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Is anyone always hungry? I know weight gain or loss is common with Lyme and cos, and I have gained weight. But I'm always hungry and never satisfied.

I have hormone problems. I've had that checked recently.

I have plenty of fiber and drink lots of water. Has anyone had success curbing hunger? If so, how?

What could be causing this?

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I gained about 30 pounds this year and I just decided that was one thing I really had to stop worrying about. When you're sick your metabolism goes crazy and there's just no telling what you're going to get.

But also -- if your body is asking for food I think you should give it the food. Appetite is a good sign.

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Eating foods high in histamine can cause weight gain .. and also if you eat a lot of oxalates in foods, and then STOP eating them... you will get very hungry as your body "dumps" the oxalates.

Then there's insulin resistance to consider. It can keep you from burning fat and losing weight.

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Do you eat a lot of carbs? Maybe try adding in more protein and less carbs?

For me, it was due to candida. I was always hungry and kept gaining weight no matter how much I exercised.

Dr said candida and I thought no way bc I had been so careful.

Surprise!! Candida it was / is.

My hormones are also off. I went on the candida diet and the always feeling hungry has subsided.

I hope you are able to find answers, I know what an unpleasant feeling that is.

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OH yes... the lovely Candida. Yep.

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Yes, I eat tons of carbs. I can do gluten and casein free and have done it for a while. I don't have the willpower for candida free, too. And I try all or nothing. I decided today I would try to lessen the carbs. Hopefully that will help?
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It kind of drives me a little nuts to just see "carbs" tossed about as the definition can range from basically all sugar junk food to divine nourishment.

It's good to eat a lot of carbs of bright, rich and deep color, so to speak - when COMPLEX, whole foods from the plant kingdom - not if it's been through some kind of machine and stuffed into a package.

Along with all your vegetables (maybe with a few low sugar dark berries after a meal) . . . Good proteins and good fats also important with each meal and snack for glucose stability.

Be sure you get a snack 2-3 x a day. Again, from the planet earth, not an industrial glob supply.

If you need to be introduced to more kinds of vegetables, make a date with a produce manager of a good market.

Hummus and just about any kind of veggie is an excellent snack, anytime of the day. Two Brazil nuts for a "first" breakfast is a also a good way to set up your day (and the get the selenium you need).

Hummus has it all: complex carb, protein & fat (alternate the kinds of oils you use and you can also vary the seasonings).
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If it is candida, can it come under more control by eating less of the grain-type carbs? I honestly don't think I can completely cut them out.
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Starches will help grow yeast. Candida loves starches .. white foods, grains, etc.

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Of all the non-gluten grain like foods, wild rice and quinoa (but get the red kind with more fiber to it) might be easier to manage if never alone and never first - but just a little bit along with your protein, fat and vegetables.

Be sure you get enough protein with each meal and each snack.

A variety of good oils can help calm appetite. I really like Avocado oil - added not in cooking but when serving. Most oils are best that way, not heated.

A spoon of Hemp oil in between meals can help, too, in may ways. Very nutritious.

Be sure to pull flavors from onions, garlic, culinary herbs and spices from around the world. This helps with satiety and enjoyment.

If you need something sweet, green tea and stevia can help. But best if the tea is not from at a tea bag as often, there are "natural flavors" that can actually increase appetite (and agitation) as they are usually neuro-excitatory in nature.
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http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/3/32152#000000

GREEN TEA - Links Set


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and very refreshing for summer - make it condensed and then you don't have to cool down a whole lot of hot water in the fridge.
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Cocoa powder, nut oil, a little stevia. Mix in a cute tiny glass and use a fancy tiny spoon. I have a miniature pitcher - the kind used for maple syrup in restaurants. That is perfect. And a tiny silver spoon such as used in spice kits from India.

Carob root powder also works, together with cocoa or by itself (with the oil and stevia). And there are some key nutrients in that, also helps with endotoxin "capture" to send along the way down the lower GI tract.

Nut Butters can also be mixed in - hazelnut butter is perfect as the consistency is easiest but it's really hard to find now.

Be very careful that all oils, all nut products are FRESH. Do NOT buy "roasted" or "toasted" nuts / nut butter. Trans fats that can damage arteries occur when oils get too warm / old.
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Thank you so much, Keebler. You rock!
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Appetite tamers:

Chlorella powder in a half glass of water serves as food (because it is) . . .

Nutritional yeast with sea salt in water can be tasty and satisfying anytime before late afternoon (too energizing for later than that).

Sprinkle on frozen peas and add hemp / avocado oil/ olive oil for a perfect summer snack, too. You could add some chili powder.

Also a good "instant" breakfast. Add a little chicken to make it more substantial.


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Brewers Yeast / Nutritional Yeast (that bright yellow flakey good stuff)
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SLEEP is also incredibly vital to weight management for so many reasons. Read Arianna Huffington's work on this topic.

Adrenal support as well:

http://flash.lymenet.org/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/1/89790

Topic: NATURAL SLEEP & ADRENAL SUPPORT
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Going back to TuTu's note about histamines and oxalates, there are many good "hits" with Google searches for each term.

And, oops, if oxalates are an issue for you, cocoa powder would be off the list -- though carob may have redeeming properties since it helps move out endotoxins (though check it on the oxalate lists, too).

Whatever you have to "give up" you can still find other foods that will delight. Really.

Inflammation from potential irritants that can be a reason for weight gain.

Other factors of irritation and inflammation go with lyme as well. Be sure your liver support is good and basic, always. Dandelion tea, milk thistle are the basics.
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Thank you. Great info, Keebler.

Can candida be reduced through reducing grains rather than eradicating them?

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I think so. I kept passing out due to lack of enough carbs to hold over the veggies. Another poster here expressed the same thing about needing some grains as veggies tend to "wear off" sooner without them, even with protein and fats on board.

The non-gluten grains can hold food longer in body for slower digestion and help for glucose stability. Be sure to study their nutrient composition and their glycemic index. Generally, the dark colors are best. And something like 1/4 cup cooked to 2 cups of veggies.

Some others also said they could have a small amount of low glycemic fruits. I think they hold nutrients not in veggies that are very valuable as antioxidants.

There are some ranges of opinion on candida diets. And each person may have variation in their nutrient / composition needs.

It may be that if candida is way out of control, a stricter diet is best for a few weeks to get it under control.

Read all you can from the key books / articles on the topic. And get the few good books on diet for both candida and (at least) two lyme diets.

You might want to take a class in Mediterranean cooking, too.

Then you'll have a range of opinions to consider as you determine what works best for you glucose stability.

But do not skip meals. That boomerangs. There is no need for that with a diet that provides necessary nutrients & flavor from the three food groups and variety of fiber sources.

Olive Leaf extract was very good for me, too, to really clobber candida (even when taking antibiotics).
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Some brands are not very good for this. A very specific brand of Olive Leaf extract (or a brand that uses the same methods of growing, harvesting, processing) - Seagate. Detail:

http://flash.lymenet.org/scripts/ultimatebb.cgi/topic/1/115457?#000000

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Thanks again, Keebler. I have the olive leaf from Seagate. I think you or Lymetoo recommended Seagate to me.
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