of the LPS inhibitor?
Also feeding the good flora? Yeah right, ive read that before with Inulin/FOS. But its obviously for me that those things worsen my dysbiosis. All FODMAPS and fermentable fibers do. Again, if you do a study and only use relative healthy people than yes, you might find that things like FOS and chlorella increase the levels of good bacteria. But those studies leave out the group of people who deal with severe dysbiosis and immune dysregulation.

And we need to consider that even good bacteria can do harm if they are in the wrong location, so is upregulating good bacteria always a good thing?? Take SIBO for example.

Just because studies say all these supplements are great for health doesnt mean they work for everyone. For some people they just make things worse. "One man's bread is another man's poison"

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I find it funny people saying herbs or algae have this OR that causing this or that, while each plant has hundreds, if not THOUSANDS of chemicals!!!

I mean, thousands of chemicals! in one plant !!

Anyone who read Buhner books would know that a herb is NOT a chemical, but MUCH MORE complex.

It is virtually impossible to point out what a chemical does IN VIVO, because it never comes alone, and interaction between chemicals is the NORM, not the exception.

And to complicate the problems, it depends on where it grows, in which conditions. All make a plant chemical concentration vary.

If chlorella is bad for some (I agree), it is excellent for others.

For me, this is herb (or algae, more precisely) number 1, for the last 10 years AT LEAST.

I wouldn't have got out of lyme without chlorella, I am pretty sure of it. I ingested literally loads of it, since the first time I put chlorella in my mouth during lyme treatment.

Chlorella is the only thing I take for so long, so often. My gut was a wreck, it has never been wonderful, but without chlorella, I just can't stand pains that go up to the stomach.

My gut is about 10 times worse without chlorella.
With chlorella, I usually feel almost normal.

Even for candida, not having chlorella means to me, not being able to put candida in check again.

All inflammation goes down, visibly, my mind gets clear, gut functions much better.

I simply love chlorella.

I used at least 3 species of chlorella, organic mostly, and all worked well. At the moment I'm writing, I'm chewing my daily chlorella tabs.

the easiest to digest is chlorella vulgaris. Today I use the pirenoidosa, because it's the most common found in the market. But as a beginner, I preferred vulgaris.

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I read on Klinghardt's site (I think it's okay to use his name since I am referring to his work published on his website?) that one should take chlorella like this:

FIrst take chlorella.
Wait 30 minutes.
Take cilantro or eat a meal exactly 30 minutes after the chlorella dose.

His logic is that the meal or cilantro will cause bile to be released in the part of the gut just where the chlorella is, enabling the chlorella to bind with toxins in the bile.

He also says you can take it at bedtime, with food or without, if I understand correctly.

http://www.klinghardtacademy.com/images/stories/neurotoxin/NeurotoxinProtocol_Jan06.pdf

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Brussels
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Anyone starting with chlorella will probably have enough trouble with it alone.

That is what I keep reading here in the forum for the last 10 years.

Dr. K. does NOT recommend cilantro at first, only after about 6 months on great doses of chlorella.

Cilantro WILL mobilize. It goes intracellular.

Chlorella is a binder, not a mobilizer.

It will clean the matrix (extracellular) and the inside wall of organs.

It is pretty rough at start, in my experience. It took me months to get used to the EASIEST digestible 'chl. vulgaris'.

Chlorella alone will mobilize metals just because it stirs them before they bind to chlorella. You may feel a lot funny after 15 min of ingestion. Many symptoms arise, some good, some bad, but many feel something less than 30 minutes after ingestion.

Some people will react violently, throwing up, diarrhea, extreme reactions.

If you add cilantro tincture at start, or Far infrared sauna, you'll make the job for your body much harder. MUCH harder.


I've been more than a DECADE on chlorella, and I still have trouble with mobilizers.

Now I'm TRYING to take fulvic acids ONCE MORE, and it is still VERY ROUGH.


So if you are sensitive, like my case, start only with chlorella.

I would even start with clay, to help binding toxins from the gut, then move to charcoal for about 10 days maximum, then move to chlorella and bear garlic tincture (to help bind metals through the kidneys).

Chlorella & bear garlic tincture: these are the main binders dr K uses. For decades, literally. I love both, and use these for about a decade.


Chlorella will bind to die off toxins, and many neurotoxins too. It's a God given plant for lyme sufferers.

I take chlorella anytime. The best time is 30 minutes before a meal. But I take it in bed, at breakfast, during lunch, after lunch, any time really.

If I have any inflammation anywhere, I think chlorella. It doesn't lower all inflammation, but great part of it, in my experience.

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