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ohioperson22
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Hello all,

Whether you are on the traditional medicine/IDSA side, or the ILADS side, on thing is clear: you need high-dose IV ceftriaxone (Rocephin) to get rid of serious lyme complications (lyme carditis associated with 3rd degree AV block, and lyme meningoencephalitis)

Even looking at the inadequate "mamby-pamby" CDC guidelines for lyme, all the nonsense about 10 days doxy 100 mg BID goes away when you get to the bit about lyme carditis (minimum 4 weeks IV Rocephin, then oral). So even they know the difference.


This got me thinking: when it's life-threatening, ALL the experts, on either side, recognize the need for 2 grams of ceftriaxone daily.

In perhaps an uninformed way, this can be interpreted as that that (IV ceftriaxone) is the ONLY thing that actually TREATS lyme (i.e. killing enough bugs for disease remission or even cure).

Considering the MIC for ceftriaxone is only 0.02, and then cefixime is like 0.2, that means 2 grams of ceftriaxone is like 20 grams (50 pills of 400 mg Suprax). I'm taking just one a day!

What?


Like, from a personal perspective, if I had the precursors to the serious full-blown lyme emergencies, I sure as heck hope my treatment is actually doing something.

So that's a bit of a rant. Thanks for reading.

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Q: Is IV Ceftriaxone the only thing that works for SERIOUS lyme complications?

No. No single Rx is adequate.
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http://www.lymenet.org/BurrGuide200810.pdf

Advanced Topics in Lyme Disease (Diagnostic Hints and Treatment Guidelines for Lyme and Other Tick Borne Illnesses

Dr. Burrascano's Treatment Guidelines (2008) - 37 pages

Page 27 - SUPPORTIVE THERAPY & CERTAIN ABSOLUTE RULES for self-care
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didn't cure me and I took a YEAR of the jazz... worst year I had too... Shivers....
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And if you don't take a cyst buster along with Rocephin you could be worse off than when you began. It's not a panacea.

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Jordana
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Ceftriaxone does not kill Lyme. It encourages the cyst form and lowers inflammation, and the patient feels much better.

The only thing that kills Lyme is combination therapy.

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ohioperson22
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Actually, Rocephin does cure lyme carditis. It usually resolves complete AV block within 3 days to a week, and minor conduction disturbances within six weeks.

One patient described in a case study presented with lyme, developed biventricular failure and endocarditis attributed to a severe herxeimer reaction, was treated with methylprednisolone and ceftriaxone, and regained a normal ejection fraction and conduction.


Because IV Rocephin is used for the lyme emergencies, it must be the best, fastest treatment. And its success rate is very very good.

Outpatient lyme doctors don't seem to be the type of people that work in CCUs in hospitals and treat lyme emergencies.

By the way, the only (I think the only) study that described cyst formation from antibiotics was published in a second-rate medical journal, and it was absolutely berated, roasted, and crucified on another lyme forum. And it was noted the authors had financial/commercial interests.

[ 06-10-2016, 05:13 PM: Message edited by: ohioperson22 ]

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quote:
Originally posted by Keebler:
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http://www.lymenet.org/BurrGuide200810.pdf

Advanced Topics in Lyme Disease (Diagnostic Hints and Treatment Guidelines for Lyme and Other Tick Borne Illnesses

Dr. Burrascano's Treatment Guidelines (2008) - 37 pages

Page 27 - SUPPORTIVE THERAPY & CERTAIN ABSOLUTE RULES for self-care
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If page 15 contains an egregious error, how certain can I be that what is printed on page 27 (or any other page) is not misinformation, a typo, or just plain backwards?
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On 5th week pulsing 2g ...i think it was when i added alinia ...whoa...

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